Real Time with Bill Maher (2012)

[dhmac]

Originally Posted by Groucho

I was tickled to see Mark Foley as a guest.

Did you text him?

[dhmac]

As much as Kennedy already talked too much in the show, I was a little disappointed that they ran out of time just when she claimed she was going to "prove" that atheism is actually a religion. I was a bit interested in hearing what fallacy laden-ed BS argument Kennedy was going to use, and then hear what Maher was going to say to either mock or just shoot down her claim.

[Mr. Cinema]

I don't want to ever see Rohrabacher on the show again. I've been a huge fan of Real Time for years and usually rewatch episodes a few times, but I won't watch this one again. Too much of him and Kennedy just blabbering non-stop. I felt bad for Bashir. He couldn't get a word in.

Rohrabacher had the "get off my lawn (you damn immigrants)" vibe going on.

[Mr. Cinema]

Originally Posted by dhmac

As much as Kennedy already talked too much in the show, I was a little disappointed that they ran out of time just when she claimed she was going to "prove" that atheism is actually a religion. I was a bit interested in hearing what fallacy laden-ed BS argument Kennedy was going to use, and then hear what Maher was going to say to either mock or just shoot down her claim.

Yep. Things were getting really testy at the end, just before they ran out of time. I would have liked to see that discussion had as well.

[CRM114]

Rohrbacher perfectly sums up the state of the Republican party right now. Just make shit up about Obama and say it over and over again on conservative media outlets until the minions start repeating it as fact. Rohrbacher just wanted so badly to call Obama anti-defense and paint him as a liberal weenie which just doesn't hold water to any sentient human being.

Rohrbacher pretty much dissed Maher on his own show too with his parting shot about his character.

And I guess Kennedy is some sort of libertarian? They are always so confused.

[Josh-da-man]

Originally Posted by dhmac

As much as Kennedy already talked too much in the show, I was a little disappointed that they ran out of time just when she claimed she was going to "prove" that atheism is actually a religion. I was a bit interested in hearing what fallacy laden-ed BS argument Kennedy was going to use, and then hear what Maher was going to say to either mock or just shoot down her claim.

Yeah, I understand that it's a live show and they have to keep it on schedule, but when someone's about to say something monumentally stupid, they should be given the floor.

[Josh-da-man]

Originally Posted by CRM114

Rohrbacher just wanted so badly to call Obama anti-defense and paint him as a liberal weenie which just doesn't hold water to any sentient human being.

Of course Obama is weak on defense. Not only is he not a Republican, he's a Democrat. He is, by definition, weak on defense. It doesn't matter how many terrorists get killed on his watch, he's always going to be weak and ineffectual.

[CRM114]

What about Overtime? Did anyone watch it?

[MikahC]

I watch Overtime most weeks (including this one). They didn't continue the discussion of atheism being a religion.

[Mr. Cinema]

Per the facebook page:

Top-of-show will be actor and monologist, Mike Daisey whose show is "The Agony and the Ecstasy of Steve Jobs" at the Public Theater through March 3rd.

Mid-show will be Michael Hastings, author of The Operators and Contributing Editor for Rolling Stone

Panel:
Wes Moore – Host of OWN's "Beyond Belief" and author of The Other Wes Moore.
Suze Orman – Host of OWN's "America's Money Class" and author of The Money Class.
Rick Lazio – Former Representative (R-NY) and his website is IGNITEwithRickLazio.com.

[Jack Straw]

Oh Christ...Suze Orman? I even hate the way she spells her name.

[creekdipper]

Originally Posted by slop101

Yeah, pretty much; (mostly) old, rich, ignorant, etc.

Which sort of sums up the fans of Real Time in a nutshell.

[dhmac]

Bill Maher did talk about the claim that "atheism is a religion" this week

Scroll down to see clip at bottom of this link

I don't know if this was done in direct response to Kennedy's last second BS claim in the previous episode, but good thing he didn't do this segment last week, or Kennedy would've talked over it (or at least tried to).

[Mr. Cinema]

Next week's show will have Al Sharpton and Reihan Salam. That should be fun to watch.

[Throwing Copper]

Anybody catch Bill Maher's live and NEW (mostly) standup routine on Yahoo live streaming last night?

It was pretty funny. The big surprise was he donated $1 million dollars to a Super PAC for Obama after the show.

Good for him.

Although this cast of clowns has almost no chance to beat Obama anyway.

[mcnabb]

Originally Posted by Throwing Copper

Although this cast of clowns has almost no chance to beat Obama anyway.

No argument here that the republicans are fielding a cast of clowns, but sadly the last 2 Presidents we've had (Bush and Obama) should be put in that 'clown' category.

Obama and Bush (along with republican and democrat congresses) have accumulated 10 trillion dollars of debt in the past 10 years, while the previous 42 Presidents acculumated about 5 trillion. Eventually somebody has to pay the bill on all this debt.....

Can we throw them all out in Washington, including Obama?

[MikahC]

It depends on what you mean by "them all" because even if we discarded all of the Executive and Legislative branches, the kingmakers behind them would remain (including the 2 major political parties) and we'd just end up with the same thing soon enough. The reform would come in reforming the system the current politicians are beholden to. Signatures to get on a ballot, then equal access to resources (funding, TV time, etc.) to mount a campaign, then a vote. I will grant that anyone who disagrees with that has a point, and I still won't care. The political process is currently being hijacked by "free speech" money and the costs outweigh the benefits (IMO of course). And yes, that means if *I* want to run a political ad supporting someone, I wouldn't be able to. He'd have to do it himself from the allocated resources he gets for that purpose. All I can contribute is my time. The rest comes out of allocated resources funded by taxes (not even an optional "check here to send $1").

How much to give them? How to tax for it? That's all a question of degree, not kind.

[Mr. Cinema]

Real Time is back tonight.

Top-of-show is former Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI), founder of Progressives United and author of While America Sleeps.

Mid-show will be Bob Lutz, former Vice Chairman of General Motors and author of Car Guys Versus Bean Counters: The Battle for the Soul of American Business.

Panel:
James Carville – Democratic Strategist and Professor at Tulane University.
Neil deGrasse Tyson – Author of Space Chronicles and Astrophysicist at the American Museum of Natural History.
John Heilemann - National Affairs Editor of New York Magazine and MSNBC Political Analyst.

[PopcornTreeCt]

Neil deGrasse Tyson!

I'll be interested to see what he has to say about Breitbart.

[RoadToPerdition]

I don't believe the show brought up Breitbart at all. I wonder if they just didn't want to or if it's a final "fuck you" to a guy they didn't like?

Great episode this week. Very funny lines including:

"So are you the socialist for taking the money or is Obama the socialist for giving it to you?"

"George W. Bush, the town drunk of Texas, decided he should try his hand at some Presidentin'!"

"It was I.Q. versus Bar-B-Que."

And that Bob Lutz guy...

[Evan Meadow]

Maher probably never really liked him so why bring him up in his opinion.

He liked and respected Hitchens so that's why he got the nice tribute.

[slop101]

Originally Posted by RoadToPerdition

I don't believe the show brought up Breitbart at all. I wonder if they just didn't want to or if it's a final "fuck you" to a guy they didn't like?

They talk about him a little in the overtime.

[Jack Straw]

Breitbart was on the panel not too long ago (2011, pre-Weiner debacle) and I was perplexed that no one (including Bill) brought up the Shirley Sherrod incident. It was like the elephant in the room that no one was yelling "Elephant!". The guy basically assassinated her character by editing a video causing one to believe that she was a racist when the video in its entirely actually showed the opposite. The guy was a slimebucket and he should have been sued for slander with malicious intent.

From Wikipedia:
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On July 19, 2010, Shirley Sherrod was forced to resign from her appointed position as Georgia State Director of Rural Development for the United States Department of Agriculture because of video excerpts from her address to a March 2010 NAACP event and commentary posted by blogger Andrew Breitbart on his website. Based on these video excerpts, the NAACP condemned Sherrod's remarks as racist and U.S. government officials called on the official to resign. But, with review of the complete unedited video in full context, the NAACP, White House officials, and Tom Vilsack, the United States Secretary of Agriculture, apologized for the firing and offered Sherrod a new position. In 2011, Sherrod sued Breitbart for defamation. His attorneys filed for dismissal two months later on First Amendment grounds. In February 2012, Breitbart's motion was denied, leaving Sherrod's suit against him to proceed.

[slop101]

Maybe Sherrod had him killed? Or someone who he was planning on character-assassinating actually assassinated him instead.

[dhmac]

Originally Posted by slop101

Maybe Sherrod had him killed? Or someone who he was planning on character-assassinating actually assassinated him instead.

But Breitbart had no character.