Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12 - Page 5

pinata242 · 04-30-12, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by superfro

Yes, and it was an awesome shot. It's when they were setting up camp at the top of the mountain and he was up on a ridge in the background. It was an awesome effect to make him look massive, but with how they used the perspective he didn't look fake or CGI at all.

Nice, I missed this myself both times I watched it. I love my job to be able to drop everything just for this

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SiberianLlama · 04-30-12, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by superfro

Yes, and it was an awesome shot. It's when they were setting up camp at the top of the mountain and he was up on a ridge in the background. It was an awesome effect to make him look massive, but with how they used the perspective he didn't look fake or CGI at all.

Awesome! Thank you to you and pinata242 for pointing Ghost out.

superdeluxe · 04-30-12, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pinata242

Nice, I missed this myself both times I watched it. I love my job to be able to drop everything just for this

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Ghost taking a overwatch position over the camp. Love it.

Thrush · 04-30-12, 03:55 PM

Didnt the Tulley's forces account for a substantial portion of Renly's army? Without them how many of Renly's men does Stannis now have?

musick · 04-30-12, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pinata242

Nice, I missed this myself both times I watched it. I love my job to be able to drop everything just for this

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very cool ... I missed that as well

pinata242 · 04-30-12, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrush

Didnt the Tulley's forces account for a substantial portion of Renly's army? Without them how many of Renly's men does Stannis now have?

No, the Tullys are with Robb Stark since they're Stark bannermen and Catelyn (Tully) Stark is mother to the King in the North.

You might be thinking of the Tyrells (Margaery and Loras). Stannis would still have a sizable portion of Renlys men. Many thousands, though not the full 100k Renly was boasting obviously.

superdeluxe · 04-30-12, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrush

Didnt the Tulley's forces account for a substantial portion of Renly's army? Without them how many of Renly's men does Stannis now have?

I don't believe so, I believe they had some Tyrell men/Baratheon banner men, but I am sure someone can fill in the gaps.

The Tyrell men went home.

Thrush · 04-30-12, 04:37 PM

Yeah I meant the Tyrells

flashburn · 04-30-12, 04:46 PM

Can someone explain the whole "red god" and the three debts thing to me? Not sure if it just wasn't explained well, or if it was that guys accent, but that whole thing confused me.

musick · 04-30-12, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Can someone explain the whole "red god" and the three debts thing to me? Not sure if it just wasn't explained well, or if it was that guys accent, but that whole thing confused me.

Jaquen owed Arya 3 deaths for saving his life and those of his two fellow prisoners

Ephemeral_Life · 04-30-12, 05:49 PM

The Red God is the same god who gave Melisandre the queefs.

pinata242 · 04-30-12, 05:57 PM

Jaqen is basically playing Final Destination but changing the targets to satisfy Death.

flashburn · 04-30-12, 06:00 PM

Oh okay, I guess this was just part of the whole religions thing that is bound to get a bit confusing. Is it three deaths because Arya saved three of their lives?

Tommy Ceez · 04-30-12, 06:11 PM

aktick · 04-30-12, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral_Life

The Red God is the same god who gave Melisandre the queefs.

I thought that was the god of light or something?

Tommy Ceez · 04-30-12, 07:19 PM

I'm not quite sure if they have name checked their gods, but she is the red priestess

Thrush · 04-30-12, 07:35 PM

I thought they called her that because of her hair.

wishbone · 04-30-12, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Oh okay, I guess this was just part of the whole religions thing that is bound to get a bit confusing. Is it three deaths because Arya saved three of their lives?

"You stole three deaths from the Red God; we have to give them back."

Nausicaa · 04-30-12, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pinata242

Renly's army has already joined with Stannis, except for the Tyrells (Margaery and Loras and their men).

Could you explain? I thought Renly had 100,000 troops. Did they all defect before he died? Obviously I missed something.

pinata242 · 04-30-12, 08:04 PM

Renly had a great host from The Stormlands (Baratheon and their bannermen) and The Reach (Tyrells and their bannermen).

Renly married Margaery Tyrell to strengthen their hold and army. Renly was assassinated and his (Baratheon) men joined his brother Stannis (Baratheon) since Renly wasn't there, Stannis is the most proper one to hold on to.

The Tyrells (Margaery, Renly's new widow and her brother Loras, the Knight of Flowers, Renly's lover) fled back to their home to avoid blame in Renly's death from Stannis.

pinata242 · 04-30-12, 08:07 PM

This really comes down to the concept of the "Seven Kingdoms" of Westeros. Maps with domains will help.

For instance: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Seven_Kingdoms (though be careful on this site because this is about the books, not the show and much of the non-reference material will contain spoilers). This link and it's direct stuff are safe since it's all about geography and families.

dhmac · 04-30-12, 08:33 PM

For someone who talks a lot about honor being important, the way Stannis sneakily killed Renly had ZERO honor.

Tommy Ceez · 04-30-12, 08:39 PM

Davos mentioned that to him on the boat.

dhmac · 04-30-12, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez

Davos mentioned that to him on the boat.

Davos was going on about the scary sorcery of Melisandre, but Stannis' unwillingness to talk about it at all does indicate that he know it goes against his personal "code" yet he'll still do anything to get the iron throne.

Dr. DVD · 04-30-12, 09:35 PM

In terms of character traits, Ser Davos is more or less the replacement for Ned Stark.

04-30-12, 03:55 PM	#104
Thrush DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Under a dead Ohio sky Posts: 4,068	Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12 Didnt the Tulley's forces account for a substantial portion of Renly's army? Without them how many of Renly's men does Stannis now have?

04-30-12, 04:37 PM	#108
Thrush DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Under a dead Ohio sky Posts: 4,068	Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12 Yeah I meant the Tyrells

04-30-12, 04:46 PM	#109
flashburn DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 7,535	Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12 Can someone explain the whole "red god" and the three debts thing to me? Not sure if it just wasn't explained well, or if it was that guys accent, but that whole thing confused me. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: FlasHBurN2012 My Ever Growing Blu-ray, HD DVD, and DVD Collection

04-30-12, 05:49 PM	#111
Ephemeral_Life Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 534	Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12 The Red God is the same god who gave Melisandre the queefs. __________________ "As the Republic grew, however, the Great Senate became corrupted, and the Jedi who interfered were denounced as traitors. Wars and terrorism increased to the point where citizens welcomed a police state, and the tyrannical First Galactic Empire was born." - George Lucas, The Adventures of the Starkiller (Episode One): “The Star Wars”

04-30-12, 05:57 PM	#112
pinata242 DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Owasso, OK Posts: 27,550	Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12 Jaqen is basically playing Final Destination but changing the targets to satisfy Death. __________________ XBL: pinata242 \| PSN: pinata242 \| Steam: pinata242

04-30-12, 06:00 PM	#113
flashburn DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 7,535	Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12 Oh okay, I guess this was just part of the whole religions thing that is bound to get a bit confusing. Is it three deaths because Arya saved three of their lives? __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: FlasHBurN2012 My Ever Growing Blu-ray, HD DVD, and DVD Collection

04-30-12, 06:11 PM	#114
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04-30-12, 07:19 PM	#116
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04-30-12, 07:35 PM	#117
Thrush DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Under a dead Ohio sky Posts: 4,068	Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12 I thought they called her that because of her hair.

04-30-12, 08:04 PM	#120
pinata242 DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Owasso, OK Posts: 27,550	Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12 Renly had a great host from The Stormlands (Baratheon and their bannermen) and The Reach (Tyrells and their bannermen). Renly married Margaery Tyrell to strengthen their hold and army. Renly was assassinated and his (Baratheon) men joined his brother Stannis (Baratheon) since Renly wasn't there, Stannis is the most proper one to hold on to. The Tyrells (Margaery, Renly's new widow and her brother Loras, the Knight of Flowers, Renly's lover) fled back to their home to avoid blame in Renly's death from Stannis. __________________ XBL: pinata242 \| PSN: pinata242 \| Steam: pinata242

04-30-12, 08:07 PM	#121
pinata242 DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Owasso, OK Posts: 27,550	Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12 This really comes down to the concept of the "Seven Kingdoms" of Westeros. Maps with domains will help. For instance: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Seven_Kingdoms (though be careful on this site because this is about the books, not the show and much of the non-reference material will contain spoilers). This link and it's direct stuff are safe since it's all about geography and families. __________________ XBL: pinata242 \| PSN: pinata242 \| Steam: pinata242

04-30-12, 08:33 PM	#122
dhmac DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 5,117	Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12 For someone who talks a lot about honor being important, the way Stannis sneakily killed Renly had ZERO honor. __________________ One man's awesome is another man's teh suck

04-30-12, 08:39 PM	#123
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04-30-12, 09:35 PM	#125
Dr. DVD DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 18,486	Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Ghost of Harrenhal" -- 4/29/12 In terms of character traits, Ser Davos is more or less the replacement for Ned Stark. __________________ "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." -Verbal Kint in The Usual Suspects