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Old 11-09-02, 02:56 AM   #1
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Bill Maher going to HBO?

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LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - Bill Maher, late of ABC's "Politically Incorrect," may return to a talk-show host's chair in 2003.

The comic, who's currently on the road with his stand-up act, is talking with HBO about hosting a weekly show beginning next year. Sources tell the Washington Post that a deal is already done; the network will only say it's "in conversations" with Maher.

ABC cancelled "Politically Incorrect" earlier this year, several months after Maher, in his first show back after the Sept. 11 attacks, took issue with President Bush labeling the hijackers cowards.

"We have been the cowards lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly," Maher said at the time. "Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly."

Although Maher later apologized for his remarks, several advertisers pulled out, and he came under harsh criticism from many people, including White House press secretary Ari Fleischer. Maher says Fleischer's comments pretty much signaled that the end was near for the show.

Maher's HBO show, tentatively set for next spring, sounds like something in between "Politically Incorrect" and "Dennis Miller Live," which ended its eight-year run on HBO in August. The format would feature Maher and guests discussing and deflating the news of the day.
I wasn't really a big fan of his, but I always seemed to tune into PI. Go figure.If it's the same (or similar) format I would likely watch this too.
I think no editing and no commercials could make it an even better show. I always got POed when someone would be talking and then bam, ad break.
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Old 11-09-02, 03:27 AM   #2
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Sounds good to me.

I don't particularly like him as an entertainer, nor to I really agree with his stance on a lot of issues, but through his approach, he exposes a lot of the self-serving ******** that dominates the news. He took a lot of unjustified heat from parrots and sheep who never even saw the show where he dared suggest that our own actions in international politics may have also been cowardly in the eyes of those who attacked us. Agree or disagree, the comments were harmless, and the ideas worthy of discussion (hell, we were talking about the same things in Otter at the time), so it was a bit frustrating to see the backlash he received because of it.

However, his show was hardly suited for ABC, the network who only claims to be "Family Oriented" when it has financial benefits. As someone who enjoys a good heated discussion over difficult topics, I often didn't find the ABC version to be as compelling as it could have been, and discussions were always getting cut too short just when something got interesting.

Sometimes he's right on target, and othertimes he's making a complete ass of himself, but at least he's elevating the level of discussion and making people think about the rhetoric they often cling to. I can appreciate that, so I'll certainly tune in if HBO gets a show off the ground.

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Old 11-09-02, 11:58 AM   #3
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well said Das
I think alot of us feel this way about BM
enraged but enteratined and appreciative of what he brings to light. Say what you will but everyone usually got a fair shake on P.I. if they had something worthwhile to say.
Will be tuning in as well if this comes to fruition
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Old 11-09-02, 01:22 PM   #4
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Sounds good to me. He can try and fill the void left by Dennis Miller...
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Old 11-09-02, 10:24 PM   #5
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Maher is nowhere near as funny as Miller, but he's much more politically astute. Both of them deserve a show (but not on HBO since I don't receive it).
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Old 11-10-02, 01:43 AM   #6
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Sometimes he's right on target, and othertimes he's making a complete ass of himself, but at least he's elevating the level of discussion and making people think about the rhetoric they often cling to. I can appreciate that, so I'll certainly tune in if HBO gets a show off the ground.
That's what I appreciate about Maher. He's willing to say the things that no-one else is willing to say.

HBO, eh? I hope Harlan Ellison is a frequent guest. I would just love to see Harlan go off without the restrictions of network television.
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Old 11-10-02, 04:58 PM   #7
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I liked Politically Incorrect better when it was on Comedy Central. The guests had more or less equal time and even when it got into a really heated argument, Maher always found a great joke to suppress the heat.

On ABC, he thought he was doing Crossfire. Maher tended to side with the left-wingers. So, it was pretty much dump on the right-wingers. That's what it ended up being.
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Old 11-11-02, 10:28 AM   #8
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The show was too short on ABC. Only a half hour and then they added a short monologue. Wasn't it an hour on Comedy Central? You think ABC might've noticed they were always still talking when the credits rolled. It never made sense to me. It was on so late at night...why cut the time? Not to mention cancelling the show for being too politically incorrect
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Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread

I personally cannot wait.


'Real Time with Bill Maher'
Series premiere
11:30 p.m. Friday
HBO

http://www.freep.com/entertainment/t...1_20030221.htm

Bill Maher has plenty to say -- again

Comic is eager to sit down in the topical hot seat with new 'Real Time' talk show
February 21, 2003

BY MIKE DUFFY
FREE PRESS TV WRITER

Bill Maher's like a talented ballplayer itching to get back in the game.


The hot potato topical comic and former host of "Politically Incorrect" is really ready to Iraq and roll.

"I'm anxious especially to be able to talk about the war and put the brakes on it," says Maher, who returns to television in "Real Time with Bill Maher" at 11:30 tonight on HBO.

The new late night talk show, televised live Friday evenings from Los Angeles, will provide Maher & Co. a freewheeling, anything-goes forum for news, comedy and irreverent opinions.

"It should be harder to 'sell' a war, shouldn't it? And we should be more critical in our thinking about it," observes Maher, expressing serious dismay about how easily President Bush and his administration have marketed a march to war over the past year. "It's scary how they morphed bin Laden into Saddam Hussein."

"Real Time" is styled to serve "as an end-of-the-week kind of wrap-up show," says Maher. It's an hour long and free of pesky commercial breaks.

"This show is primarily entertainment," says Maher. "People are not looking to see 'Meet the Press' and that's not what they're going to get. . . . We want to be entertaining and funny. And we want to be saying things nobody else is saying and saying them in a fresh, original way."

One prominent regular segment of "Real Time" offers an echo of "Politically Incorrect" and its hectic, eclectic smorgasbord of comics, pundits, scholars, actors and rock 'n' rollers debating the issues of the day.

Maher will chair a weekly roundtable panel of some of his favorite "Politically Incorrect" regulars.

The trio of scheduled guests for opening night includes conservative political columnist Ann Coulter, comic Larry Miller and author-educator Michael Eric Dyson. In future weeks, Dennis Miller, Arianna Huffington, Al Franken, D.L. Hughley, Tim Robbins and Alec Baldwin are scheduled for some "Real Time" topical crossfire.

"We cast a much wider net on 'Politically Incorrect.' That's what the show was," says Maher, "those crazy mismatched pairings like Florence Henderson and Marilyn Manson."

With "Real Time," Maher is hoping for sharper, smarter roundtable discussions by well-informed celebrities.

"We want people to leave the broadcast feeling like things have really been covered, the big issues as well as pop culture -- Iraq and also Michael Jackson," says Maher.

No regrets
Maher is anything but bitter about his experience with the demise of "Politically Incorrect," which got caught in the flag-waving aftermath of Sept. 11, 2001.

"I was never unhappy when I worked at ABC," says Maher. "And those last nine months, after we knew we were going off the air, I enjoyed those shows more than any others. In the post-9/11 period, we were liberated. We were able to stay a lot more focused; there were big issues to chew on."

It was Maher's uncompromising post-9/11 candor on "Politically Incorrect," however, that sparked a controversy that eventually led to ABC's cancellation of the show. One night, Maher suggested that the terrorists who died flying airliners into the World Trade Center were perhaps more courageous than Americans who kill civilians while dropping bombs from military aircraft miles above Afghanistan.

The comments were slammed as treasonous and un-American by numerous conservative pundits. And Maher was even scolded by the White House. So much for the American tradition of freely expressing a dissenting opinion. Hey, wasn't the show called "Politically Incorrect"?

Didn't matter. Nervous advertisers immediately started to bail out on Maher and the show.

"Our ratings never fell," says Maher. "Our audience was very loyal."

But the drop in advertising revenue spoke to ABC's bottom line requirements for a show's survival. So ABC pulled the plug on the show, allowing it to finish out the 2001-2002 season.

"I was able to say pretty much anything I wanted on ABC. The only difference was I got fired," recalls Maher with a sardonic laugh.

Skewering all
Ironically, Maher himself is no knee-jerk liberal. He's part libertarian, part witty, cerebral contrarian.

"I do have conservative viewpoints on unions and voting . . . and the National Endowment for the Arts and many things that would disappoint liberals," Maher said earlier this winter. "I always thought I was doing my job back in the old ('Politically Incorrect') days, when I was equally hated by the left and the right."

Bill Clinton, George Bush, Al Gore, Dick Cheney, Democrat or Republican, they've all been red meat for sarcastic political skewering on the Bill Maher barbecue. Now there's the bonus of nailing the White House on Friday nights.

"The administration always releases the bad news late on Fridays and then it gets buried in the Saturday papers and nobody remembers it," says Maher. "I want to be there for that Friday news dump."

Oh, goody. And with absolutely no cowardly, chicken salad advertisers to please in the free, unfettered HBO universe, Maher won't have to worry about anything but being funny, honest and entertaining.

On HBO, wise guy contrarians are always cool.

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Old 02-21-03, 09:35 AM   #10
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Re: Bill Maher fans: new shows starts tonight on HBO

Quoth Jadzia
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Oh, goody. And with absolutely no cowardly, chicken salad advertisers to please in the free, unfettered HBO universe, Maher won't have to worry about anything but being funny, honest and entertaining.





Me neither. I've never liked Maher as a person but as a public figure who exposes so many full-of-crap sensibilities people cling to and preach about, I've always respected what he does and the need for people like him. I can't wait to see him let loose on HBO. Between Penn & Teller: Bullshit and Real Time with Bill Maher, Friday nights are going to be great for picking apart so much of the nonsense we're fed during the week.

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Old 02-21-03, 10:12 AM   #11
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thanks for the reminder! will definitely tune in.
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Old 02-21-03, 02:08 PM   #12
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Looking forward to this also - and stay tuned after the Maher show for Da Ali G Show which today's NY Times said is "....irrestibly, corrosivley funny. It also serves as a reminder of why HBO is home to so many comedies and dramas that are unmatched on network television"

Looks like a late Friday night for me.....
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Old 02-21-03, 02:30 PM   #13
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I couldn't stand him on ABC. I'm going to be watching this in the hopes that it's more like his Comedy Central show, which I loved.
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Old 02-21-03, 11:23 PM   #14
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Hm. Had some great moments. Seemed a little rough, but hey, it's live and it was the first show. I'll watch at least a couple more.
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Old 02-22-03, 02:47 AM   #15
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Holy carp ... who knew it was possible to make Coulter look like the sensible one. He'd been off the air for so long that I'd forgotten how closed minded Maher could be on certain topics and his annoying tendancy to change the subject when someone points out the flaws in his "logic." Even when he's right, I wish he'd shut up and let the guest argue against him without pounding home some absurd oversimplification of the issue.

Luckily, Coulter said enough things to remind me what a nutcase she is too, and I couldn't get enough of Jesse Jackson on the end repeatedly promoting his book and spouting off a random string of thesaurus words and senseless rhetoric. Larry Miller sounded interesting, but he didn't get to say much. I know it's a free-form show, but I'd like to hear more of the opinions without the other guests jumping down each other's throats so quickly that a coherent thought can't be formed.

Still, it's great to at least have a forum like this back on the air. For the most part I found it frustrating to watch, but I'll keep watching in hopes that they can hone it a bit more. Sarah Silverman was spot on as always and saved the show for me from holier-than-thou preaching of the guests into some biting social comedy. My God, she's a brilliant comedienne (being hot doesn't hurt).

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Old 02-22-03, 03:06 AM   #16
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Just remember folks...when he got into trouble with ABC for his comments, even Maher admitted that the first ones to his defence were Conservatives.

So to alla yuz guyz!


I'm no fan of his but to be honest, he SHOULD be on HBO and I hope he does well.
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urgh!!! i just can't stand ann coulter! she ridiculous...after watching i'm happy to "confirm" that i am guilty of treason (thank you ann)!

i thought it was a good show, a little rough around the edges but that's kinda expected for first shows.
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Old 02-22-03, 09:57 AM   #18
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SARAH~!

(Even if all her jokes were old and straight from her one-woman show)

And Paul F. Tompkins is pretty damn funny, too - not his format, though.

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Sorry I missed this.

But I do adore Sarah Silverman. There's something about a cute girl with a filthy mouth that just does it for me.
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sarah was good but it seemed like the audience wasn't too sure about her. there were definitely some awkwards moments.
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Yeah, the audience seemed really confused. Of course, I really have to wonder about those people. They seemed hand-picked to agree with Maher. Did others notice how everything he said received a massive ovation, but the comments of the others (unless they directly repeated what he just said) were met with near silence. Normally, I'd approve of silence when Coulter speaks, but it was strangely and severely unbalanced. You figure with such divisive topics as those discussed, half the crowd would feel one way, and the other half would skew to the other side. I dunno ... it was just strange.

I noticed Maher did comment about how he knew she was funny, implying that the audience seemed to miss the joke. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if Silverman (in her trademark style) can survive long on her own without someone famous repeatedly putting her on the air. It's like everyone who knows anything about comedy realizes her talent, yet no one can seem to keep her on the air for any significant duration. Then again, maybe she just doesn't have any new material.

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After watching tonite....Maher is still an ass...only more viscious because it's HBO...and he still stacks his "panel".

With that said I still think HBO is the best place for him and I wish him success.
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Then again, maybe she just doesn't have any new material.
I saw a rerun of SNL from the early 90s recently. She was on Weekend Update, and did her Abramawitz-Silverman wedding joke ("The invitations are just going to say, 'Jews'"). She did the same joke the week before on Conan.

She's really funny, but not very prolific.

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Real Time with Bill Maher: 7-25 Season Premiere

I'm so glad to have this back. It seemed there were a lot more laugh out loud moments tonight than I remember in the first season. Could be because D.L. Hughley is a funny mf, that "Boondocks" guy was such a tool, and the fact that Arianna Huffington was nowhere to be seen.

I did miss the Paul F. Tompkins bit, although I can definitely live without it. I really enjoyed the comedy acts Bill had on at the end of the show last season. I hope they come back after this episode. The Sharpton piece could have been left off for one of these. It really served no purpose.

Highlight of the night: Hughley impersonating Buchannan's kids after she said the drugs they do are O.K., "Man, mom's allright!"

Welcome back Bill, see ya next week!
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Wow. If this is any indication of how many people are watching this show, I probably won't get to see it again...

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