Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
02-26-09, 09:48 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
Maybe he didn't know about Eloise. I'm guessing that based on his reaction when Locke mentioned it to him, he seemed shocked that Locke knew it and acted like that's all he needed Locke for anyway.
02-26-09, 09:54 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
Another mental patient saw Charlie. This time he asked one of the workers if they saw Locke.
02-26-09, 09:54 AM
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I also agree with Jack being the true leader. Locke is kind of like a preacher or something, but Jack is the real leader of the bunch.
02-26-09, 09:55 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
We paused briefly on the scene of the neon hotel sign where Locke was living - and eventually dying -
and the lit letters seemed like an anagram, maybe "we lost life".
Definitely "lost" and "life", but since we were eager to watch the rest of the ep we gave up.
A screencap would be helpful.
[edit because I found one!]
On further review, not quite what we thought it was originally
Here it is:
and the lit letters seemed like an anagram, maybe "we lost life".
Definitely "lost" and "life", but since we were eager to watch the rest of the ep we gave up.
A screencap would be helpful.
[edit because I found one!]
On further review, not quite what we thought it was originally
Here it is:
fortells with
erstwhile loft
fell worthiest
frees with toll
fewer shit toll
02-26-09, 09:59 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
Widmore said he was the leader for 30 years until he was exiled by Ben so sometime in the 50's through the 80's. I'm sure he and Ellie (Eloise) were together at some point making them Daniel's parents. Which also means that Faraday was born on the island.
02-26-09, 10:02 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
Does anybody else think that Ben went to Locke with the purpose to kill him? I mean, who else shows up with gloves, glass cleaner, and a towel for a friendly call?
02-26-09, 10:05 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
02-26-09, 10:14 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
What about Penny? Was she born on the Island as well?
And i believe the plane crashed on the smaller island, not the main island, hence the Hydra station.
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02-26-09, 10:19 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
Ok, here's my theory... Christian Shepherd was on the island before - and Jack was born on the island, too. For some reason Christian leaves the island and eventually loses his marbles just like... Jack loses his marbles after leaving the island. Perhaps Christian is also trying to get back to the island and uses the "dead on an airplane" trick that Locke apparently also used. I think it's strange that both times Jack appears on the island it's in basically the same fashion - wakes up in the jungle. What are the odds of that happening? Obviously this theory needs a lot of work...
02-26-09, 10:22 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
[QUOTE=goofee girl;9292953]Anagrams that exclude the unlit letters include:
fortells with
erstwhile loft
fell worthiest
frees with toll
fewer shit toll
fortells with
erstwhile loft
fell worthiest
frees with toll
fewer shit toll
02-26-09, 10:30 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
All this talk about who was or was not born on the island got me thinking. Wouldn't it be funny if on the last episode we find out that
Spoiler:
02-26-09, 10:41 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
Ah, yes. Yet another episode of convoluted, nonsensical dross. If Shyamalan came up with this stuff he'd be shunned into oblivion with all the criticisms of implausibility and excessive plot-holes.
Still arguably the best show on television, however.
Still arguably the best show on television, however.
02-26-09, 10:42 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
I know this might sound dumb and it prob is but. Ben always knew Locke had to go back to the island right? I know when Locke mentioned Hawings Ben looked surprised and killed him. But then why go through that if the guy was just about to kill himself. Could it be that the island cannot course correct suicide? Its a big no no in religious circles and the show does have aspects of that built into it.
And I also think Ben and Widmore are neither good or bad. Remember last season episode when they talk. I love that scene. You can see half their faces in dark and the other with light, for both of them. That for me was the clue about them.
02-26-09, 10:44 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
Other anagrams:
Tit Owl, Herself
Flee Low Thirst
Feller Shit Two
as well as:
Lost Wheel Rift
Lost Few Hitler (!)
Tit Owl, Herself
Flee Low Thirst
Feller Shit Two
as well as:
Lost Wheel Rift
Lost Few Hitler (!)
02-26-09, 10:46 AM
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Agreed on both points. When the show is cogent, it's awesome.
02-26-09, 11:04 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
Locke did pick the compass. It was between a book and a knife, and Richard got upset when Locke chose the knife over the book.
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
Penny and Daniel could've been born on the island but they would've needed to be taken off quickly as babies to survive. Taken to England. Charlotte, I believe was born (in 1979) off-island and brought there around 1980 and raised by the Changs. Sometime in the '80's is when Daniel travels back and warns her not to come back to the island. Perhaps October 26, 1985. <--- 
02-26-09, 11:15 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
Ok, here's my theory... Christian Shepherd was on the island before - and Jack was born on the island, too. For some reason Christian leaves the island and eventually loses his marbles just like... Jack loses his marbles after leaving the island. Perhaps Christian is also trying to get back to the island and uses the "dead on an airplane" trick that Locke apparently also used. I think it's strange that both times Jack appears on the island it's in basically the same fashion - wakes up in the jungle. What are the odds of that happening? Obviously this theory needs a lot of work...
02-26-09, 11:17 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
I didn't like it quite as much as I thought. Here's my question:
- How long is the time span between Ben killing Lock and his meeting with Jack at the Flash Forward funeral parlor? Because from what they showed last night, Jack looked like he was Sober Jack. But in the funeral parlor, he was raggedy, pill poppin' Jack. I don't think he turns from one to the other in just a couple of days right?
- How long is the time span between Ben killing Lock and his meeting with Jack at the Flash Forward funeral parlor? Because from what they showed last night, Jack looked like he was Sober Jack. But in the funeral parlor, he was raggedy, pill poppin' Jack. I don't think he turns from one to the other in just a couple of days right?
02-26-09, 11:21 AM
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Re: Lost -- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" -- 2/25/09
I didn't like it quite as much as I thought. Here's my question:
- How long is the time span between Ben killing Lock and his meeting with Jack at the Flash Forward funeral parlor? Because from what they showed last night, Jack looked like he was Sober Jack. But in the funeral parlor, he was raggedy, pill poppin' Jack. I don't think he turns from one to the other in just a couple of days right?
- How long is the time span between Ben killing Lock and his meeting with Jack at the Flash Forward funeral parlor? Because from what they showed last night, Jack looked like he was Sober Jack. But in the funeral parlor, he was raggedy, pill poppin' Jack. I don't think he turns from one to the other in just a couple of days right?
02-26-09, 11:25 AM
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I was thinking this same thing. John couldn't kill himself to get back to the island as goes the same belief with Christians getting into Heaven. As this season especially appears to have religious ties, I thought this could not be a mere coincidence. I wonder if when John confronts Ben, his response will be a simple "You're welcome".