creekdipper

Did it seem to anyone else like Chelsea was only half-heartedly making a pitch to win and that she made almost as much effort to throw the win to Kim? It's like she felt that she was only there because of Kim (which she said) and therefore owed it to Kim to support her cause as much as possible.

When Jonas asked Chelsea to describe her biggest move in the game (outside of going along with Kim), she took the opportunity to take the heat off Kim for Kat's departure. Likewise, she continually expressed admiration for Kim's game and how Kim had connected with each player (vs. her own "cold-hearted" game).

Also, it was pretty disconcerting to see the last few tribals totally revolving around Kim. It's as though only her vote counted even when they still had five left (a 3-1 vote for anyone would have made Kim's vote irrelevant). Even Jeff kept referring to the person(s) Kim wanted to take with her (as though it were a foregone conclusion that Kim would be in the finals), and talked about all of the people that Kim had sent to the jury (maybe it wasn't a big secret that Kim was masterminding everything by that point but it still was a reminder to everyone).

I also wish Jeff would quit giving advice during challenges. Didn't like him telling Alicia that she was helping other contestants by untying their bags and telling Sab & Christie that they "had no chance" in the challenge even though both Kim & Alicia ended up having to go back to check their numbers...meaning that it was possible that either of Sab or Christie MIGHT have been able to catch up and luck out of their first attempt at the combination. One can argue that they should just ignore him and keep going, but it still doesn't seem fair for him to do that.

I am amazed that neither Kim's nor Christina's final stack of bowls didn't fall over during the last challenge.

davidh777

Yeah, not a tense finale, but at least both challenges were very close. I was pretty sure that Kim had it in the bag once she won the final immunity, but was prepared to be outraged when Sabrina was getting votes. She was pathetic in the challenges and apparently did nothing around camp as well. At least she was able to beat the "angry black woman" stereotype of this show.

Really impressed with the way Kim swept through the challenges, but I guess she *had* taken out the physical competition by that time. She truly had one of the best runs for any contestant. I happened to rewatch the scene when she was convincing Alicia to vote out her ally Tarzan, and it was masterful. She was also one of the few likable characters this season.

Alicia looked horrific with her first cleanup, and Kat looked terrible (too much eye makeup) after her first one. I echo the pleasant surprise at her jury speech, though.

I know Penner is a little overexposed, but I really liked him in his second run (he and Eliza really repaired their images that season) and would much prefer him to Colton. I'd be psyched for Skupin, too, and black Russell would be good. Too bad about Courtney, though.

I thought this was strange as well.

Fist of Doom

There are men on this planet that don't go for Asian women? Consider my mind blown.


She actually looked better in her no-makeup Survivor mode. Sad that she needs another heart surgery.

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr.

He's not wrong.

cdollaz

Worst season ever. The best part was when Kat, maybe the dumbest twat ever on the show, was blindsided.

beyond

Predictable but still entertaining. Agree with creekdipper that Chelsea's final speech was basically a gigantic pitch for Kim. It's funny how these Final 3 votes are always split between two people, although I'm surprised it was Kim and Sabrina. Not that Chelsea did much, but Sabrina (somehow) did even less. Troyzan appeared pretty bitter, even at the reunion ("Outwitted and outdumbed!").

Here's Jeff take on this season:

Glad they're finally leaving Samoa for next season. What was this, the 5th season they filmed there? I've seen a lot of people hoping it's not Penner returning, but I really enjoyed him in both incarnations. Would be great to have Mike Skupin back...on the fence about everyone else. I read somewhere that the timing doesn't work out with Colton making an appearance. If they've already filmed S25, then he has put on a lot of weight (and then some) for this finale.

Red Dog

Boring finale. Was hoping for more Kat stupidity in the final tribal.

Alicia cleans up pretty well.

uteotw

Yup. Worst season I've ever watched. Fast-forwarded through much of the 2 hours and it was still a waste of time. Totally agree they need to go back to just regular folks and not caricatures.

When Jonas said Chelsea was voted the hottest, did Kim mutter something like "Oh thanks"?

Also I really wish they'd take the million-dollar winner out of the $100,000 running, but oh well.

Timber

Yeah, she made some catty coment.

Red Dog

It usually takes me about an hour to watch the 2-hours. The first 10 minutes is pure waste between the season recap and commercials. Always FF through the fallen heroes part.

Finisher

Ditto. Just did not give a shit about any of these people.

Still not sure why Alicia handed the game to Kim at final 6.

Even the jury was boring and not bitter/hostile.

Eddie W

Thank GOD. I was afraid after seeing the previews for next season that he would be one of the three & I'd have to skip next season. I fear for the safety of my TV screen if I ever have to see his stupid smug face on it ever again.

DRG

Kim definitely deserved the win, but watching the "I Heart Kim" lovefest continue into the final tribal council killed any sort of suspense about the outcome and frankly just wasn't very fun to watch. What made it worse is that the few people who did seem to harbor some resentment toward the final three expressed themselves in pathetic ways... Troyzan went with a lame cryptic threat, Leif (and I think someone else) went the self-aggrandizing "Explain in details your reasoning/strategy for voting me out" route (an approach which might have made sense coming from Kat or Alicia, not so much from someone who was clearly just fodder in Kim's path).

The reunion was probably the worst one since the time Rosie O'Donnell hosted it. Kim was a bore in the reunion. Jeff went soft on Tarzan, missing the obvious: "What do your patients/colleagues think after seeing you wearing Kat's panties on your head?" They spent a substantial chunk of time trying (and failing) to redeem that spoiled, insincere jackass Colton. (But at the same time, what else did they have to work with?) They really need to shake this show up somehow, and not just with lame gimmicks.

beyond

Hahah! I hear that.

Reality Blurred seems to think it will be:

Goldberg74

I can live with that.

Double_Oh_7

One of those has already been given a "second chance" as a returning favorite in Micronesia.

TwineTime

aktick

Didn't even waste my time watching this. Like Red Dog, I usually just FF through most of it, but couldn't even bring myself to do that. Looked online for the results afterwards. Sounds like I made the right choice.

If next season ends up being so predictable and full of players that are just along for the ride, I'm probably going to be done with the show after (starting out) watching every season so far. Just isn't enjoyable to me anymore.

TomOpus

'Survivor' finale lowest-rated ever

Howie2000

I am not sure where the sudden anger towards predictable boots come from.

With the exception of about 6 or 7 of the 24 seasons most seasons are Pagonging's like this. The seasons like Pearl Islands and Amazon will always be the anomoly.

I think the mistake was the Producers telegraphing Kim's win in the editing so obviously when they clearly had another angle to work with. Alicia's relationship with Kat,Tarzan and Christina put her in a position where she should have made the f3 but she got totally played by Kim not just at f6 but she made a huge mistake at F7 in taking out Kat.

Howie2000

Let's last night you had a winner who one could easily describe as an every day normal person and was an actual fan of the show who was not a recruit. The entire f3 were altogether good likeable nice girls and you had the lowest rated finale and the lowest rated season ever and fans complaining the show got "boring" when the unlikeable a hole Colton left.


Nicuaraga which was full of cartoon charecters and big personalities with the male version of Kat as the winner and the grumpy old curmudgeon Jane wins the fan favorite award and is the highest rated out of the last 5 or 6 seasons.




I wonder what route casting will continue to go?

windom

Haven't the next two seasons already been filmed? Who knows if CBS will renew it past spring 2013 if the rating keep following the current trend. If JP's talk show is a success, he may not want to return either.

Timber

Well the winner has already gotten pushed from the Early Show to The Talk. That can't be a good sign.

madcougar

It's been pretty well established in this forum that Survivor will last forever, even after Probost leaves.

Howie2000

This season was the all time low for the series and it probably still made CBS tens of millions and would still be highly profitable even if it dropped from a 2.9 to a 1.9.