movieking

I didn't think that they got the money, only the jobs and benefits.

DJariya

Just finished watching this on Hulu. Great episode. Who would have thought that Michael could be such a hard ball negotiator? I really liked the fact that he was looking out for Pam and Ryan. Looking forward to seeing what transpires with Pam as a salesman.

When David made the offer of $60K and Michael turned around and asked for their jobs back and David said that was way too much.....He said something along the lines of Millions? That was a little bit of an exagerration. I mean what would Michael's salary be $100K a year tops? Pam and Ryan would probably make what $50-60K a year? With benefits and stock options etc, what are we talking under $500K total for all 3 combined? But overall, it was a much smarter move by Michael.

I do agree that no sane company would re-hire someone like Ryan.

I don't think Charles got fired as some of you are assuming. Isn't he just going back to the corporate office?

kstublen

I agree that a real-life CFO would probably not give Ryan his job back, but I can absolutely believe one giving Michael his job back. Michael was a loyal employee for what, 15 years? He was the only branch in the area to thrive and was constantly earning money for the company. He even chose the company over Jan at one point. I think deep down, before Michael quit, David realized that they did treat Michael like crap and that he deserved more. After his leaving and hurting sales, I can see them wanting him back. Just like porieux said:

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That was one of the funniest parts of the episode. Dwight took it so seriously and turned to Charles as if to suggest, "Can you believe Jim?"

I think you're right. He still has a job with Dunder Mifflin (Jan's former position). He was only staying at the office until they found Michael's replacement. He was leaving because that isn't where he is stationed. He is still Michael's boss though, at least that's what I got out of it.

JoeyOhhhh

When Michael said something to the effect of the company being worth nothing, I thought he completely blew the meeting with Wallace, thankfully they didn't go that route.

Pretty interesting turn of events that I'm pleased with.

maingon

David was talking about the cost over time, and I doubt Micheal makes even close to 100 grand. Hes probably more around 50 and Pam and Ryan will probably be low 30 grand a year if that

NitroJMS

Pam as a receptionist probably made $25-30k a year plus benefits. Ryan was a temp most of the time so he probably got paid like $10 or so hourly and no benefits.

I'd guess Michael had a base salary of around $50-60k, but he does bonus on his branch's performance.

EdTheRipper

I just watched this on Hulu. Awesome episode...loved it.

Vipper II

I absolutely loved the looks on Michael's face when he was describing the other scenario to David about the stockholders' meeting coming up and then again when the camera slowly zoomed in on face when he rejected the 60k offer. You just knew Michael knew what he was doing.

maingon

first deleted scene, pretty funny, Micheal goes to the wrong office

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second deleted scene

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one from The Micheal Scott Paper Company episode which was pretty good

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TruGator

Loved that last one!

fumanstan

Yeah, we know Michael doesn't make very much given Darryl's reaction to seeing his pay check before.

Jack Straw

I believe they switched back with last week's episode as well.

Jack Straw

But doesn't doing so adversely affect the short-term bottom line?

kstublen

You forget though, Michael got a pretty decent raise immediately thereafter.

GoldenJCJ

Wasn't there a scene in one of the previous episodes right after Michael got the idea to start the MSPC where he asked Pam for help on designing a logo but when she started to get excited and make suggestions Michael just wanted to cut and paste a small piece of paper over the Dunder-Mifflin logo? Maybe Pam figured it wasn't worth the effort after she saw Michael half-ass it.

Jack Straw

Wallace's negotiating point about paying all the salaries misses the point. It's not just a question of how much salary he draws, but on the flip side how much sales revenue he contributes as a result of his being employed there. It's got to be a net positive for DM or else he wouldn't have been employed there all those years.

Jimmy James

By the same token, that only applies to Michael's job. There might be some flexibility on number of salesmen since DM did not replace the people who quit due to Michael's post-consolidation behavior, but it has to hurt to take on two surplus people in a downturn like this will require.

devilshalo

Well, I think it will be interesting also that the clients that Michael took away from DM will now have to come back to DM and knowing that Michael is back in charge. That should prove a great deal harder to gain trusting relationships. I think it'd be funny if there's a blowout between Michael and Dwight that Dwight starts the Dwight Schrute Paper Co. just to spite Michael.

Mr. Salty

I think people are way over-analyzing a sitcom.

The paper would be made from beet fiber rather than wood pulp.

zekeburger1979

With Ryan mentioning that he went to Ft. Lauderdale, not Thailand and refusing the champagne from Pam makes me think that he went to an alcohol rehab facility, not vacation.

Charles put all of his money on Dwigt and it bit him in the ass. Ha Ha!

How funny was it when Michael was teasing Jim about morning wood and the camera zooms in?

Pam in stockings:

Bill Needle

Michael: "There is no way in hell that I am going to say that we're broke."
Elevator doors close. Elevator doors re-open.
Michael: (bent over, panicking) "Ooh...I'm really worried that going to say it..."

Not to mention now that anytime something unexplained happens in my house I will simply state: Mose in socks. Case closed.

SpinalGuffman

Loved this episode, and the last one. Both provided more water cooler quotables than most episodes this season.

I think this season has been the most uneven. The Dwight / Michael dynamic has been a little unbelievable. Dwight's transistion from sycophant to rival has been hard to watch at times. Not that it couldn't have happened within the show's framework, I just didn't believe how they did it.

I wonder how those two will get back to any kind of relationship. It would be funny to open an episode with Dwight mowing Michels lawn ... a load of button down shirts drying on a clothesline in the background. Micheal could turn to the camera, smile, and say, "Two years."

I hope Charles sticks around on the show somehow. And I hope the secondary cast gets more involved again.

NiCK Crush

please please please beat out 30 Rock at the Emmy's next year.

harrydoyle

Not really sure why Charles is in there for so little? I thought he was going to stick around for awhile and I thought that Michael Scott company was going to be around longer than 3 episodes.

Hope David hires Charles to be somewhere up the ladder and he's going to continue to bother Scranton. Although I thought this would be the case with Karen in Uttica, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

GreenVulture

Charles was acting manager at Scranton only until a replacement was found. And since Michael is back, Charles can now go back to Corporate and be a general overseer of all the branches, much like Jan was.