The Jay Leno Show -- Premieres 9/14/09 -- 5 nights a week/46 weeks a year - Page 6

Chew · 09-25-09, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ANDREMIKE

How did Leno do in ratings against Grey's Anatomy

Looks like it had it's lowest viewer total thus far. But, it didn't exactly have a strong lead-in either (5.36m down to 4.99m). It had more viewers than SNL though.

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NBC SNL Weekend Update Thursday 1.8/5 4.66
NBC Community 2.8/7 5.36

ABC Grey’s Anatomy (season premiere) 6.7/18 16.52
CBS The Mentalist (season premiere) 3.4/9 14.33
NBC The Jay Leno Show 1.7/5 4.99

Hokeyboy · 09-25-09, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Goose

SO, why is a dead and best forgotten character from 20 years ago being resurrected on a show on which NBC is putting its prime time hopes?

Personally, I think Leno should be "best forgotten" long before Pee-Wee Herman. But to answer your question: why the fuck not? He still has fans in their 20s through 40s who grew up watching his movies, appearances, stand-up, and/or Saturday morning shows -- prime demographic material.

And as an aside, "dead and best forgotten" maybe your malformed opinion, but some of us still like the dude.

stingermck · 10-07-09, 01:01 PM

Networks Snub Jay Leno

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t has been a little less than a month since Jay Leno made television history by bringing his Late Night style show to primetime. Mixed reviews and semi-decent ratings are not the biggest challenge facing Leno and the NBC team, it is the network boycott that is happening. Other networks such as CBS and ABC are discouraging their talent from appearing on the Jay Leno show. The snub is all about business; the other networks don't want to compete therefore they are doing whatever it takes to keep their talent off Leno, even if that means losing promoting of their TV show. Do you think it is fair that the other networks are trying to hold their talent off Jay Leno?

Last Tuesday, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, star of The New Adventures of Old Christine went against her bosses wishes and appeared on the primetime talk show. Louis-Dreyfus talked about the uncomfortable pressure she felt when she was deciding to appear on her long time friend's show. The star said, "Yes, there was a little pressure, because as you know you are now on prime time and I'm on a different network." Having history with Jay, the actress went on, had a blast, and even plugged her show on CBS.

To make way for Jay at 10pm many shows were up on the chopping block. ER finally ran its course after fifteen years and was saved the horror of renewal. Many other shows were not as lucky; Lipstick Jungle, My Name Is Earl, Kings, Knight Rider, and finally Medium, which was quickly picked up by CBS.

While Louis-Dreyfus crossed territoriy lines, many will not make the same move. John Wells, the executive producer of ER and The West Wing, was not as friendly as the primetime CBS star. Wells said, "We lost five hours' worth of time periods that have been known throughout the history of the network for putting some really terrific shows on." Bringing Jay on primetime cut five other shows, which have left many fans upset. Wells went on to say, "I wish NBC and Jay Leno well; personally, he's a very nice guy, but I hope he falls flat on his face and we get five dramas back."

nightwing82 · 10-07-09, 01:44 PM

I'd rather watch Leno than most of the dramas on any of the networks, let alone the poor selection NBC's had lately. Leno has plenty of NBC tv, cable tv, and movie stars to book. It doesn't matter if CBS and ABC tell their talent to ignore the show.

spamurai · 10-07-09, 02:11 PM

Lipstick Jungle, My Name Is Earl, Kings, Knight Rider, and finally Medium, which was quickly picked up by CBS.

*yawn*

I can't remember the last time I watched a drama (let alone any 1 hour show) on NBC so I could care less.

I watch Leno maybe 2 or 3 days a week and from what I've seen and seeing what the ratings have been like (5-7 mil a night), I think NBC made the right choice taking this show primetime.

siddd5 · 10-07-09, 02:20 PM

Anyone want to wager that Jay will once again host the 'Tonight Show' someday?

I'm not saying it'll happen tomorrow or next month, but if both shows continue to struggle, its gonna happen.

Drop · 10-07-09, 03:31 PM

Leno will never host Tonight Show again, ever. NBC seems very supportive of Conan, and Leno doesn't seem to care what happens one way or another.

wmansir · 10-07-09, 04:54 PM

Putting My Name is Earl on that list is strait up dishonest. As part of Thursday 8-10 comedy block it's fate had nothing to do with the Leno move at all.

Count Dooku · 10-07-09, 06:23 PM

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To make way for Jay at 10pm many shows were up on the chopping block. ER finally ran its course after fifteen years and was saved the horror of renewal. Many other shows were not as lucky; Lipstick Jungle, My Name Is Earl, Kings, Knight Rider, and finally Medium, which was quickly picked up by CBS.

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Originally Posted by wmansir

Putting My Name is Earl on that list is strait up dishonest. As part of Thursday 8-10 comedy block it's fate had nothing to do with the Leno move at all.

The cancellation of Kings and Knight Rider also had nothing to do with making way for Leno.
stingermck didn't identify where the story he quoted came from, but who ever wrote it didn't know what the hell they were talking about.

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Last Tuesday, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, star of The New Adventures of Old Christine went against her bosses wishes and appeared on the primetime talk show. Louis-Dreyfus talked about the uncomfortable pressure she felt when she was deciding to appear on her long time friend's show.

Plus, since JL-D's comments about being pressured not to go on Leno (literally) ended up being part of a planned comedy bit, I question the seriousness of those remarks, which the article's author accepts at face value.

calhoun07 · 10-07-09, 09:52 PM

Please. The only five hours of programing that got cut from NBC's schedule was about three hours of Deal or No Deal and two hours of Dateline or Law and Order. The more successful shows that aired at that time were bumped up to earlier slots, and the shows that went off the air ran their time. With maybe the exception of Earl, but I blame Parks and Recreation for the axing of that show more than I blame Leno.

I try to catch Leno when I can, at least for the monologue then I go walk the dog if there's no interesting guests come on. But I do think it's petty of the other networks to snub the show like this. Julia Louise, for example....so what if she goes on there to promote her show? It's not up against Leno at all. And in this day and age of digital recorders, the networks fail to understand or care that people can record one show and watch another one at the same time. Shoot, you could even do that in the days of VCRs. If somebody really wanted to watch Leno and catch a drama on another network, it's not hard for them to do so.

stingermck · 10-07-09, 11:50 PM

I found it linked on IMDB:

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni1053261/

http://news.tvstar.com/Article/252

Draven · 10-08-09, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by calhoun07

And in this day and age of digital recorders, the networks fail to understand or care that people can record one show and watch another one at the same time. Shoot, you could even do that in the days of VCRs. If somebody really wanted to watch Leno and catch a drama on another network, it's not hard for them to do so.

Do people still not understand that the networks hate DVRs? DVR-watchers skip the commercials, the commercials pay for the shows, the advertisers get pissed and pull their ads or demand lower rates (for fewer eyeballs) and shows get cancelled.

Anything that pulls a live viewer from one network to another is a bad thing for the network that lost the viewer, period.

Howie2000 · 10-08-09, 03:55 AM

I wonder how many flowers and thank you cards Jay Leno gets every day from people who work at ABC and CBS.

calhoun07 · 10-17-09, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Draven

Do people still not understand that the networks hate DVRs? DVR-watchers skip the commercials...

So did VCR watchers. If networks haven't figured out how to handle this conundrum in all this time, the viewer is not to blame.

MrX · 10-19-09, 05:06 PM

Interesting story on how Leno's ratings have hurt NBC affiliates nightly newscasts.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,1421138.story

MWB · 10-19-09, 05:37 PM

This thing is still on?

calhoun07 · 10-19-09, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MrX

Interesting story on how Leno's ratings have hurt NBC affiliates nightly newscasts.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,1421138.story

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To be sure, NBC has long argued that the ultimate test for "The Jay Leno Show" will come when he is up against reruns on the other networks.

Well, that sure sounds hopeful. "Maybe Leno will do better when nothing else is on to watch!"

OscarBluth · 10-20-09, 12:04 AM

This was a dumb move. They could easily leave it in place to prove they're not losing money since it doens't take as much to produce, but that's the national NBC piggy bank, not the local affilliates' profits.

If they didn't do this with Carson, there's absolutely no reason to do it with Leno. People who loved Carson really loved him, but people seem to just not dislike Jay. He's really not very funny, so it's not like this is actually an hour of comedy vs. dramas.

They need to get rid of Leno and Fallon, but they're not likely to admit they were both mistakes.

shaun3000 · 10-20-09, 12:59 AM

Carson retired on his own terms and didn’t want to do another show. Leno was forced out and NBC put him in the earlier slot to keep him from going to another network and competing with them. Not exactly a smart move but that’s what happened.

spamurai · 10-20-09, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by OscarBluth

They need to get rid of Leno and Fallon, but they're not likely to admit they were both mistakes.

What about Conan who's losing to both Letterman AND Nightline?

Leno was perfect for 11:30 and Conan was perfect for 12:30 (until Craig started beating him anyway) and NBC f'd it up by wanting to keep Conan happy even though Leno was destroying the competition. They only have themselves to blame for this ****storm and I'm glad it didn't pay off.

Darknite39 · 10-20-09, 02:46 AM

Hard to tell how he'd do without the Leno problem (presumably better). Regardless, please don't lump Coco in with Leno and Fallon (ugh). :P

spamurai · 10-20-09, 03:03 AM

BTW - I only watch Craig Ferguson since all the others pale in comparison so I'm not taking any sides in this matter and could care less. I just find it funny that NBC made one of worst moves in television history and they're paying the price for it. Who in their right mind would watch 3 talk shows back-to-back-to-back with the news sandwiched in there? Not to mention, the numbers for all their others show have gone in the toilet. Somebody better get fired for this.

wmansir · 10-20-09, 03:32 AM

Somebody already was fired, Ben Silverman.

ANDREMIKE · 10-20-09, 03:41 PM

I think its rediculous that he is on 5 nights a week. They should of just gave him 2 or 3 nights and put a really good drama in the other slots. Getting rid of Medium was stupid...

Quatermass · 10-20-09, 04:23 PM

IMO, Conan would get higher ratings if Leno was not on. I end up watching Leno fairly often due to lack of anything better being on and by the time Conan comes on, I'm sick of talk shows. On top of that, NBC unfairly screwed Conan by keeping Leno the "Flagship", so that Leno's guests are on Conan the following night, pitching the same movie and telling the same jokes. Conan is relegated to being a second-string rerun of Leno.

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nightwing82 DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,145	Re: The Jay Leno Show -- Premieres 9/14/09 -- 5 nights a week/46 weeks a year I'd rather watch Leno than most of the dramas on any of the networks, let alone the poor selection NBC's had lately. Leno has plenty of NBC tv, cable tv, and movie stars to book. It doesn't matter if CBS and ABC tell their talent to ignore the show. __________________ comic book hero

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spamurai Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 82	Re: The Jay Leno Show -- Premieres 9/14/09 -- 5 nights a week/46 weeks a year Lipstick Jungle, My Name Is Earl, Kings, Knight Rider, and finally Medium, which was quickly picked up by CBS. yawn I can't remember the last time I watched a drama (let alone any 1 hour show) on NBC so I could care less. I watch Leno maybe 2 or 3 days a week and from what I've seen and seeing what the ratings have been like (5-7 mil a night), I think NBC made the right choice taking this show primetime.

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siddd5 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 143	Re: The Jay Leno Show -- Premieres 9/14/09 -- 5 nights a week/46 weeks a year Anyone want to wager that Jay will once again host the 'Tonight Show' someday? I'm not saying it'll happen tomorrow or next month, but if both shows continue to struggle, its gonna happen.

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Drop DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: May 2001 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 1,691	Re: The Jay Leno Show -- Premieres 9/14/09 -- 5 nights a week/46 weeks a year Leno will never host Tonight Show again, ever. NBC seems very supportive of Conan, and Leno doesn't seem to care what happens one way or another. __________________ The truth of a thing is the feel of it, not the think of it. - Stanley Kubrick My DVD Collection Wii Friend Code: 5543 8041 1219 6459 Xbox Live GamerTag:TheBooglarizer 2009 Horror Movie Challenge

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wmansir DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Land of the Lobstrosities Posts: 5,876	Re: The Jay Leno Show -- Premieres 9/14/09 -- 5 nights a week/46 weeks a year Putting My Name is Earl on that list is strait up dishonest. As part of Thursday 8-10 comedy block it's fate had nothing to do with the Leno move at all. __________________ wes

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calhoun07 DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,798	Re: The Jay Leno Show -- Premieres 9/14/09 -- 5 nights a week/46 weeks a year Please. The only five hours of programing that got cut from NBC's schedule was about three hours of Deal or No Deal and two hours of Dateline or Law and Order. The more successful shows that aired at that time were bumped up to earlier slots, and the shows that went off the air ran their time. With maybe the exception of Earl, but I blame Parks and Recreation for the axing of that show more than I blame Leno. I try to catch Leno when I can, at least for the monologue then I go walk the dog if there's no interesting guests come on. But I do think it's petty of the other networks to snub the show like this. Julia Louise, for example....so what if she goes on there to promote her show? It's not up against Leno at all. And in this day and age of digital recorders, the networks fail to understand or care that people can record one show and watch another one at the same time. Shoot, you could even do that in the days of VCRs. If somebody really wanted to watch Leno and catch a drama on another network, it's not hard for them to do so. __________________ You can only please a woman with a dick made out of chocolate that ejaculates money.-Rhemus Windowless vans do NOT have candy, only rape.

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Howie2000 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 57	Re: The Jay Leno Show -- Premieres 9/14/09 -- 5 nights a week/46 weeks a year I wonder how many flowers and thank you cards Jay Leno gets every day from people who work at ABC and CBS.

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10-20-09, 12:04 AM	#143
OscarBluth Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 443	Re: The Jay Leno Show -- Premieres 9/14/09 -- 5 nights a week/46 weeks a year This was a dumb move. They could easily leave it in place to prove they're not losing money since it doens't take as much to produce, but that's the national NBC piggy bank, not the local affilliates' profits. If they didn't do this with Carson, there's absolutely no reason to do it with Leno. People who loved Carson really loved him, but people seem to just not dislike Jay. He's really not very funny, so it's not like this is actually an hour of comedy vs. dramas. They need to get rid of Leno and Fallon, but they're not likely to admit they were both mistakes. __________________ John Hancock Susie!

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shaun3000 DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 7,402	Re: The Jay Leno Show -- Premieres 9/14/09 -- 5 nights a week/46 weeks a year Carson retired on his own terms and didn’t want to do another show. Leno was forced out and NBC put him in the earlier slot to keep him from going to another network and competing with them. Not exactly a smart move but that’s what happened.

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spamurai Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 82	Re: The Jay Leno Show -- Premieres 9/14/09 -- 5 nights a week/46 weeks a year BTW - I only watch Craig Ferguson since all the others pale in comparison so I'm not taking any sides in this matter and could care less. I just find it funny that NBC made one of worst moves in television history and they're paying the price for it. Who in their right mind would watch 3 talk shows back-to-back-to-back with the news sandwiched in there? Not to mention, the numbers for all their others show have gone in the toilet. Somebody better get fired for this.

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Quatermass DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Upright, in a cool, dry place Posts: 2,575	Re: The Jay Leno Show -- Premieres 9/14/09 -- 5 nights a week/46 weeks a year IMO, Conan would get higher ratings if Leno was not on. I end up watching Leno fairly often due to lack of anything better being on and by the time Conan comes on, I'm sick of talk shows. On top of that, NBC unfairly screwed Conan by keeping Leno the "Flagship", so that Leno's guests are on Conan the following night, pitching the same movie and telling the same jokes. Conan is relegated to being a second-string rerun of Leno.