Mash: Anyone notice that Hawkeye had long hair?

feral125 · 10-27-05, 06:22 PM

I can't believe no one noticed that Hawkeye had long hair. It was way too long for the Military. He never wore the required uniform either.

FinkPish · 10-27-05, 06:50 PM

I'm pretty sure everyone noticed that he had long hair, unless there was a contingent of the blind watching MASH. The whole point of his character was that he was a rebel and disliked the army and any sort of authority. Did you just recently start watching this show?

NORML54601 · 10-27-05, 07:09 PM

DodgingCars · 10-27-05, 07:49 PM

I think its also safe to say that the MASH unit wasn't run like a combat unit.

The Cow · 10-27-05, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by feral125

He never wore the required uniform either.

Not true.

mikehunt · 10-27-05, 08:19 PM

they played drafted doctors on a show meant to rip on the vietnam war
what do you expect

The Cow · 10-27-05, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by feral125

I can't believe no one noticed that Hawkeye had long hair. It was way too long for the Military. He never wore the required uniform either.

Did you notice Klinger with the pink bunny slippers and the hang glider?

zebop · 10-27-05, 08:37 PM

I also noticed Klinger's late '70s, early '80s Texas Rangers cap too.

FinkPish · 10-27-05, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mikehunt

they played drafted doctors on a show meant to rip on the vietnam war
what do you expect

It was actually the Korean War they were fighting in, but the show and the movie were allegories more about Vietnam then Korea.

The Cow · 10-27-05, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FinkPish

It was actually the Korean War they were fighting in, but the show and the movie were allegories more about Vietnam then Korea.

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Tommy Ceez · 10-27-05, 09:17 PM

Are field surgons held to that high a standard?

Joe Molotov · 10-27-05, 09:33 PM

Anyone notice that Clark Kent looks kinda like Superman but with glasses? Hmmm...

Legolas · 10-27-05, 09:43 PM

Anyone notice the Korean War lasted over a decade on MASH?

Count Dooku · 10-27-05, 10:09 PM

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I also noticed Klinger's late '70s, early '80s Texas Rangers cap too.

That's a Toledo Mud Hens cap

zebop · 10-27-05, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Dooku

That's a Toledo Mud Hens cap

Oops, thanks for the head's up.

Giles · 10-27-05, 11:23 PM

:nopics:

Charlie Goose · 10-27-05, 11:40 PM

Anyone notice that Margaret Houlihan had facial cosmetic surgery in the middle of a war?

Jack Straw · 10-28-05, 01:39 AM

I always chocked up their un-military behavior and look to the fact that they were doctors, not soldiers, and then thrown in some liberties taken by Hollywood as well. I've continuously been watching the DVDs of this series and am constantly blown away by the level of the writing. Consistently clever throughout until say about season 10. Any care to offer their opinion on when this show "jumped the shark"? I say it was after Gary Burghoff left.

Count Dooku · 10-28-05, 03:08 AM

Some people will say it jumped with the departure of Trapper and Henry Blake

I say it jumped with the departure of Frank Burns and the arrival of Winchester

Count Dooku · 10-28-05, 03:12 AM

Here ya go, Giles

MASH at its best

Giantrobo · 10-28-05, 04:34 AM

OH MY GAWD!! I was just thinking about this today!

Haircuts that don't go with the time in Period Sitcoms drive me crazy. Happy Days is another show that's guilty of this especially in the later seasons. That Ted guy with his 80's hair.

Giantrobo · 10-28-05, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Dooku

Some people will say it jumped with the departure of Trapper and Henry Blake

I say it jumped with the departure of Frank Burns and the arrival of Winchester

To each their own. Winchester actually became closer to Hawk and BJ than Frank ever did and I always liked that.

One of my favorite eps was when Hawk's Father was going through surgery and Hawk and Winchester hung out together while waiting for the results. They really bonded in the ep and the knowing knudge at the end between the two was great.

GoldenJCJ · 10-28-05, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo

To each their own. Winchester actually became closer to Hawk and BJ than Frank ever did and I always liked that.

One of my favorite eps was when Hawk's Father was going through surgery and Hawk and Winchester hung out together while waiting for the results. They really bonded in the ep and the knowing knudge at the end between the two was great.

Agreed. I liked Winchester a lot more than Burns, Charles was both the foil for Hawkeye and BJ as well as a friend. They would have an episode where they were fighting with each other and then turn around and have another episode where they would all three be stirring up trouble together.

Although after Frank left, the Margaret character never really fit into place with whether she was "the enemy" or a friend. IMO.

devilshalo · 10-28-05, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ

Although after Frank left, the Margaret character never really fit into place with whether she was "the enemy" or a friend. IMO.

But she became more human after the divorce from Penobscott. All thru that she had to try and hide her vulnerability and she wasn't so much of a bitch after that. Of course there was the episode early on that explained her toughness when the nurses were all talking behind her back and the other episode where she tried extremely hard to please Howitzer.

rw2516 · 10-28-05, 05:04 PM

The movie and series were based on real people and events. The original novel was written by a guy who was a MASH surgeon in Korea. Hawkeye, Trapper, Radar, Hot Lips among others are all based on real people.

There is more truth than fiction to the laid back military comedies. In a business management class in college we studied a military outpost(don't remember which war). The outpost was stuck out in the middle of nowhere and they could never get supplies. No one wore their regulation uniform. No big brass ever came to see them. They ended up having to help themselves to supplies from other bases. Although discipline was lax, morale was so high they were one of the most efficient units in the entire military. Everyone was trying to get transferred into it. I can't remember the exact term for it but it was a textbook example of a management style that is very successful in private and corporate business.

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FinkPish DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,657	I'm pretty sure everyone noticed that he had long hair, unless there was a contingent of the blind watching MASH. The whole point of his character was that he was a rebel and disliked the army and any sort of authority. Did you just recently start watching this show?

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rw2516 DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,358	The movie and series were based on real people and events. The original novel was written by a guy who was a MASH surgeon in Korea. Hawkeye, Trapper, Radar, Hot Lips among others are all based on real people. There is more truth than fiction to the laid back military comedies. In a business management class in college we studied a military outpost(don't remember which war). The outpost was stuck out in the middle of nowhere and they could never get supplies. No one wore their regulation uniform. No big brass ever came to see them. They ended up having to help themselves to supplies from other bases. Although discipline was lax, morale was so high they were one of the most efficient units in the entire military. Everyone was trying to get transferred into it. I can't remember the exact term for it but it was a textbook example of a management style that is very successful in private and corporate business.