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Old 04-29-05, 07:02 AM   #1
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Enterprise 04/29/05



Episode Title: "In a Mirror, Darkly, Part II"

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After using the Defiant to repel a Tholian attack, the power-hungry Archer and Enterprise crew set about using this advanced ship to seize control of all of Earth's Terran Empire. As Archer takes full command of the Defiant and reviews the alternate history of Starfleet, his duplicitous lover Hoshi, a traitorous T'Pol and a reptilian Gorn stowaway hatch schemes of their own.


Director: Marvin V. Rush
Teleplay By: Michael Sussman
Story By: Manny Coto
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Old 04-29-05, 08:20 AM   #2
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It's going to be so cool seeing them in the TOS uniforms.
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Old 04-29-05, 08:33 AM   #3
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Not only that, but I can't wait to see what a
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Old 04-29-05, 08:50 AM   #4
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Yeah, that too.

Damn, why does this show have to get good just before it's cancelled?
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Old 04-29-05, 08:55 AM   #5
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Damn, why does this show have to get good just before it's cancelled?
"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
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Old 04-29-05, 09:15 AM   #6
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I guess this show will be like George Costanza, leaving on a high note, knows when to exit.
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Old 04-29-05, 09:53 AM   #7
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So do we get to see T'Pol and Hoshi in short short skirts?
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Old 04-29-05, 11:24 AM   #8
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So do we get to see T'Pol and Hoshi in short short skirts?
I would assume so!

I think the premise outlined in the spoiler would make a decent spin-off series all by itself.
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Old 04-29-05, 12:49 PM   #9
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It is a shame that they are cancelling it in its Best season. Season 4 has traditionally been one of the better seasons of Trek shows, the characters have usually gotten fleshed out and grown enough that they are no longer awkward.

A friend of mine suggested about a year or two ago, before notice of cancellation was announced that to save they show they probably should try a radical concept of Releasing the previous seasons on DVD and then instead of cancelling the show completely continue to produce the series as a DVD Only show.
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Old 04-29-05, 02:46 PM   #10
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Old 04-29-05, 08:31 PM   #11
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I'm creaming my pants
not really
but this is cool as hell
a TOS ship with TNG warp speed stars going by
the gorn
the noisey bridge
Gary Graham making an appearance
blue phasers
blue-white photon torpedoes
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Old 04-29-05, 08:38 PM   #12
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wait a second, they're about to overturn TOS continuity. the full rebellion doesn't really get going until after Mirror Spock becomes a peacenik

edit: good, they put a stop to that
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Old 04-29-05, 08:58 PM   #13
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OMG. I haven't seen that actor in YEARS
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Peter fucking Weller
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Old 04-29-05, 09:00 PM   #14
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LOL, Hoshi and Travis, the least used characters in the regular universe, end up running things! That's great.

Also, I believe the vaporized Admiral plays the VP on 24.
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Old 04-29-05, 09:22 PM   #15
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just a reminder, the podcast for In a Mirror, Darkly, Part I available http://www.startrek.com/startrek/vie...cle/10602.html, and for part 2, http://www.startrek.com/startrek/vie...cle/10679.html
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Old 04-29-05, 09:27 PM   #16
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That was COOL! Why can't we have more stuff like this? Why? [Bando cries]
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Old 04-29-05, 09:34 PM   #17
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LOL, Hoshi and Travis, the least used characters in the regular universe, end up running things! That's great.
That was great and I did not see that ending coming at all. The writers managed to maintain TOS continuity which is cool and next week's episode looks sweet. I hate UPN more and more with each passing week.
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Old 04-30-05, 04:11 AM   #18
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I loved all of the little details on the Defiant. From the classic look to the sound effects (I even liked the hokey teletype sounds that came from the computer and the over-sized flip-phone style communicators!)

The ending even gives us hope that we will get to re-visit this story line some day.
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Old 04-30-05, 09:29 AM   #19
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I'm creaming my pants
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but this is cool as hell
a TOS ship with TNG warp speed stars going by
the gorn
the noisey bridge
Gary Graham making an appearance
blue phasers
blue-white photon torpedoes
Pretty much my same thoughts!

It was great seeing a TOS era ship in actual ship-to-ship combat. And now we finally know where a TOS Jeffries Tube goes.

If they ever want to "really" shake up Trek sometime in the future, a Mirror series could be a lot of fun.
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Old 04-30-05, 01:22 PM   #20
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Damn, that was fun. Why are they killing this right as it's getting good?
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Old 04-30-05, 07:51 PM   #21
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LOL, Hoshi and Travis, the least used characters in the regular universe, end up running things! That's great.

I liked that too.

Didn't like the Gorn. Way too fast compared to the sloth we saw in Arena.
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Old 05-01-05, 05:18 AM   #22
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The battle where the TOS Enterprise was kicking the Andorian and Vulcan asses was freaking awesome. Seeing the way it moved with modern CGI and seeing it in battle was great. Man, if only we got to see that ship doing more.

Great ending as well. I knew something had to happen to Archer since he was being mocked by his more successful normal-universe counterpart throughout the episode.

The only thing I didn't like the was way the Gorn looked. They tried to make him look more lizardy, but it kinda lost something.
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Old 05-01-05, 12:03 PM   #23
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so after listening to the podcast, I would like to know if anyone here is able to give us a HDTV screen cap of the character bios for hoshi and for archer.

oh, and a screen cap of hoshi-mayweather kissing would be nice too!

much thanks in advance!
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Old 05-01-05, 12:27 PM   #24
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If they ever want to "really" shake up Trek sometime in the future, a Mirror series could be a lot of fun.
Not to mention the fact that, in the Mirror Universe, apparently all the women are lipstick lesbians.
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Old 05-01-05, 03:21 PM   #25
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so after listening to the podcast, I would like to know if anyone here is able to give us a HDTV screen cap of the character bios for hoshi and for archer.

oh, and a screen cap of hoshi-mayweather kissing would be nice too!

much thanks in advance!
Archer's bio:

Hoshi's bio:

Hoshi kissing Travis:

I read on trekweb.com that Sussman wrote more stuff than what appeared on the screen. Apparently Archer died at his home 1 day after attending the commissioning ceremony of the TOS Enterprise NCC-1701. Hoshi and her family were executed by Kodos (from the TOS Season 1 episode "The Conscience of the King") in 2246.

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