Gilmore Girls -- Series Discussion Thread
05-16-07, 05:00 PM
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I'm not adverse to "girl" shows and am a huge fan of Sex and the City, but something about this show always rubbed me the wrong way. The way it's shot, the dialogue, the staging, I just can't stand it.
05-16-07, 05:26 PM
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Sean Gunn, aka Stars Hollow's resident buffoon Kirk, was mentally prepared for Gilmore Girls to end its seven-season run — just not for how he found out about it on the same day as fans did. ''I got a text message from Cher, the season 2 winner of Beauty and the Geek,'' he says, kindly pausing for laughter. '''Sorry to hear about your show.' That's how I found out it had just got canceled.'' Because the series' fate hadn't been decided at the time of last month's annual wrap party, the cast never got the blow-out they deserved. To give Gunn a proper send-off, we asked him to countdown his Top 10 favorite Kirk episodes. It was the least we could do...especially if we wanted to hear the words ''Cat Kirk'' again.
10. Season 3's ''Haunted Leg''
9. Season 3's ''They Shoot Gilmores, Don't They?''
8. Season 5's ''Blame Booze and Melville''
7. Season 3's ''Face-Off''
6. Season 2's ''Teach Me Tonight''
5. Season 2's ''A-Tisket, A-Tasket''
4. Season 4's ''Raincoats and Recipes''
3. Season 5's ''Jews and Chinese Food''
2. Season 3's ''A Deep-Fried Korean Thanksgiving''
1. Season 4's ''The Festival of Living Art''
Sean Gunn, aka Stars Hollow's resident buffoon Kirk, was mentally prepared for Gilmore Girls to end its seven-season run — just not for how he found out about it on the same day as fans did. ''I got a text message from Cher, the season 2 winner of Beauty and the Geek,'' he says, kindly pausing for laughter. '''Sorry to hear about your show.' That's how I found out it had just got canceled.'' Because the series' fate hadn't been decided at the time of last month's annual wrap party, the cast never got the blow-out they deserved. To give Gunn a proper send-off, we asked him to countdown his Top 10 favorite Kirk episodes. It was the least we could do...especially if we wanted to hear the words ''Cat Kirk'' again.
10. Season 3's ''Haunted Leg''
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9. Season 3's ''They Shoot Gilmores, Don't They?''
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8. Season 5's ''Blame Booze and Melville''
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7. Season 3's ''Face-Off''
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6. Season 2's ''Teach Me Tonight''
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5. Season 2's ''A-Tisket, A-Tasket''
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4. Season 4's ''Raincoats and Recipes''
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3. Season 5's ''Jews and Chinese Food''
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2. Season 3's ''A Deep-Fried Korean Thanksgiving''
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1. Season 4's ''The Festival of Living Art''
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05-16-07, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rmick
I don't get why people are blaming ASP for the horrible plot line we got at the beginning of the season? Having Chris and Lorelai get married was just one of the many paths the writers could have taken from the end of the 6th season.
05-17-07, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rmick
I don't get why people are blaming ASP for the horrible plot line we got at the beginning of the season? Having Chris and Lorelai get married was just one of the many paths the writers could have taken from the end of the 6th season.
05-17-07, 08:57 AM
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I still think ASP left a lot of things in a crummy state when she left, not just the 'Lorelai in bed with Christopher' scene. That doesn't excuse the new producers from making matters even worse, but still... it's not like the show was perfect, classic Gilmore Girls up until that final scene in season 6.
05-17-07, 09:02 AM
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I think ASP left things in such a bad state last season in order to really try to bolster her bargaining position to squeeze 2 more seasons out of the CW, but the CW just wasn't going to go for 2 seasons, and the new show runner Rosenthal was left holding the bag.
05-19-07, 03:36 PM
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Yes, one could pick apart small story details. But really, what's the point? Ultimately, you cared a damn lot about what happens to the characters. You feel their nostalgia with them, you feel their sorrow, you feel their joy. Credit where credit is due - all the writers - ASP and the ones from this season - did a great job. It's the entire journey that mattered; not one or two storylines that you didn't like. Kudos to the actors as well. Fantastic ride - one of my favorite series of all time.
05-19-07, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hahn
Yes, one could pick apart small story details. But really, what's the point? Ultimately, you cared a damn lot about what happens to the characters. You feel their nostalgia with them, you feel their sorrow, you feel their joy. Credit where credit is due - all the writers - ASP and the ones from this season - did a great job. It's the entire journey that mattered; not one or two storylines that you didn't like. Kudos to the actors as well. Fantastic ride - one of my favorite series of all time.
05-19-07, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hahn
Credit where credit is due - all the writers - ASP and the ones from this season - did a great job.
I've said before that even though I (and many others) felt the show's plot was letting us down in the sixth season, the quality of the dialogue was still up there. This was just not true in this last season, and to pretend otherwise is to diminish ASP's relevance to the show.
05-19-07, 07:04 PM
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I think people are remembering the ASP era a bit too fondly. There was just as much bitching about the Rory/Lorelai split and Rory's "taking a break from school/jailtime" plotline (among others) as there was about the stuff Rosenthal was coming up with.
That's not to say ASP didn't do a great job, because the early years certainly were the best.
I thought this was a pretty serviceable finale, given where things were left last year. I was thoroughly entertained this year, which is all that matters to me with this show, so I'm going to give Rosenthal a little credit.
That's not to say ASP didn't do a great job, because the early years certainly were the best.
I thought this was a pretty serviceable finale, given where things were left last year. I was thoroughly entertained this year, which is all that matters to me with this show, so I'm going to give Rosenthal a little credit.
05-19-07, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dvd182
I think people are remembering the ASP era a bit too fondly. There was just as much bitching about the Rory/Lorelai split and Rory's "taking a break from school/jailtime" plotline (among others) as there was about the stuff Rosenthal was coming up with.
05-23-07, 02:08 AM
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Question: So, what gives? There is no way you could still be at Fox's upfront party. Did you track down AS-P, and, if so, what were the final four words she had in mind for Gilmore Girls?— Katrina
Ausiello: OK, here's the deal: Yes, I tracked her down, but, no, she did not cough up those elusive four words. But wait — there's more. And it's good. No, amazing. No, un-frakkin'-believable. Amazing, even. Wait, did I say that already? Well, it's true. Because just as I was about to brand her a big ol' promise-breaker right there in front of all those industry types, Amy explained why she couldn't divulge her long-ago-planned Gilmore ending. (Gilmore fanatics: This is the time in Sprockets when you either lean on a heavy object or just sit down.) In the next year or two, she hopes to make — wait for it — a two-hour Gilmore Girls TV-movie that ties up all those loose threads! I nearly fell over when she said it — especially given what she told me back in December. (BTW, lest you think Amy was pulling my leg, her partner in life and in showbiz, Dan Palladino, confirmed that a GG reunion pic is something they're interested in pursuing.) And I wasn't the only one floored by this development. "She said what?" gasped Scott Patterson after I relayed the information to him over the phone. "I didn't think she would be interested in doing something like that. But if she says she is, I would seriously consider it." Alexis Bledel was equally stunned. "A Gilmore Girls reunion?" she said with a laugh. "That's certainly not something I had thought of doing. That's really funny, I have no idea how I would feel in a few years. I don't know, I'm sure the script Amy would write would be great, but I guess I'd have to read it and see how I felt at the time." Last but not least, Lauren Graham e-mailed me late last night to say, "Could be a fun idea if everyone wanted to do it. I would do it just to get the four final words out of Amy. They torture me." Stand by for a comment from Warner Bros. big cheese Peter Roth.
Ausiello: OK, here's the deal: Yes, I tracked her down, but, no, she did not cough up those elusive four words. But wait — there's more. And it's good. No, amazing. No, un-frakkin'-believable. Amazing, even. Wait, did I say that already? Well, it's true. Because just as I was about to brand her a big ol' promise-breaker right there in front of all those industry types, Amy explained why she couldn't divulge her long-ago-planned Gilmore ending. (Gilmore fanatics: This is the time in Sprockets when you either lean on a heavy object or just sit down.) In the next year or two, she hopes to make — wait for it — a two-hour Gilmore Girls TV-movie that ties up all those loose threads! I nearly fell over when she said it — especially given what she told me back in December. (BTW, lest you think Amy was pulling my leg, her partner in life and in showbiz, Dan Palladino, confirmed that a GG reunion pic is something they're interested in pursuing.) And I wasn't the only one floored by this development. "She said what?" gasped Scott Patterson after I relayed the information to him over the phone. "I didn't think she would be interested in doing something like that. But if she says she is, I would seriously consider it." Alexis Bledel was equally stunned. "A Gilmore Girls reunion?" she said with a laugh. "That's certainly not something I had thought of doing. That's really funny, I have no idea how I would feel in a few years. I don't know, I'm sure the script Amy would write would be great, but I guess I'd have to read it and see how I felt at the time." Last but not least, Lauren Graham e-mailed me late last night to say, "Could be a fun idea if everyone wanted to do it. I would do it just to get the four final words out of Amy. They torture me." Stand by for a comment from Warner Bros. big cheese Peter Roth.
This seems like a bad idea.
05-23-07, 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MrX
Man... This made my WEEK!
05-23-07, 05:56 AM
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Usually, I wouldn't like this idea, but given the fact that they did not know officially that the last show was actually the last show of the series, it would give them some time to work out the proper ending. Even though this episode was supposed to be able to serve as a season and series finale, I'd like one that was planned in advance as a series finale.
05-23-07, 08:37 AM
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The possible ASP four words, broken down by character:
LORELEI: “Michel! Take me now!”
RORY: “Mom, Sookie just exploded.”
LUKE: “Jess! Your hands!! Glowing!!!”
LORELEI: “Michel! Take me now!”
RORY: “Mom, Sookie just exploded.”
LUKE: “Jess! Your hands!! Glowing!!!”
05-23-07, 08:39 AM
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I'd like to give ASP a crack and wrapping it with a nice bow.
The interim guys did a credible job of landing the ship, it would be nice to ASP put her final take on her baby
The interim guys did a credible job of landing the ship, it would be nice to ASP put her final take on her baby
05-30-07, 03:14 PM
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I just read about this in TV Guide. I wonder how hard it would be to 'undo' or 'redirect' anything that happened last season that might contradict her planned ending. I suppose this isn't all that different than when Kevin Williamson was called back to do the finale for Dawson's Creek after being off the show for several seasons, except that it actually aired as the proper finale during the series run. She could always do the revisionist history thing and simply ignore any plot developments she didn't like, but that would just confuse and frustrate people even more.
05-30-07, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DRG
I just read about this in TV Guide. I wonder how hard it would be to 'undo' or 'redirect' anything that happened last season that might contradict her planned ending. I suppose this isn't all that different than when Kevin Williamson was called back to do the finale for Dawson's Creek after being off the show for several seasons, except that it actually aired as the proper finale during the series run. She could always do the revisionist history thing and simply ignore any plot developments she didn't like, but that would just confuse and frustrate people even more.
07-02-07, 11:45 PM
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so i just started watching gilmore girls season 1, watched first 3 eps in a row.. then the next 7 on saturday, and then the next 7 on sunday. really good show, glad i still have 6 more seasons (and rest of season 1) to watch 
02-27-15, 03:34 PM
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Re: Gilmore Girls *Series Finale* - "Bon Voyage" - 5/15/07
Just finished rewatching GG on Netflix--finale is still just fine, nothing special. The seventh season is pretty terrible all around though, the dialogue is mostly functional, and so many plotlines are obviously them either not knowing what to do (Lorelai and Christopher getting married and then divorced, Lane having twins after becoming some sort of Christian fundamentalist) or spinning their wheels (April and Luke and the custody battle, Richard's second heart attack, Logan's misadventures in high finance).
The inn is stupidly underused, Rory's new friends are insipid, and with a decade's hindsight all those fresh-faced journalism students fighting for glamorous newspaper careers seem ridiculous. Hell, Rory actually prepares 75 envelopes with paper resumes to mail out. The only decision that sort of works is having Rory go off to write about Obama's first campaign for a website.
I do wonder how the series is doing on Netflix and if there's any chance it would offer ASP a movie or limited run of new episodes to do that reunion storyline.
The inn is stupidly underused, Rory's new friends are insipid, and with a decade's hindsight all those fresh-faced journalism students fighting for glamorous newspaper careers seem ridiculous. Hell, Rory actually prepares 75 envelopes with paper resumes to mail out. The only decision that sort of works is having Rory go off to write about Obama's first campaign for a website.
I do wonder how the series is doing on Netflix and if there's any chance it would offer ASP a movie or limited run of new episodes to do that reunion storyline.
02-27-15, 03:36 PM
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Re: Gilmore Girls *Series Finale* - "Bon Voyage" - 5/15/07
Also, what the hell ever happened with Jackson being town selectman? They just... stopped mentioning it after a while.
