True Blood -- "Scratches" -- 06/28/09 - Page 3

Giantrobo · 07-05-09, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by John Slider

Why does everybody assume that he glamored the girl to let him in? Just because he encouraged her, and even somewhat ordered her? She didn't look to be under any kind of spell to me. She may have been frightened, and did it because she was scared, but I don't think he glamored her. He couldn't have, as per the 'rules'.

I think it's pretty clear he Glamored the little girl. She was scared and only lost that fear after he focused on her. By that I mean she would not have let him in if he hadn't Glamored her.

bdshort · 07-05-09, 07:41 PM

I dunno, I was thinking about it the other day, and I think he's been around long enough, he knows how to influence what some people do without resorting to Jedi mind tricks.

Then again, it could have been the writers forgetting their own rules!

dave94 · 07-06-09, 02:09 AM

I took it that the little girl just trusted that he was going to stop Jessica from killing her father, or at least end the confrontation. There even seemed to be an undertone of her father being somewhat violent so maybe she wanted Bill to hurt him.

brizz · 07-07-09, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bdshort

I dunno, I was thinking about it the other day, and I think he's been around long enough, he knows how to influence what some people do without resorting to Jedi mind tricks.

Then again, it could have been the writers forgetting their own rules!

remember when he made the cop give him his gun after pulling him over in S1? he is well versed in glamoring.

Nogura · 07-07-09, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by brizz

remember when he made the cop give him his gun after pulling him over in S1? he is well versed in glamoring.

That may actually prove the point. Remember how the cop responded to everything in a monotone and just did exactly what Bill told him to do? If you compare that to the girl, she wasn't responding in a monotone and was asking Bill questions in regards to what he asked.

kaze0 · 07-07-09, 09:43 AM

Since someone mentioned that the bullwolf looking thing was a minotaur I'm starting to think it may be Marianne or the pig? I always felt like she had a greek goddess-like look with her clothes and house. Assuming the poison scratch can control people, it would also explain why Daphne visited Merlotte at the end of the ep.

Tommy Ceez · 07-07-09, 10:52 AM

Look

The vampire cannot enter the house unless invited and remember bill told sookie in S1 that he cannot enter if he forces her to invite him in

Giantrobo · 07-07-09, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez

Look

The vampire cannot enter the house unless invited and remember bill told sookie in S1 that he cannot enter if he forces her to invite him in

Then I guess the writers fucked up.

Baron Of Hell · 07-07-09, 08:27 PM

Maybe the jedi mind trick isn't considered force. Maybe it is more of a powerful seduction.

John Slider · 07-07-09, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo

Then I guess the writers fucked up.

Then I guess people just look for reasons to say that the writers fucked up. It is just as valid to say the girl was scared into inviting him in as it is to say he glamored her. The biggest difference is that they have already stated that he cannot glamor someone into inviting him in. That being said, the viewer should infer that the girl was so scared that she just invited him in because he told her to and she just wanted it to all stop, not because he glamored her, because we know that is impossible.

tasha99 · 07-07-09, 09:36 PM

I thought it was pretty clear that he scared her into letting him enter. Then he glamored them all after he got in.

Tommy Ceez · 07-07-09, 10:04 PM

Yeah

people are actually using assumptions not layed out in the script to prove the writers fucked up

Giantrobo · 07-08-09, 03:14 AM

Whatever. I'm going with Glamored little girl. Ya'll can go with whatever the fuck you want.

Gunde · 07-08-09, 07:04 AM

Yep. Glamored. Anyone saying otherwise is wrong

If he was only trying to scare her to let him in, it was a piss poor scare

spainlinx0 · 07-08-09, 09:45 AM

Did he say he couldn't glamour someone to let him in, or he couldn't force someone?

skatefan20 · 07-12-09, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo

Maryann...Supernatural Party Planner, Pig Handler, Big Eater, Self powered Vibrator, Orgy coordinator, and expert Joint Roller.

She's built an impressive resume.

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Originally Posted by FantasticVSDoom

I didnt like Jessica at first, but now I really do...

After their Chicken and Steak date, I'm on the Hoyt & Jessica go courting bandwagon...if they could only get past her maker and his mom...

Another top notch eppy.

07-05-09, 07:41 PM	#52
bdshort DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: The Last Frontier Posts: 3,655	Re: True Blood -- "Scratches" -- 06/28/09 I dunno, I was thinking about it the other day, and I think he's been around long enough, he knows how to influence what some people do without resorting to Jedi mind tricks. Then again, it could have been the writers forgetting their own rules! __________________ PSN: bdshort

07-06-09, 02:09 AM	#53
dave94 Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 84	Re: True Blood -- "Scratches" -- 06/28/09 I took it that the little girl just trusted that he was going to stop Jessica from killing her father, or at least end the confrontation. There even seemed to be an undertone of her father being somewhat violent so maybe she wanted Bill to hurt him.

07-07-09, 09:43 AM	#56
kaze0 DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 1,285	Re: True Blood -- "Scratches" -- 06/28/09 Since someone mentioned that the bullwolf looking thing was a minotaur I'm starting to think it may be Marianne or the pig? I always felt like she had a greek goddess-like look with her clothes and house. Assuming the poison scratch can control people, it would also explain why Daphne visited Merlotte at the end of the ep.

07-07-09, 10:52 AM	#57
Tommy Ceez DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Capitol of the Empire! Center of all Commerce and Culture! Crossroads of Civilization! NEW ROME!!!...aka New York City Posts: 9,682	Re: True Blood -- "Scratches" -- 06/28/09 Look The vampire cannot enter the house unless invited and remember bill told sookie in S1 that he cannot enter if he forces her to invite him in __________________ Tommy Ceez may or may not be a moron, but he's OUR possible moron - El Scorcho

07-07-09, 08:27 PM	#59
Baron Of Hell DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Seattle and sometimes hell Posts: 3,249	Re: True Blood -- "Scratches" -- 06/28/09 Maybe the jedi mind trick isn't considered force. Maybe it is more of a powerful seduction. __________________ "Truth has become unacceptable and dissent unpatriotic" PS3 Tag: Baron-Of-Hell Steam: Baron_Of_Hell SSBB: 4425-3985-1734 TWITTER: BaronOfHell

07-07-09, 09:36 PM	#61
tasha99 DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 4,337	Re: True Blood -- "Scratches" -- 06/28/09 I thought it was pretty clear that he scared her into letting him enter. Then he glamored them all after he got in.

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Tommy Ceez DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Capitol of the Empire! Center of all Commerce and Culture! Crossroads of Civilization! NEW ROME!!!...aka New York City Posts: 9,682	Re: True Blood -- "Scratches" -- 06/28/09 Yeah people are actually using assumptions not layed out in the script to prove the writers fucked up __________________ Tommy Ceez may or may not be a moron, but he's OUR possible moron - El Scorcho

07-08-09, 03:14 AM	#63
Giantrobo DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: TORRANCE, CA Posts: 41,412	Re: True Blood -- "Scratches" -- 06/28/09 Whatever. I'm going with Glamored little girl. Ya'll can go with whatever the fuck you want. __________________ XBOX Gamertag: Giantrobo On my 3rd 360 as of 9/27/2007

07-08-09, 07:04 AM	#64
Gunde DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Very far away.. Posts: 1,656	Re: True Blood -- "Scratches" -- 06/28/09 Yep. Glamored. Anyone saying otherwise is wrong If he was only trying to scare her to let him in, it was a piss poor scare __________________ I have nothing to say

07-08-09, 09:45 AM	#65
spainlinx0 DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: NJ Posts: 9,150	Re: True Blood -- "Scratches" -- 06/28/09 Did he say he couldn't glamour someone to let him in, or he couldn't force someone? __________________ 360: Scorpy Gkar