Smallville -- "Legion" -- 1/15/09 - Page 3

riley_dude · 01-17-09, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelWill

I thought this episode was horrible to the point of being barely watchable. I was expecting some Doomsday pounding and I got three dorks with rings, evil Chloe with her evil voice, Lana whining about something or another, and an Astaroth cameo.

If you want Doomsday pounding every episode, there will be no one left by the end of the season.
If he can kill Superman, he can kill everyone.

comanche_doyle · 01-17-09, 10:00 PM

Can Doomsday be killed permanently? I hated the red-headed kid, the other two are okay. I read the spoilers and Lois isn't going to be around much the next three or four weeks. And just when things were getting good with her and Clark. Chloe getting back her memories of Clark's abilities was nice. I wonder why there was no reference to the bald guy at the end of the episode before the break. Is Lana's secret that she is holding Lex captive trying to erase his memories of Clark? Can't wait for next week.

mrhan · 01-18-09, 05:58 PM

I didn't like their take on Lightning Lad 'cause I don't remember him being goofy in the comics books but it was cool seeing the Legion. It's a plus they used the 3 original members and no pink costume for Cosmic Boy.

whotony · 01-18-09, 07:06 PM

fortunecity pics dont appear to work.

mikehunt · 01-18-09, 09:11 PM

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Glad they realized that it was a bad idea to take away Chloe's memory of Clark.

totally agree

Hitte · 01-20-09, 12:49 PM

Fail.

The legion was send to rescue Clark..

How can they even exist if Clark would have died without their help?
That fails so hard..

Without the legion brainiac would have won.

"If Brainiac isnt defeated we have no future to go back to" ---

Seriously it so wrong..
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1. Clark dies --->Brainiac wins, =no legion will ever be formed. === There is no good future and no legion to send back to aid Clark.

The story fails.. Cant be like that.

Chew · 01-20-09, 01:10 PM

Is this your first temporal paradox?

Michael Corvin · 01-20-09, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SPRBD

Imagine if they had gotten the woman who played Phantom Girl to have played Supergirl instead!! I hate the Supergirl actress and loved this new one! To bad she probably won't be back.

Gawd no. Smallville reached a new low with the casting of Saturn girl, or whatever her name is. Hands down the worst acting performance of the entire show's run... and this is Smallville we're talking about, pretty hard to take that crown, but somehow she did with flying colors. She talks like she has a permanent swollen tongue AND a new set of teeth that she isn't quite used to yet. They could have also tacked on a lisp and a stutter and it would barely be noticeably different. Plus she isn't even cute. At least Vandervoort has her looks going for her.

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The Legion characters seemed a little goofy to me, especially the kid who has the fascination with Kal-El. But, I did enjoy them in this episode.

I have no ties to the comic, but I welcome anything they throw at us as long as it works. The Legion did not work. Three teenage dorks, none of which could act their way out of a paper bag, are sent back to help Clark?

I'm sure it may have been orgasm-worthy for a comic book fan, but they could have just written in Oliver to save the day instead. These three tools served no purpose other than to toss out some "inside jokes/teases" about Clark's future. Terribly lame.

The only redeeming thing about the episode was Chloe regaining her memory. Sure it's the traditional "Smallville reboot" on a character, but it's Chloe we are talking about.

Patman · 01-20-09, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitte

Fail.

The legion was send to rescue Clark..

How can they even exist if Clark would have died without their help?
That fails so hard..

Without the legion brainiac would have won.

"If Brainiac isnt defeated we have no future to go back to" ---

Seriously it so wrong..
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1. Clark dies --->Brainiac wins, =no legion will ever be formed. === There is no good future and no legion to send back to aid Clark.

The story fails.. Cant be like that.

Let's hope you never watch Terminator: The Sarah Connors Chronicles...

riley_dude · 01-20-09, 01:19 PM

The thought the three actors playing the Legion were quite good.

blued888 · 01-20-09, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chew

Is this your first temporal paradox?

I couldn't decipher what he posted.

jjcool · 01-20-09, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dvd-4-life

Are we going to have a Legion of Doom episode?

As in Hawk and Animal?

dvd-4-life · 01-20-09, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jjcool

As in Hawk and Animal?

The Road Warriors stole the name Legion of Doom from the Superfriends animated series. I remember watching Hawk and Animal wrestle one time and a fan held up a sign reading-Legion of Dumb.

dvd-4-life · 01-20-09, 03:16 PM

We need some major league baddies to fill Smallville with no-goodness. How bout an episode where a blizzard hits Smallville and it turns out it was caused by Mr. Freeze and Capt. Cold. Or you could have an episode where an ape escapes from The Metropolis Zoo and it so happened to be Gorillla Grood.

Michael Corvin · 01-20-09, 03:31 PM

Personally I think it would be nice to see Clark save someone other than Lois, Lana, Jimmy or Chloe for a change.

devilshalo · 01-20-09, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

I have no ties to the comic, but I welcome anything they throw at us as long as it works. The Legion did not work. Three teenage dorks, none of which could act their way out of a paper bag, are sent back to help Clark?

I'm sure it may have been orgasm-worthy for a comic book fan, but they could have just written in Oliver to save the day instead. These three tools served no purpose other than to toss out some "inside jokes/teases" about Clark's future. Terribly lame.

But that's the thing, they are important in the comic mythos. They give him insight into how important Clark is to the world, not just to those close to him in Smallville. It opens his eyes to see something on a larger scale. Green Arrow can't convey that as he is embroiled with being self serving when it comes to dealing with Lex. Even with the formation of the Justice League, Clark can't see it as a group beyond fighting Lex.

My take on not knowing of Chloe and the differences between the growth of Superman thru their history is that the Legion came back to an alternate reality that Smallville resides in. Of course, my insight is comic book based and Crisis may not have happened yet. I'm sure when Clark is ready, he can always use the Legionaire's ring to see for himself.

DarkestPhoenix · 01-20-09, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitte

Fail.

The legion was send to rescue Clark..

How can they even exist if Clark would have died without their help?
That fails so hard..

Without the legion brainiac would have won.

"If Brainiac isnt defeated we have no future to go back to" ---

Seriously it so wrong..
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1. Clark dies --->Brainiac wins, =no legion will ever be formed. === There is no good future and no legion to send back to aid Clark.

The story fails.. Cant be like that.

That's easy. He beat Brainiac without them originally, but he had to use that crystal. Then, the Persuader came back, so they followed and defeated him. However, he broke the crystal, making it impossible to defeat Brainiac with that.

Therefore, they had to help him and then return to their own (slightly readjusted, assuming everyone knows Brainiac WASN'T killed via crystal) timeline.

It was pretty straightforward, if you know enough about time travel to realize that whenever you do go into the past you create an alternate timeline since you were never in your OWN past.

I guess the only thing that wouldn't make sense is the missing baseball; if it disappeared because he brought it back from the past, wouldn't he have gone into the past in his own history?

Also, that is NOT Brainiac Five. Brainiac 5 is the biggest fuck-up ever.

Michael Corvin · 01-20-09, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by devilshalo

But that's the thing, they are important in the comic mythos. They give him insight into how important Clark is to the world, not just to those close to him in Smallville. It opens his eyes to see something on a larger scale. Green Arrow can't convey that as he is embroiled with being self serving when it comes to dealing with Lex. Even with the formation of the Justice League, Clark can't see it as a group beyond fighting Lex.

Fair enough. They did get that across well enough and it did seem to have an affect on Clark, but why did three strangers suddenly get the point across to Clark? Jonathan, Lionel, Jor-el, the Martian Manhunter, Chloe, Lana and even Kara have all been telling him that he's meant for more than Smallville for years.

devilshalo · 01-20-09, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

Fair enough. They did get that across well enough and it did seem to have an affect on Clark, but why did three strangers suddenly get the point across to Clark? Jonathan, Lionel, Jor-el, the Martian Manhunter, Chloe, Lana and even Kara have all been telling him that he's meant for more than Smallville for years.

It's one thing to be told, "hey, you have these powers.. y'know, you're important to the world." It's another to be told, "these are the great things you have accomplished to ensure this future." What would affect you more?

Clark has always been in the here and now world of Smallville so it's been hard for him to see beyond that, no matter what those around him have told him. He's just simplistic and apprehensive about the use his powers and is seriously happy to live life on the farm.

jjcool · 01-20-09, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dvd-4-life

The Road Warriors stole the name Legion of Doom from the Superfriends animated series. I remember watching Hawk and Animal wrestle one time and a fan held up a sign reading-Legion of Dumb.

Ahhh, I see. I remember having an LoD notebook in grade school. Very sad to hear that Hawk passed away a couple of years ago.

RocShemp · 01-20-09, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkestPhoenix

Personally, instead of Lois dying, I hope Lucy dies. Chloe has always reminded me of Lucy Lane. She looks a lot like her (more than the actress they HAD play her, at any rate), and with Jimmy attempting to marry her, it sealed the deal for me.

I like that theory. It works since Lucy has only been in one ep so they can even kill her offscreen if they can't get the same actress back.

Draven · 01-21-09, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

The only redeeming thing about the episode was Chloe regaining her memory. Sure it's the traditional "Smallville reboot" on a character, but it's Chloe we are talking about.

I liked the episode well enough, but I 100% agree with this. Of course, I felt that her loss of memory was the "reboot", so Smallville pulled the rare "Rereboot" and put things back the way they should have been. Even when Chloe said that she still remembered Clark's secret, I thought they were going to do some kind of "I know you still love Lana" or something stupid.

Yay Smallville writers! Way to not fuck it up again!!

Michael Corvin · 01-21-09, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by devilshalo

It's one thing to be told, "hey, you have these powers.. y'know, you're important to the world." It's another to be told, "these are the great things you have accomplished to ensure this future." What would affect you more?

The people I know, love and care for.

Face it, you have three dorks show up that don't know dick about Clark. They knew Superman. They didn't provide a shred of evidence that they were from the future, just some clever "wink-wink, nod-nod" fan-service moments that meant nothing to Clark. For all he knew, they were just three meteor freaks, one with the ability to read his mind about krypton, chloe, his past, et al.

Clark knew them all of a few hours. I just think it is a stretch that he's ready to take their word about anything thus far without any proof, especially killing Chloe. Maybe if they come back they can bring back some photos or newspaper clippings about all the great things he did/will do.

Anyway, I hope they never show up again unless they recast all three of 'em, maybe a bit older. Maybe get an actress that doesn't sound like she swallowed a tablespoon of peanut butter before filming the scene.

Vipper II · 01-21-09, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

Clark knew them all of a few hours. I just think it is a stretch that he's ready to take their word about anything thus far without any proof, especially killing Chloe. Maybe if they come back they can bring back some photos or newspaper clippings about all the great things he did/will do.

Well, Clark always *has* been rather naive, at least on this show, so, while I agree with you, it's par for the course with him.

Superman07 · 01-21-09, 11:33 AM

They also stopped short of telling him too many details, because from their persepctive they didn't want to upset the ("new") timeline.

01-17-09, 10:00 PM	#52
comanche_doyle Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 274	Re: Smallville -- "Legion" -- 1/15/09 Can Doomsday be killed permanently? I hated the red-headed kid, the other two are okay. I read the spoilers and Lois isn't going to be around much the next three or four weeks. And just when things were getting good with her and Clark. Chloe getting back her memories of Clark's abilities was nice. I wonder why there was no reference to the bald guy at the end of the episode before the break. Is Lana's secret that she is holding Lex captive trying to erase his memories of Clark? Can't wait for next week.

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mrhan DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,031	Re: Smallville -- "Legion" -- 1/15/09 I didn't like their take on Lightning Lad 'cause I don't remember him being goofy in the comics books but it was cool seeing the Legion. It's a plus they used the 3 original members and no pink costume for Cosmic Boy. Last edited by mrhan; 01-18-09 at 07:40 PM.

01-20-09, 12:49 PM	#56
Hitte New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1	Re: Smallville -- "Legion" -- 1/15/09 Fail. The legion was send to rescue Clark.. How can they even exist if Clark would have died without their help? That fails so hard.. Without the legion brainiac would have won. "If Brainiac isnt defeated we have no future to go back to" --- Seriously it so wrong.. ---------------------------------------- 1. Clark dies --->Brainiac wins, =no legion will ever be formed. === There is no good future and no legion to send back to aid Clark. The story fails.. Cant be like that.

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