Lone Wolf

I'm halfway through season 7 of Buffy and I've had a few questions on my mind.

1. What's with the lack of Giles? Was Anthony Stewart Head ready to leave the show? Because he seems to pop up every couple of episodes.

2. There was never an episode where Andrew had demons attack the play or whatever happened was there? I don't remember him from before and I'm guessing that's all part of the joke of nobody else remembering him either.

3. This one is really driving me crazy. Buffy died and came back at the beginning of season 6. Why isn't there a 3rd slayer in play now? I read somewhere that the slayer lineage was passed on to Faith so it would have to be Faith to die for another slayer to be chosen. But Buffy keeps telling the potentials that when she dies one of them will be chosen. I guess Buffy could just be wrong but I hate that it has never been addressed at all. I kept waiting for someone to bring it up during season 6 but it never happened. I started expecting Giles to show up with a 3rd slayer but that never happened either.

Just a few things I've been wondering about. Damn I'm gonna miss Buffy and Angel when I finish these.

xVladx

I believe that during S6, he went off to do something else (plays, maybe? I don't remember for sure). As far as S7 goes, I personally found it to be written rather sloppily, and a lot of his coming and going has to do mainly with a plot mystery that the writers attempted to pull off:

I think that was part of the joke. Unlike Warren and Jonathan, Andrew's a bit of a nobody to the viewers, which is meant to heighten his status as a nobody to the other characters.

I personally chalk it up to odd writing. Unfortunately, the seventh season of the show is more than a little sloppy. It's easier to watch on DVD, without several weeks between episodes, but the first time around was rough. Thing is, the fact that nobody was called after she died at the end of S5 is the reason why people have settled on the idea that the line runs through Faith now.

Just a few things I've been wondering about. Damn I'm gonna miss Buffy and Angel when I finish these.[/QUOTE]

sb5

1. Tony Head wanted to spend more time with his family in the UK after Season 5, so his role was reduced to guest star (despite the fact that Giles leaving Sunnydale in Season 6 at a time when both Buffy and Willow needed him the most didn't make sense, but I digress).

2. Yeah, it's part of the joke.

3. I always assumed that the Buffy line ended (going to Kendra, and then Faith) when she "died" at the end of Season 1, which his why her death in S5 didn't call a new slayer, but I'm not sure why Buffy told the Potentials that.

Nick Martin

Actually, Andrew was the brother of the guy who sent hell hounds to attack anyone in formal wear at the Sunnydale prom, in the season 3 episode titled (naturally) "The Prom". At least that's what someone said about who he was....that's as close to an origin as they got.

Some episode in season 6 mentions that, can't remember which one.

JasonF

Originally, the trio was meant to include Brad Kane's character, Tucker Wells -- as Nick Martin says, he was the character who summoned hellhounds to attack the prom. But for whatever reason, they couldn't agree on a contract with Kane, so they hired Tom Lenk and created Andrew (Tucker's younger brother) to be the third member of the trio. As Vlad and sb5 note, it's part of the joke that they keep referring to his backstory as a villain who was so unmemorable and pathetic that it didn't actually make it into an episode and that nobody remembers.

Lone Wolf

Thanks for the fast replies. The Faith stuff makes sense but it still should have been explained. It would actually make more sense if she had lost her powers after she first died and Kendra became a slayer but then there wouldn't have been a show. Oh well, this show has been great so I'll let this slide.

wendersfan

I think that was the point, plot-wise.
Yes. A slayer gets one replacement. Kendra was Buffy's.

James Lafleur

Yeah Anthony Head definitely needed more screentime in Seasons 6 and 7, but I see what the writers were trying to accomplish with it. And you can't deny how amazingly well-played his return is in Season 6. "I'd like to test that theory."
One of the best Buffy endings of all time!

sb5

Oh yeah, his return was great, but still, losing him for the majority of the season hurt the show quite a bit, imo.

James Lafleur

I agree, at least for season 7. I'm in the minority that season 6 is my favorite season next to season 2, even with the lack of Giles.
I wish they'd buckle down and finally make the 'Ripper' movie/tv show, but I don't think it will ever happen.

Nick Martin

The show officially ended for me with Buffy's death at the end of season 5.

Xander

Yeah, it was Tony Head wanting to spend more time at home that caused the "him returning to England" plotline in S6 and "he might be an agent of the First so don't show him much" one in S7.

Yes, they never showed Andrew's flying monkeys attacking the play. All part of the "no one remembers you" gag.

Buffy's not officially part of the Slayer line any more. She died (for a minute) and Kendra was called. Kendra died and Faith was called. There wouldn't be a new Slayer until Faith dies.

S7 ending spoiler

rfduncan

Technically they are "potentials", but you are correct.

Xander

Nick Martin

As proven in ANGEL season 5 - "Damage".

riley_dude

I agree, that is except for OMWF.

Nick Martin

To this day, I have never watched that episode from beginning to end.

I loathe musicals, and I have never been able to sit through the whole thing. I suppose I never will.

Bateman

Same here. I tried a few times but there was no way in hell I was making it through that so I just checked an episode summary online.

Nick Martin

And to add to that, I'll make it clear that it's all musicals. I remember that musical number in Clerks II. That was a very unpleasant surprise.

Bateman

Another same here. I am fairly broad with the types of movies I will watch but am almost instantly irritated by any musical / musical number. It has been a while since I have seen Clerks II but think I might have skipped forward once a song broke out.

riley_dude

Such a great episode. I guess you will never know what you are missing.

Bateman

From what I have read, the some probably applies to me with Whedon's Dr. Horrible.

Nick Martin

I've seen enough to know full well what I'm missing, and I'm happy to miss it.

I enjoyed Giles singing the various plot lines in concert in the season 4 finale. At the same time, watching performances like that (the various Bronze gigs, the karaoke songs at Caritas on ANGEL) aren't the same thing.

madcougar

There were actually two more seasons on UPN. Maybe you didn't get UPN where ever you were at at the time. They're available on DVD.

madcougar

I quite enjoyed OMWF but I feel you. My absolute least favorite episode of Scrubs is the musical one.