Twenty Four (24) -- "8:00pm to 9:00pm" -- 01/25/10
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It was light on action tonight, but a good episode nevertheless.
Absolutely loved the stuff with Renee. I think this episode really showed that Annie Wersching is not only hot, but a damn good actress. I thought her speech to Vlad was solid for such an intense and heartbreaking moment for her character. The darker hair and the intense glances...I think this is some of the best acting from a female lead on 24.
Very surprised that Jack was played so easily with the decoy car.
The Dana Walsh subplot actuallly got a little more interesting, even though it's total silly soap opera writing. It's still irritating seeing Katee Sackhoff play such a scared weakling.
So let me get this straight:
Dana or Jenny was a minor and had some hill billy boyfriend and were criminals. Both get caught, BF goes to jail and Jenny testifies against him and she gets a slap on the wrist. Jenny moves away and changes her name to Dana.
Jack did mention that the FBI covered up Renee's undercover operation with the Russians. So I think it is feasible that she went soft and tried to be a "By the Books" agent in order to put that part of her career behind her when she was still with the FBI. I think her confrontation with Alan Wilson that we didn't see at the end of last season brought out these darker emotions that she kept bottled up along with the death of her boss Larry. I assume that Larry may have had some involvement in the coverup, which is why she took his death really hard last season.
Absolutely loved the stuff with Renee. I think this episode really showed that Annie Wersching is not only hot, but a damn good actress. I thought her speech to Vlad was solid for such an intense and heartbreaking moment for her character. The darker hair and the intense glances...I think this is some of the best acting from a female lead on 24.
Very surprised that Jack was played so easily with the decoy car.
The Dana Walsh subplot actuallly got a little more interesting, even though it's total silly soap opera writing. It's still irritating seeing Katee Sackhoff play such a scared weakling.
So let me get this straight:
Dana or Jenny was a minor and had some hill billy boyfriend and were criminals. Both get caught, BF goes to jail and Jenny testifies against him and she gets a slap on the wrist. Jenny moves away and changes her name to Dana.
Jack did mention that the FBI covered up Renee's undercover operation with the Russians. So I think it is feasible that she went soft and tried to be a "By the Books" agent in order to put that part of her career behind her when she was still with the FBI. I think her confrontation with Alan Wilson that we didn't see at the end of last season brought out these darker emotions that she kept bottled up along with the death of her boss Larry. I assume that Larry may have had some involvement in the coverup, which is why she took his death really hard last season.
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Re: Twenty Four (24) -- "8:00pm to 9:00pm" -- 01/25/10
Not the best episode this season but still good
i hate the Dana walsh stuff
all i can say is 2 years is a long time to be undercover with the russians !
after that, Day 7 really would have been a piece of cake for Renee
Undercover with the Russian mob she would have seen all kind of butchering, traffic of women and girls, child prostitution, all kinds of sick torture
i hate the Dana walsh stuff
all i can say is 2 years is a long time to be undercover with the russians !
after that, Day 7 really would have been a piece of cake for Renee
Undercover with the Russian mob she would have seen all kind of butchering, traffic of women and girls, child prostitution, all kinds of sick torture
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Jack did mention that the FBI covered up Renee's undercover operation with the Russians. So I think it is feasible that she went soft and tried to be a "By the Books" agent in order to put that part of her career behind her when she was still with the FBI. I think her confrontation with Alan Wilson that we didn't see at the end of last season brought out these darker emotions that she kept bottled up along with the death of her boss Larry. I assume that Larry may have had some involvement in the coverup, which is why she took his death really hard last season.
That's my take on it. Perhaps she didn't like the undercover life, maybe she did get raped or simply tarnished from being physically abused by Vlad and tried to forget this part of her life when she became by the book when we met her last season. It's not that far stretched.
Funny, this whole Dana subplot has all the ingredients and I should really hate it, but I kinda feel for her. I really hope she kills him or Ortiz does it for her.
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Maybe I was just tired after a long day at the office, but I thought last night's show was rather dull. I think it's because I just don't care about the Renee character very much or what happens to her. Or maybe it's because Jack is playing more of the observer right now than the action hero.
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I think Renee was undercover 6 years ago for 18 months. I'm sure she saw some horrific stuff while there and Vlad did some god awful things to her. However, after she finished that assignment I would bet that Larry really took her under his wing and with the help of FBI therapy and a thoughtful boss, she was brought back into the FBI and re-trained as an agent. I think that is why she appeared so green, even though she was a senior agent as she took the reigns when Larry was killed last season.
However, once Larry was killed and seeing what Jack (who was a former government agent) was willing to do to get to the truth and to get justice, she realized that if she played by the books things would never get done. She didn't want to see the people behind the whole plot last season to get away without any ramifications, so she decided to take a page from Jack's old playbook and do things her own way.
Of course this put her into a dark place where she has been for the past 2 years (as I have read somewhere that it's been 2 years between last season and this season). She has alienated everyone from her life and even tried to kill herself. Now though, she agreed to go undercover to give her some excitement again. She also is not afraid to die and thus she feels she has nothing to live for. Hopefully she finds a reason to live again as I think she is an asset to the show...
However, once Larry was killed and seeing what Jack (who was a former government agent) was willing to do to get to the truth and to get justice, she realized that if she played by the books things would never get done. She didn't want to see the people behind the whole plot last season to get away without any ramifications, so she decided to take a page from Jack's old playbook and do things her own way.
Of course this put her into a dark place where she has been for the past 2 years (as I have read somewhere that it's been 2 years between last season and this season). She has alienated everyone from her life and even tried to kill herself. Now though, she agreed to go undercover to give her some excitement again. She also is not afraid to die and thus she feels she has nothing to live for. Hopefully she finds a reason to live again as I think she is an asset to the show...
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Re: Twenty Four (24) -- "8:00pm to 9:00pm" -- 01/25/10
Since there are so many Russian characters this season couldn't they have hired at least one actor who actually looks Slavic? They all look like rejects from a Keane tribute band.
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I think Renee was undercover 6 years ago for 18 months. I'm sure she saw some horrific stuff while there and Vlad did some god awful things to her. However, after she finished that assignment I would bet that Larry really took her under his wing and with the help of FBI therapy and a thoughtful boss, she was brought back into the FBI and re-trained as an agent. I think that is why she appeared so green, even though she was a senior agent as she took the reigns when Larry was killed last season.
However, once Larry was killed and seeing what Jack (who was a former government agent) was willing to do to get to the truth and to get justice, she realized that if she played by the books things would never get done. She didn't want to see the people behind the whole plot last season to get away without any ramifications, so she decided to take a page from Jack's old playbook and do things her own way.
Of course this put her into a dark place where she has been for the past 2 years (as I have read somewhere that it's been 2 years between last season and this season). She has alienated everyone from her life and even tried to kill herself. Now though, she agreed to go undercover to give her some excitement again. She also is not afraid to die and thus she feels she has nothing to live for. Hopefully she finds a reason to live again as I think she is an asset to the show...
However, once Larry was killed and seeing what Jack (who was a former government agent) was willing to do to get to the truth and to get justice, she realized that if she played by the books things would never get done. She didn't want to see the people behind the whole plot last season to get away without any ramifications, so she decided to take a page from Jack's old playbook and do things her own way.
Of course this put her into a dark place where she has been for the past 2 years (as I have read somewhere that it's been 2 years between last season and this season). She has alienated everyone from her life and even tried to kill herself. Now though, she agreed to go undercover to give her some excitement again. She also is not afraid to die and thus she feels she has nothing to live for. Hopefully she finds a reason to live again as I think she is an asset to the show...
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Re: Twenty Four (24) -- "8:00pm to 9:00pm" -- 01/25/10
I guess the CTU background check doesn't include fingerprinting. The Dana/Jenny story is dumb and huge plot holes on top of it.
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Well, it's somewhat feasible that nothing came up because she was a minor when she committed the crime. But honestly at this point, you're better off revealing what's happening to CTU rather than agreeing to somehow embezzle $100,000+ through your job.
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Re: Twenty Four (24) -- "8:00pm to 9:00pm" -- 01/25/10
This episode was solid, sans the two cougar sub plots:
- Really writers? Are we expected to believe, in a post 9/11 world, that a woman convicted of a rather serious crime as a minor could pass an extensive (or rather fool) background check? This was lazy and it stinks of network interference.
- The two Russian brothers seem to have their own agenda, shifting accents and enough reckless abandon to make soap opera writers blush. That whole sequence was baffling to me.
- Really writers? Are we expected to believe, in a post 9/11 world, that a woman convicted of a rather serious crime as a minor could pass an extensive (or rather fool) background check? This was lazy and it stinks of network interference.
- The two Russian brothers seem to have their own agenda, shifting accents and enough reckless abandon to make soap opera writers blush. That whole sequence was baffling to me.
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I don't think it's lazy writing. I think Howard Gordon, who came up with the story for this episode, and his writers learned their lesson from season 6 with the exception of the Dana/Jenny subplot. I actually re-watched episode 24 from last season and the final scene involving Alan Wilson and you could see that Renee was evolving into a really darker place which culminated from the stuff I previously mentioned.
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This episode was solid, sans the two cougar sub plots:
- Really writers? Are we expected to believe, in a post 9/11 world, that a woman convicted of a rather serious crime as a minor could pass an extensive (or rather fool) background check? This was lazy and it stinks of network interference.
- The two Russian brothers seem to have their own agenda, shifting accents and enough reckless abandon to make soap opera writers blush. That whole sequence was baffling to me.
- Really writers? Are we expected to believe, in a post 9/11 world, that a woman convicted of a rather serious crime as a minor could pass an extensive (or rather fool) background check? This was lazy and it stinks of network interference.
- The two Russian brothers seem to have their own agenda, shifting accents and enough reckless abandon to make soap opera writers blush. That whole sequence was baffling to me.
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Re: Twenty Four (24) -- "8:00pm to 9:00pm" -- 01/25/10
Maybe at the end Dana gets back at the redneck by unleashing a cougar on his ass... That would be the only thing that will save that story line.
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I'm not defending the Dana/Jenny storyline, but is it feasible that since she was allegedly a minor when she committed the crimes with her BF that she could have reached some kind of plea agreement? She said she testified against him and he went to prison. Thus, would they have been able to expunge the crime from her record? And then she could have legally changed her name to Dana Walsh. If the crime is expunged from her record, would it have shown up in an employee background check?
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Here is what I don't get: Jack Bauer has saved the world on multiple occasions and has even testified before Congress. How come no one ever recognizes him? Never mind going undercover, but random police officers and suspects don't know who he is either.
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Yes, you are right about that. He testified before Congress in season 7 about his torture tactics and it was broadcasted on TV. He should be the most recognizable face in the world, yet they assume he can pass off a cover as a German arms dealer.