Soprano's question: Season 4

kantonburg · 07-11-05, 05:02 PM

I've started watching Season 4 on HBO. I quit watching a little through season 3 and the only thing I'm not sure of is who this Gloria woman was who

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What signafiance does she play and is there anything I need to know up to this point? FWIW the name of the episode I just watched was "Everybody Hurts"

tia

MrBob · 07-11-05, 05:22 PM

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She was toney's guma (however you spell that) at the end of season three. He met her in Melfi's office. She got in a fight with Toney at her house, one night and threw a London Broil at him as he was leaving. This really pissed off Toney when he found out, and he beat the shit out of her, while she was begging him to kill her. And later made contact with Carmella, (because she works at their mercedes dealership). Toney got really pissed when he found out, and went down to the dealership, told her to stay out of his life and she threatened to kill herself.

She is in his dreams throughout season 4 and 5.

kantonburg · 07-11-05, 05:24 PM

Thanks MrBob

I remember that episode where he beat the hell out of her I think. Was it behind a restaurant or behind some buildings? I sort of remember the steak throwing scene.

MrBob · 07-11-05, 05:28 PM

Crap I screwed up on that, he beat the hell out of her after the london broil and actually went down to the dealership and dumped her there after finding out about her and carmella.

There I edited the first post.

Cusm · 07-11-05, 09:51 PM

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Crap I screwed up on that, he beat the hell out of her after the london broil and actually went down to the dealership and dumped her there after finding out about her and carmella.

There I edited the first post.

I thought he had one of his boys take a test drive and break up with her, while letting her know what exactly would occur if she made any further contact with any of the Sopranos.

SFranke · 07-11-05, 10:14 PM

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I remember that episode where he beat the hell out of her I think. Was it behind a restaurant or behind some buildings? I sort of remember the steak throwing scene.

That was Tracy, who was killed outside of the Bada Bing by Ralph Cifaretto. This enraged Tony, who likened Tracy to his own daughter.

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rfduncan · 07-12-05, 02:08 PM

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I thought he had one of his boys take a test drive and break up with her, while letting her know what exactly would occur if she made any further contact with any of the Sopranos.

I believe it might have been Bobby Parisi (Philly Parisi's twin brother) who took her out for a drive.

RoyalTea · 07-12-05, 02:22 PM

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andicus · 07-12-05, 02:41 PM

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SFranke · 07-12-05, 03:44 PM

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kantonburg · 08-02-05, 08:28 AM

I saw the episode last night with the aftermath of the fire.

Yes eggs were offered before the fight. As far as whether or not Ralph caused it. It was implied but never actually answered.

Giantrobo · 08-02-05, 09:07 AM

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I saw the episode last night with the aftermath of the fire.

Yes eggs were offered before the fight. As far as whether or not Ralph caused it. It was implied but never actually answered.

I always thought that it was an accident. But I think Tony's love of animals, hatred of Ralph, and most importantly...Tony's perception of Ralph's guilt due to Ralph's "It's just a horse and I've got more impotant things on my mind" attitude in the face of his son's recent injury is what led to the events in the episode.

I've noticed that sometimes people die in this show for reasons other than why they were supposed to. i.e. Richie Aprile

kantonburg · 08-02-05, 09:30 AM

I noticed that Tony loved that horse. Does he have a love of animals in this series? I've never really paid attention and it's been awhile since I started watching the series again.

rfduncan · 08-02-05, 09:51 AM

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I noticed that Tony loved that horse. Does he have a love of animals in this series? I've never really paid attention and it's been awhile since I started watching the series again.

Well, remember the ducks in the pool in his backyard? He had a container with food for them next to his shed. I think that was either season 1 or 2.

otmetrud · 08-02-05, 11:09 AM

Whether Ralphie did or did not burn down the stable was never established. But I've heard Joey Pants say that while he was playing the scene, he was playing it as if he did NOT do it.

Giantrobo · 08-02-05, 11:59 AM

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Well, remember the ducks in the pool in his backyard? He had a container with food for them next to his shed. I think that was either season 1 or 2.

Tony also

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SFranke · 08-02-05, 12:06 PM

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Rypro 525 · 08-02-05, 09:25 PM

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Charlie Goose · 08-02-05, 10:04 PM

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07-11-05, 05:02 PM	#1
kantonburg DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: BV VA Posts: 5,942	Soprano's question: Season 4 I've started watching Season 4 on HBO. I quit watching a little through season 3 and the only thing I'm not sure of is who this Gloria woman was who Spoiler: killed herself . What signafiance does she play and is there anything I need to know up to this point? FWIW the name of the episode I just watched was "Everybody Hurts" tia

07-11-05, 05:22 PM	#2
MrBob DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,003	Spoilers: She was toney's guma (however you spell that) at the end of season three. He met her in Melfi's office. She got in a fight with Toney at her house, one night and threw a London Broil at him as he was leaving. This really pissed off Toney when he found out, and he beat the shit out of her, while she was begging him to kill her. And later made contact with Carmella, (because she works at their mercedes dealership). Toney got really pissed when he found out, and went down to the dealership, told her to stay out of his life and she threatened to kill herself. She is in his dreams throughout season 4 and 5. Last edited by MrBob; 07-11-05 at 05:29 PM.

08-02-05, 12:06 PM	#17
SFranke DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,231	Spoiler: In the Fifth Season, it is revealed Tony had a dog which his father had killed. Also, it is because of the "threat" of the bear that Tony returns to the house and thus begins to repair his marriage.

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Rypro 525 DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: a frikin hellhole Posts: 25,769	[quote=Giantrobo I've noticed that sometimes people die in this show for reasons other than why they were supposed to. i.e. Richie Aprile[/QUOTE] I dont' remeber for a fact, but Spoiler: why did Janice kill Richie? __________________ Follow me: http://twitter.com/TheChewDefense

07-11-05, 05:24 PM	#3
kantonburg DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: BV VA Posts: 5,942	Thanks MrBob I remember that episode where he beat the hell out of her I think. Was it behind a restaurant or behind some buildings? I sort of remember the steak throwing scene.

07-11-05, 05:28 PM	#4
MrBob DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,003	Crap I screwed up on that, he beat the hell out of her after the london broil and actually went down to the dealership and dumped her there after finding out about her and carmella. There I edited the first post.

08-02-05, 08:28 AM	#11
kantonburg DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: BV VA Posts: 5,942	I saw the episode last night with the aftermath of the fire. Yes eggs were offered before the fight. As far as whether or not Ralph caused it. It was implied but never actually answered.

08-02-05, 09:30 AM	#13
kantonburg DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: BV VA Posts: 5,942	I noticed that Tony loved that horse. Does he have a love of animals in this series? I've never really paid attention and it's been awhile since I started watching the series again.

08-02-05, 11:09 AM	#15
otmetrud Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 351	Whether Ralphie did or did not burn down the stable was never established. But I've heard Joey Pants say that while he was playing the scene, he was playing it as if he did NOT do it.