Dexter - "If I Had a Hammer" - 11/01/09

[Ovid]

Originally Posted by Poink

We don't know all of Trinity's history yet; we can only speculate.

I think it's obvious that he killed his father at least, given the violent nature of the murder as well as the things he said when killing the coffee shop guy.

Remember when he picked the fight with the guy it seemed he was setting up to kill, he kept yelling "You did this" or something of the sort.

[Groucho]

They're really dragging out the storyline of Deb researching Harry's CIs. It's been going on since last season, and it seems like Dexter's mother has been "the next folder" forever.

[clckworang]

Originally Posted by Ovid

The problem I have with Rita is it is not a consistent character progression. She was someone who could not tolerate sexual or real intimate contact a few seasons ago and now she is this completely normal caring wife?

On the other hand, she may be sabotaging a relationship that actually is getting to intimate (close) as abuse survivors do...

But the same thing can be said about Dexter. In the beginning of the show, he also wasn't able to tolerate sexual or real intimate contact. Well, I guess the intimate contact could be argued, if you use it in a broad sense to describe his relationship with Deb. But he definitely wasn't interested in sex; that was part of the reason why Rita was so appealing to him in the first place.

In the last couple of days, I've caught up with all the episodes, minus the premiere, which I had already seen. I took a break from watching because of the Horror Challenge. But man, this season has been great! I was shocked about Lundy's death (sad, he was a great character) and the reveal of the Trinity Killer's domestic life. Lithgow has really been great this season. That scene in the bathtub with his wife was uber-creepy!

[Deftones]

not much going on, but i did like how Dexter knew exactly how to push Trinity's buttons by taking the urn with the ashes.

[Groucho]

Originally Posted by Deftones

not much going on, but i did like how Dexter knew exactly how to push Trinity's buttons by taking the urn with the ashes.

That was pretty damn creepy. I don't think you'd have to be a serial killer to react that way.

[Kmical]

Originally Posted by Groucho

That was pretty damn creepy. I don't think you'd have to be a serial killer to react that way.

I don't know - a "please put that back" or "give me that!" would probably be a more appropriate response than pinning someone's neck to the wall with your forearm.

[Deftones]

Originally Posted by Groucho

That was pretty damn creepy. I don't think you'd have to be a serial killer to react that way.

Ummm, you'd push someone up against a wall and cut off their airway? Sure, be mad, but that was just indicative of how good Dexter is at reading people.

[mugwump]

Originally Posted by Kmical

I don't know - a "please put that back" or "give me that!" would probably be a more appropriate response than pinning someone's neck to the wall with your forearm.

Except that the look on Dex's face as he was holding the open urn was just begging for a beating. He was smirking like he had just jerked off into the darn thing for Pete's sake.

[dvdhook]

Originally Posted by Groucho

They're really dragging out the storyline of Deb researching Harry's CIs. It's been going on since last season, and it seems like Dexter's mother has been "the next folder" forever.

I agree - I wish they would get this over with already. Plus I don't understand why all the suspense - so what if she finds out that Dexter's mother was an informant and was killed? She'll just think Harry adopted Dexter out of guilt. I'm not sure where this storyline is going.

So Dexter now has the hammer, and he also has Lundy's tapes and books which Deb thinks the Trinity Killer stole. I wonder if he will be mistaken for Trinity?

[Coral]

Originally Posted by mugwump

I'm just jealous of Dexter's new Man Shed. I want one. But not for storing my serial killer paraphernalia. Honest.

I always thought it was risky for Dexter to keep his trophies (blood samples) inside the air conditioner in his apartment. But keeping it and his other things in the shed (even if it is locked) seems extra risky. To think, Dexter didn't seem to have a problem with the shed being unlocked since it was Rita's idea to lock it up. Stuff like that should be hidden in the attic or in a secret spot under the floor boards or something.

not much going on, but i did like how Dexter knew exactly how to push Trinity's buttons by taking the urn with the ashes.

I thought it was odd that Trinity didn't question why he had the urn, and Dexter didn't try to cover his tracks by giving an explanation as to why he was holding it. I was expecting him to say how nice the urn was or that he has a similar one (or something like that). I know if I were Trinity, I would wonder what Dexter was up to.

[Coral]

Originally Posted by dvdhook

Plus I don't understand why all the suspense - so what if she finds out that Dexter's mother was an informant and was killed? She'll just think Harry adopted Dexter out of guilt. I'm not sure where this storyline is going.

I think the danger is that she will find out who Dexter's mother was, and that will lead to her finding out that she has another son who was the Ice Truck Killer - which may start to put the puzzle together about Dexter.

So Dexter now has the hammer, and he also has Lundy's tapes and books which Deb thinks the Trinity Killer stole. I wonder if he will be mistaken for Trinity?

I would hate for this to happen. Dexter knows that Deb thinks Trinity stole Lundy's items, so I would hope he's careful enough to ensure he's not caught red-handed with those things.

[dvdhook]

Originally Posted by Coral

I think the danger is that she will find out who Dexter's mother was, and that will lead to her finding out that she has another son who was the Ice Truck Killer - which may start to put the puzzle together about Dexter.

That's a good point.

[Jeremy517]

Originally Posted by Ovid

Remember when he picked the fight with the guy it seemed he was setting up to kill, he kept yelling "You did this" or something of the sort.

I'm assuming that Trinity's father blamed Trinity for his mother and sister's suicides, and thus beat him up. Trinity relived the beating and then killed his "father" again.

[Jeremy517]

Originally Posted by dvdhook

So Dexter now has the hammer, and he also has Lundy's tapes and books which Deb thinks the Trinity Killer stole. I wonder if he will be mistaken for Trinity?

Dexter isn't old enough.

[Coral]

Originally Posted by Jeremy517

Dexter isn't old enough.

... yeah, that could be a problem as well.

[Blu Man]

Nice episode. Best of the season imo. Really like how Dexter is getting "close" to Trinitty.

Honestly, I don't want Dexter to kill him, I think he could learn a lot from Trinity and he might even fill the father figure that Dexter seems to need. I bet once Dexter discovers that it wasn't Trinity who killed Lundy and shot his sister, he might even grow to like him.

[Howiefan]

Originally Posted by Blu Man

Nice episode. Best of the season imo. Really like how Dexter is getting "close" to Trinitty.

Honestly, I don't want Dexter to kill him, I think he could learn a lot from Trinity and he might even fill the father figure that Dexter seems to need. I bet once Dexter discovers that it wasn't Trinity who killed Lundy and shot his sister, he might even grow to like him.

Never gonna happen since Trinity kills innocent people. Dexter would never accept that.

[Groucho]

Originally Posted by Coral

I always thought it was risky for Dexter to keep his trophies (blood samples) inside the air conditioner in his apartment. But keeping it and his other things in the shed (even if it is locked) seems extra risky. To think, Dexter didn't seem to have a problem with the shed being unlocked since it was Rita's idea to lock it up. Stuff like that should be hidden in the attic or in a secret spot under the floor boards or something.

The entire point of that whole thing was Dexter emulating Trinity and hiding stuff in plain site.

[Coral]

Originally Posted by Groucho

The entire point of that whole thing was Dexter emulating Trinity and hiding stuff in plain site.

Except what Trinity's "hiding" in plain site isn't really obvious to anyone unless they suspect him of being the Trinity Killer in the first place. A hammer in a garage and plaques on the living room wall doesn't scream "serial killer". Dexter's items are tools used for hacking up body parts and blood samples. And the items aren't out in the open anyways, he's still hiding them, just not very well. I wouldn't call that emulating Trinity.

[drak b]

Originally Posted by Howiefan

Never gonna happen since Trinity kills innocent people. Dexter would never accept that.

I'm not so sure. In the first season, he was ready to worship at the ITK's feet before he knew who he was. Sure, the ITK's victims might have been prostitutes but the guy was still killing innocent people. Although he got mad at Miguel for killing an innocent, I think that was more about Dexter the master wanting control over his apprentice and having Miguel listen and follow him so as not to be a liability to Dexter.

[bluetoast]

Speaking of the ITK, another thing is that Dexter never knew that his brother was the one that killed his father. Dexter had suspicions that his dad was murdered, but wasn't able to look at the body as it was cremated. Doubt if he'll ever know.

[celmendo]

Originally Posted by bluetoast

Speaking of the ITK, another thing is that Dexter never knew that his brother was the one that killed his father. Dexter had suspicions that his dad was murdered, but wasn't able to look at the body as it was cremated. Doubt if he'll ever know.

Wait, What? Did we know that from the show or have you read the books? It's been a while since season one so I totally could have forgotten that but I don't remember that at all. wow

[chrisih8u]

Originally Posted by celmendo

Wait, What? Did we know that from the show or have you read the books? It's been a while since season one so I totally could have forgotten that but I don't remember that at all. wow

It was on the show. ITK made it look like a heart attack. Remember that old lady recognized him as a cable repair man when they all took that trip to his house?

[Birrman54]

I'm pretty sure Harry committed suicide after he saw Dexter's 'work' in person.

[dvdhook]

He killed Dexter's biological father. It was back when Deb was still dating the ITK.