"V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09 - Page 9

Tommy Ceez · 11-07-09, 12:25 AM

Couldnt Morris Chestnut just have taken HIMSELF to the press. Im pretty sure his resistance would be bolstered by adding 6 BILLION HUMANS TO HIS SIDE!

Giantrobo · 11-07-09, 12:48 AM

All you guys talkin' 'bout what you would have done...

If a Reptilian Alien came at you swinging a knife like a Ninja you'd all shit in your pants then get cut by said alien.

whotony · 11-07-09, 01:07 AM

you didn't actually read what I posted?
I was wondering why after the aliens were dead they couldn't have been shown to the press or someone as proof of an invasion.

gmanca · 11-07-09, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by whotony

you didn't actually read what I posted?
I was wondering why after the aliens were dead they couldn't have been shown to the press or someone as proof of an invasion.

And it would be said to be an elaborate hoax concocted by scientists to discredit the "peaceful" Visitors.

Giantrobo · 11-07-09, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by whotony

you didn't actually read what I posted?
I was wondering why after the aliens were dead they couldn't have been shown to the press or someone as proof of an invasion.

My point is everyone is saying what they would do and I'm saying they wouldn't do it.

pinata242 · 11-07-09, 01:21 AM

What kind of resistance could we organize? Something tells me they can wipe us out. At the very least retreat into space and pick us off.

Michael Corvin · 11-07-09, 07:52 AM

Resistance? I'd lock my doors and see how high I could get my gamerscore before the inevitable.

mnementh · 11-07-09, 12:16 PM

Resistance? V = current * resistance

Raul3 · 11-07-09, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

Resistance? I'd lock my doors and see how high I could get my gamerscore before the inevitable.

Of course, first I'd have to offer my wife and kids to the gods, err Vs...

GuessWho · 11-07-09, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by spamurai

Ugh... disappointed they killed off...

Spoiler:

...so quickly.

It's a mask. The Visitors might have a warehouse full of his mask.

Deep_lurk · 11-07-09, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GuessWho

It's a mask. The Visitors might have a warehouse full of his mask.

Or he might have a twin brother who shows up to avenge his twin's death but then is convinced to join the 5th column.

Duran · 11-08-09, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom

That comment from Johnson about the meaning of "V" is a little over the top. Even when I was only peripherally aware of the mini and the series way back when, I knew it was a double meaning.

The more I think about this show, the more I'm interested in seeing where they go with this, even if they did get off to a somewhat rocky start.

It may be over the top, but I do believe he's genuine. The first "V" was dedicated to resistance fighters, so it's obviously something he feels strongly about. It certainly had a double meaning for the original; whether that was Johnson's intent or not, he was aware of it. But no one called them the "V"s in the original miniseries. I do see his point about them throwing it around on the new show like some wannabe hip lingo.

calhoun07 · 11-08-09, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GuessWho

It's a mask. The Visitors might have a warehouse full of his mask.

The clue is that they "cloned" the skin. So you kill off one, the clone of the skin will still exist and get put on another alien.

Draven · 11-08-09, 03:39 AM

Here's my theory on the preview spoiler:

Spoiler:

Giantrobo · 11-08-09, 06:18 AM

So are they Digitally Altering Morena's face in some scenes or is she just a very good actress? There are times when her face has a very weird unnatural look to it. That creepy, but still hot, half smirk/smile she does is disturbing.

Wolf359 · 11-08-09, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez

Couldnt Morris Chestnut just have taken HIMSELF to the press. Im pretty sure his resistance would be bolstered by adding 6 BILLION HUMANS TO HIS SIDE!

Very good point!

jdslater1 · 11-08-09, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by riley_dude

Yes. Pretty much.

ha! Seeing that crash it looks like they didn't have the budget, it looked poor.

Jadzia · 11-08-09, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelWill

I liked this, but I feel like they rushed too quickly into the resistance/lizard people plot. I'm kind of interested in what would happen in the three weeks following an alien visitation that they unceremoniously skipped over.

Finally watched this. My sentiments exactly.

The original did a much better job of laying out the aliens as being benevolent and then the reveal of their true nature was huge and shocking. This was pretty anti-climactic.

CertifiedTHX · 11-08-09, 07:47 PM

So, Morena Baccarin's Anna is Diana. (Even a similar name.) Scott Wolf is Kristine Walsh. Morris Chestnut is Martin. Elizabeth Mitchell's son seems to be a combination of Daniel Bernstein and Robin Maxwell. And Elizabeth Mitchell, herself, must be more or less akin to Mike Donovan or Juliet Parrish.

The arrival of the mothership and the first meeting between humans and the Visitors at the top of the UN building in 1983 had an epic quality, accompanied by a nearly cinematic score. I felt none of that with the cognate moments here. It was little more than a rehash of Independence Day, complete with the giant shadow crawling over the landscape.

The people applauding after Anna gives her opening speech was laughable. We live in a cynical age: We don't witness a space ship fly over the city, a talking head give us an address "of peace," and buy it en masse.

The special effects were decent-- the best of them being the mothership-- but the shuttle was an obvious piece of CGI and had an unappealing design compared to that of the original. So, too, with the mothership, itself.

As others have said, they crammed too much into the pilot. Would have been more effective to draw everything out over the first couple episodes, maybe even these first four in November with a cliffhanger that ends on the revelation of who "the V's" really are. And not in such anti-climactic fashion, as Jadzia observed.

It has some interesting ideas, even if the execution is sloppy in places, and I'll keep watching. But it doesn't hold a candle to Kenneth Johnson's work. I would much rather see him be able to recreate that like he's been wanting to do. With all the old TV shows being re-imagined on the big screen, I'm amazed no studio has yet backed him.

--THX

Hokeyboy · 11-08-09, 08:05 PM

Finally watched it today. Liked it a lot, will tune in for more. Agreed about it feeling rushed, and there's a whole "glossy" feeling to the show -- the actors, the sets, the CGI, everything -- that makes it feel highly contrived and unnatural. Kind of like how nothing on "Smallville" ever feels even REMOTELY connected to the real world.

Regardless, I still enjoyed it. Hope it can sustain. Oh and I agree with the common sentiment about Scott Wolf: he is fucking terrible. But he's been fucking terrible in everything I've ever seen him in. Which, thankfully, does not include a Speedo.

Abob Teff · 11-11-09, 12:53 AM

Isn't Sean Hannity dead?

(everything else about the show has been said ... except that I expect Wash to become the new Martin)

Did anybody else watch this on ABC.com (or Hulu)? Did you take the survey focused on the 4-day delay window? I'll have to wait till Saturday to watch episode 2!

Deep_lurk · 11-11-09, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Abob Teff

(everything else about the show has been said ... except that I expect Wash to become the new Martin)

That's been said, too:

"V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09

Dead Martin was replaced by his brother Phillip.

LiquidSky · 11-11-09, 09:13 AM

I finally watched the pilot last night and really liked it.

Hey Hokeyboy: I like Scott Wolf in a speedo!

LiquidSky · 11-11-09, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeramm

Nashville ABC affiliate isnt showing this until 12:05am the first 3 nights due to a Tennessee Titans weekly update show. The team is 1-6 so i figure they could finish all the highlights for the week during the first commercial break but guess I will have to wait and DVR it.

I'm watching it on ABC.com because of this.

fujishig · 11-11-09, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CertifiedTHX

The people applauding after Anna gives her opening speech was laughable. We live in a cynical age: We don't witness a space ship fly over the city, a talking head give us an address "of peace," and buy it en masse.

--THX

This was my groan-out-loud moment... that and the "universal healthcare" joke. And the whole "aliens are responsible for the economy, the wars, etc" reveal.

I guess they needed that badly cgi'd plane to show that the government did try to mount some kind of reaction, which didn't work. That scene was actually better than the one that followed where mom hops the fence and the son is standing right there, easy to find.

I agree with whoever was complaining about the "annoying kids" that they seem to insert in every show. I complained about them in Invasion and Surface and I'll complain about them again. I realize they're needed to move the plot along, but ugh. Also, how old is the son supposed to be?

Otherwise, pilot was enjoyable, though it took me a week to finally get around to watching it. I didn't realize they were only going to air four eps, then hiatus.

11-07-09, 12:25 AM	#201
Tommy Ceez DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Capitol of the Empire! Center of all Commerce and Culture! Crossroads of Civilization! NEW ROME!!!...aka New York City Posts: 9,682	Re: "V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09 Couldnt Morris Chestnut just have taken HIMSELF to the press. Im pretty sure his resistance would be bolstered by adding 6 BILLION HUMANS TO HIS SIDE! __________________ Tommy Ceez may or may not be a moron, but he's OUR possible moron - El Scorcho

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Giantrobo DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: TORRANCE, CA Posts: 41,414	Re: "V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09 All you guys talkin' 'bout what you would have done... If a Reptilian Alien came at you swinging a knife like a Ninja you'd all shit in your pants then get cut by said alien. __________________ XBOX Gamertag: Giantrobo On my 3rd 360 as of 9/27/2007

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whotony DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: earth ..."that's were i keep all my stuff" Posts: 6,769	Re: "V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09 you didn't actually read what I posted? I was wondering why after the aliens were dead they couldn't have been shown to the press or someone as proof of an invasion. __________________ "When he hits that ball in the middle of the bat there on that sweet spot, there 's no park in the league that can hold his balls in." Gary Matthews "What's going to happen is that you jerk off the ball. You almost want to let this guy, here jam you and if it comes comes, it comes comes." http://www.prestonandsteve.com/audio/1342.mp3 My Countdown Counting down to: 9 years hard to believe.

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pinata242 DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Owasso, OK Posts: 16,751	Re: "V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09 What kind of resistance could we organize? Something tells me they can wipe us out. At the very least retreat into space and pick us off. __________________ XBL: pinata360 Wii/DS: Click for codes! PSN: pinata242

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Michael Corvin DVD Talk Hero Join Date: May 1999 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 32,062	Re: "V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09 Resistance? I'd lock my doors and see how high I could get my gamerscore before the inevitable. __________________ Xbox Live: Sith Draven / PSN: SithDraven / Wii: 3497 1324 7344 6386 Now Playing: Overlord \| Recently Finished: Ghostbusters \| On Deck: Lego Rock Band Video Game Report Card: 2007 \| 2008 \| 2009 If the RIAA had their way, listening to music at all would be illegal. -Suprmallet

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mnementh DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Posts: 1,943	Resistance? V = current * resistance

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Draven DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rosemount, MN Posts: 10,795	Re: "V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09 Here's my theory on the preview spoiler: Spoiler: Dream sequence __________________ XBL GamerTag: Draven Sinclair PSN: DravenSinclair

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Giantrobo DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: TORRANCE, CA Posts: 41,414	Re: "V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09 So are they Digitally Altering Morena's face in some scenes or is she just a very good actress? There are times when her face has a very weird unnatural look to it. That creepy, but still hot, half smirk/smile she does is disturbing. __________________ XBOX Gamertag: Giantrobo On my 3rd 360 as of 9/27/2007

11-08-09, 07:47 PM	#219
CertifiedTHX DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 1,066	Re: "V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09 So, Morena Baccarin's Anna is Diana. (Even a similar name.) Scott Wolf is Kristine Walsh. Morris Chestnut is Martin. Elizabeth Mitchell's son seems to be a combination of Daniel Bernstein and Robin Maxwell. And Elizabeth Mitchell, herself, must be more or less akin to Mike Donovan or Juliet Parrish. The arrival of the mothership and the first meeting between humans and the Visitors at the top of the UN building in 1983 had an epic quality, accompanied by a nearly cinematic score. I felt none of that with the cognate moments here. It was little more than a rehash of Independence Day, complete with the giant shadow crawling over the landscape. The people applauding after Anna gives her opening speech was laughable. We live in a cynical age: We don't witness a space ship fly over the city, a talking head give us an address "of peace," and buy it en masse. The special effects were decent-- the best of them being the mothership-- but the shuttle was an obvious piece of CGI and had an unappealing design compared to that of the original. So, too, with the mothership, itself. As others have said, they crammed too much into the pilot. Would have been more effective to draw everything out over the first couple episodes, maybe even these first four in November with a cliffhanger that ends on the revelation of who "the V's" really are. And not in such anti-climactic fashion, as Jadzia observed. It has some interesting ideas, even if the execution is sloppy in places, and I'll keep watching. But it doesn't hold a candle to Kenneth Johnson's work. I would much rather see him be able to recreate that like he's been wanting to do. With all the old TV shows being re-imagined on the big screen, I'm amazed no studio has yet backed him. --THX __________________ There is no spoon.

11-08-09, 08:05 PM	#220
Hokeyboy DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 6,103	Re: "V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09 Finally watched it today. Liked it a lot, will tune in for more. Agreed about it feeling rushed, and there's a whole "glossy" feeling to the show -- the actors, the sets, the CGI, everything -- that makes it feel highly contrived and unnatural. Kind of like how nothing on "Smallville" ever feels even REMOTELY connected to the real world. Regardless, I still enjoyed it. Hope it can sustain. Oh and I agree with the common sentiment about Scott Wolf: he is fucking terrible. But he's been fucking terrible in everything I've ever seen him in. Which, thankfully, does not include a Speedo. __________________ This guy of all people. Hokeyboy, one of the most ignorant, thoughtless posters I've seen on here. I've seen your act and it isn't good. -- bootsy Hokeyboy is like, the biggest douche of the year! -- gglass4269 He's probably a very well paid anticop douche, thank you very much. -- CaptainMarvel

11-11-09, 12:53 AM	#221
Abob Teff DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Springfield, IL USA Posts: 3,644	Re: "V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09 Isn't Sean Hannity dead? (everything else about the show has been said ... except that I expect Wash to become the new Martin) Did anybody else watch this on ABC.com (or Hulu)? Did you take the survey focused on the 4-day delay window? I'll have to wait till Saturday to watch episode 2! __________________ Don't believe everything you read on the internet; that's how World War I was started.

11-11-09, 09:13 AM	#223
LiquidSky DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Pokey Dot Lounge, Nashville, TN Posts: 7,089	Re: "V" -- New Series -- "Pilot" -- Premieres 11/03/09 I finally watched the pilot last night and really liked it. Hey Hokeyboy: I like Scott Wolf in a speedo! __________________ "I am about to get in a knife fight over a corn dog."