Sopranos Finale TONIGHT!

GizmoDVD · 05-20-01, 09:03 PM

YEAH! HBO!

Bigsteele · 05-20-01, 09:42 PM

I can't believe this they took out Jackie Jr.

GizmoDVD · 05-20-01, 10:01 PM

Yeah, spoiler next time tho. Hehe

TheDude · 05-20-01, 11:10 PM

Wow, are they setting up next season or what(it's as if they didn't want to wrap any storylines up until then)? If someone doesn't mind, what happened in the last minute or so of the episode? (It ran a little long here, and the Tivo didn't get it all)

Patman · 05-20-01, 11:14 PM

Spoiler:

Samuel · 05-20-01, 11:37 PM

Fairuza Balk>>>>Bada Bing!

GuessWho · 05-21-01, 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by Patman

Spoiler:

Ho hum. This was a really anticlimatic mid-arc cliffhanger.

Who the hell ever said there'd be a cliffhanger? They've never had one before... the season always ends with the family together.

Sseason 1, the Soprano immediate family go into the restuaurant to get out of the rain. Season 2, I think it was a dinner table scene.

If you expected a cliff hanger, you set yourself up to be disappointed.

Deftones · 05-21-01, 01:31 AM

apparently, even though i've not seen the episode, i was right that

Spoiler:

would get capped. nice!

bothanspy · 05-21-01, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by Deftones17
apparently, even though i've not seen the episode, i was right that

Spoiler:

Jackie jr.

would get capped. nice!

Its a fair assumption. I think they set up a few interesting plotlines

Spoiler:

Incidentally, in the "previously on the Sopranos" clip, they showed a bunch of stuff involving Gloria. Why? She had nothing to do with the episode. Usually, those reminder clips only show stuff pertinent to the upcoming episode.

It was very sad not to see a "on the next Sopranos" clip at the end

BothanSpy

dave955 · 05-21-01, 02:21 AM

This episode didn't have a season finale feel to me, in that it was setting up new plotlines (the undercover agent, Anthony Jr's misbehavior causing the Sopranos to change the way they treat him) and leaving old ones to be resolved next year, if at all (the Russians, tension between Paulie and lots of folks), instead of wrapping up the season as we knew it. Still, I thought it was a good episode. My father, on the other hand, was very disappointed. As with last year, a major plot thread (Richie last year, Gloria this year) was wrapped up in the second to last episode, and I'm not convinced either was for the better.

The highlight of this season for me is Chris and Paulie lost in the woods two weeks ago. That episode was wonderfully done.

Now begins another long wait...

Patman · 05-21-01, 06:31 AM

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Originally posted by GuessWho

Quote:

Originally posted by Patman

Spoiler:

Ho hum. This was a really anticlimatic mid-arc cliffhanger.

Who the hell ever said there'd be a cliffhanger? They've never had one before... the season always ends with the family together.

Sseason 1, the Soprano immediate family go into the restuaurant to get out of the rain. Season 2, I think it was a dinner table scene.

If you expected a cliff hanger, you set yourself up to be disappointed.

That was due to my understanding that David Chase was viewing Season 3 and 4 as one big long season of 26 episodes, rather than two 13-episode seasons, and basically left countless of plotlines simmering until Season 4.

This was a so-so season finale. Some funny parts with AJ, but something was seriously off with this episode.

cineman · 05-21-01, 08:10 AM

I found the finale to be a revelation. I think that Tony is realizing what his mob lifestyle is costing his family. AJ is acting out and has developed panic attacks. Meadow is increasingly distant and angry. Carmela (unknown to Tony, but he knows something is wrong) has thoughts of leaving Tony. And now, the son of his late best friend, a boy he vowed to help, but failed to keep away from "the life", has now died at the hands of one of his own. Very poignant is you ask me. I can't wait a year though.

das Monkey · 05-21-01, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by cineman
I found the finale to be a revelation. I think that Tony is realizing what his mob lifestyle is costing his family. AJ is acting out and has developed panic attacks. Meadow is increasingly distant and angry. Carmela (unknown to Tony, but he knows something is wrong) has thoughts of leaving Tony. And now, the son of his late best friend, a boy he vowed to help, but failed to keep away from "the life", has now died at the hands of one of his own. Very poignant is you ask me. I can't wait a year though.

Well put ... it's amazing how many "fans" who only started watching the show because they thought it made them "cool" now think the show sucks (not refering to people on this forum so much as people I've met in person). Last night's finale is where "The Sopranos" is at its best ... those looks Tony was giving AJ were priceless.

das

BigDaddy · 05-21-01, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Samuel
Fairuza Balk>>>>Bada Bing!

No kidding my wife hates her but she is a hottie.

G. Noel Gross · 05-21-01, 12:56 PM

Anyone else get the connection between the FBI talking about flipping Christopher and his being picked up at the funeral? This AFTER he tries to make nice with Tony and is pretty much shutdown. (I refuse to believe he'd rat, but it's a plot option).

Great episode. The show simply refuses to conform to any of the forumlas we've come to expect. I think that's why some folks are a little turned off by it at times.

Ketamine · 05-21-01, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by noelgross
Anyone else get the connection between the FBI talking about flipping Christopher and his being picked up at the funeral? This AFTER he tries to make nice with Tony and is pretty much shutdown. (I refuse to believe he'd rat, but it's a plot option).

Great episode. The show simply refuses to conform to any of the forumlas we've come to expect. I think that's why some folks are a little turned off by it at times.

What did I miss? Chris was not picked up by the FBI at the funeral was he? I thought only Silvio was.

Red Dog · 05-21-01, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by carp

Quote:

Originally posted by noelgross
Anyone else get the connection between the FBI talking about flipping Christopher and his being picked up at the funeral? This AFTER he tries to make nice with Tony and is pretty much shutdown. (I refuse to believe he'd rat, but it's a plot option).

Great episode. The show simply refuses to conform to any of the forumlas we've come to expect. I think that's why some folks are a little turned off by it at times.

What did I miss? Chris was not picked up by the FBI at the funeral was he? I thought only Silvio was.

They both were. Don't know if it was the FBI though. Might have been locals since it was just for gambling stuff.

CPA-ESQ. · 05-21-01, 01:52 PM

I'm sick of all these "fan-boys" talking about the Sopranos!!

All they want to see is a "Goodfellas Sitcom" Show me people getting "whacked," tie each episode up in 40minutes, and make sure you pick up where you left off.

AHHHH!! These people miss the emotion, the sense of family, the pain that this lifestyle puts people, families, and those around them through. David Chase has done a wonderful job in portraying this "emotion" and actually developing characters and getting us to "feel" for them both as individuals, as a traditional family, and as the other "family."

This was his original creation and how the show started. And all these Johny-come-latelys just want to see some pointless stereotypical sitcom that they can talk about at the water cooler.

I love this show, and I am sick of people putting it down.

I'm sorry but in real life your problems, issues, and concerns are not wrapped up by the time you go to bed. You carry them with you, and they are the reason you make certain decisions that effect the future. So please don't expect the Sopranos to wrap up every little "problem" that they deal with in 30 minutes, or within 2 episodes. And NO the answer to their problems is to "whack" everybody. This is not realistic, nor is it Chases original concept of this show.

Thank You

dhmac · 05-21-01, 03:31 PM

It was an OK episode but...

...wouldn't last week's episode have been a better season finale? The episode last night was actually more like the first episode of a season, not the last.

Dave99 · 05-21-01, 03:44 PM

Spoiler:

Dave

Yancey · 05-21-01, 04:31 PM

Glad to see that other people are supporting what I have said in these posts for a while now, that it is not so much a mob show as a show about his family. I liked the final episode very much. I agree with the post about Tony seeing how his life affects his family, I really think he wants to get out in one way or another. He seemed so tired throughout the show, like every problem was too big for him to tackle.

I hope Gloria is not gone for good. Richie was taken away too quickly...

GuessWho · 05-21-01, 04:37 PM

Tony's getting fed up with seeing his immediate family torn apart.
Christopher's fiancee will unwillingly be feeding inside info to the FBI.
Uncle Junior wants to smell the roses.
paulie is kissing the asses of the NY mafia...

I think next year, and the series, end with the whole thing coming to an end. Junior wants to enjoy life now, not deal with the business. Chris is going to jail. Tony is either whacked by NY mob or walks away from the business merging his deals tot he NY mob -- orchestrated or sparked by Paulie.

Tony then moves to Florida and raises ducks, helping them learn to fly.

Giantrobo · 05-21-01, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Samuel
Fairuza Balk>>>>Bada Bing!

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN!!!!

SHE's even hotter with BIG HAIR!!!!!

Giantrobo · 05-21-01, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yancey
Glad to see that other people are supporting what I have said in these posts for a while now, that it is not so much a mob show as a show about his family. I liked the final episode very much. I agree with the post about Tony seeing how his life affects his family, I really think he wants to get out in one way or another. He seemed so tired throughout the show, like every problem was too big for him to tackle.

I hope Gloria is not gone for good. Richie was taken away too quickly...

When the show just deals with everyday things of life that's IMHO when it truly shines.

necros · 05-21-01, 09:50 PM

even though I knew it was coming, I was sad to see Jackie Jr. die

I thought it was a great season finale episode though..

My prediction though, Chris is now wired.. cops got him on something, now he comes back tryin to pucker up to Tony's butt..... or is that just what they want ya to think?

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05-20-01, 11:10 PM	#4
TheDude DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,892	Wow, are they setting up next season or what(it's as if they didn't want to wrap any storylines up until then)? If someone doesn't mind, what happened in the last minute or so of the episode? (It ran a little long here, and the Tivo didn't get it all) __________________ XBL Gamertag: inverse cosine

05-20-01, 11:14 PM	#5
Patman DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Duluth, GA, USA Posts: 34,380	Spoiler: Ho hum. This was a really anticlimatic mid-arc cliffhanger. I did think that Meadow was almost getting to get run over as well at the end. I was disappointed that no one else got whacked. __________________ PatCave; HT; DVDs; Dragon*Con 2009 According to DGibFen, I'm a "freaking genius." "Jee-sus, it's like Iwo Jima out there." - Roger Sterling

05-20-01, 11:37 PM	#6
Samuel DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Weird New Jersey Posts: 8,493	Fairuza Balk>>>>Bada Bing! __________________ All things serve the beam.

05-21-01, 01:31 AM	#8
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05-21-01, 02:21 AM	#10
dave955 DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,437	This episode didn't have a season finale feel to me, in that it was setting up new plotlines (the undercover agent, Anthony Jr's misbehavior causing the Sopranos to change the way they treat him) and leaving old ones to be resolved next year, if at all (the Russians, tension between Paulie and lots of folks), instead of wrapping up the season as we knew it. Still, I thought it was a good episode. My father, on the other hand, was very disappointed. As with last year, a major plot thread (Richie last year, Gloria this year) was wrapped up in the second to last episode, and I'm not convinced either was for the better. The highlight of this season for me is Chris and Paulie lost in the woods two weeks ago. That episode was wonderfully done. Now begins another long wait...

05-21-01, 08:10 AM	#12
cineman DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: May 2000 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,637	I found the finale to be a revelation. I think that Tony is realizing what his mob lifestyle is costing his family. AJ is acting out and has developed panic attacks. Meadow is increasingly distant and angry. Carmela (unknown to Tony, but he knows something is wrong) has thoughts of leaving Tony. And now, the son of his late best friend, a boy he vowed to help, but failed to keep away from "the life", has now died at the hands of one of his own. Very poignant is you ask me. I can't wait a year though. __________________ Blue ink is evil...

05-21-01, 12:56 PM	#15
G. Noel Gross CineSchlock-O-Rama Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Dallas Posts: 2,828	Anyone else get the connection between the FBI talking about flipping Christopher and his being picked up at the funeral? This AFTER he tries to make nice with Tony and is pretty much shutdown. (I refuse to believe he'd rat, but it's a plot option). Great episode. The show simply refuses to conform to any of the forumlas we've come to expect. I think that's why some folks are a little turned off by it at times. __________________ CineSchlock-O-Rama \| MySpace \| Texas Frightmare Weekend

05-21-01, 01:52 PM	#18
CPA-ESQ. DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Jul 1999 Posts: 3,421	I'm sick of all these "fan-boys" talking about the Sopranos!! All they want to see is a "Goodfellas Sitcom" Show me people getting "whacked," tie each episode up in 40minutes, and make sure you pick up where you left off. AHHHH!! These people miss the emotion, the sense of family, the pain that this lifestyle puts people, families, and those around them through. David Chase has done a wonderful job in portraying this "emotion" and actually developing characters and getting us to "feel" for them both as individuals, as a traditional family, and as the other "family." This was his original creation and how the show started. And all these Johny-come-latelys just want to see some pointless stereotypical sitcom that they can talk about at the water cooler. I love this show, and I am sick of people putting it down. I'm sorry but in real life your problems, issues, and concerns are not wrapped up by the time you go to bed. You carry them with you, and they are the reason you make certain decisions that effect the future. So please don't expect the Sopranos to wrap up every little "problem" that they deal with in 30 minutes, or within 2 episodes. And NO the answer to their problems is to "whack" everybody. This is not realistic, nor is it Chases original concept of this show. Thank You

05-21-01, 03:31 PM	#19
dhmac DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 3,552	It was an OK episode but... ...wouldn't last week's episode have been a better season finale? The episode last night was actually more like the first episode of a season, not the last.

05-21-01, 03:44 PM	#20
Dave99 DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: US Posts: 5,939	Spoiler: why was Ralphie talking all that smack about wanting to give jackie a pass when he was planning on having him knocked off the entire time? I thought it was a good epsiode also, although I had thought there would be some mention of the russian situation. It will be interesting to see if that or Gloria appears next season when they start to wrap up the series. Anybody have any guesses on how they end the show? As somebody mentioned, all the seasons have ended in a family type of setting. Does chase end the show the same way, showing how the life will always go on, or does he have some major events(s) happen to wipe out the players? Dave

05-21-01, 04:31 PM	#21
Yancey DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: NY, NY Posts: 3,100	Glad to see that other people are supporting what I have said in these posts for a while now, that it is not so much a mob show as a show about his family. I liked the final episode very much. I agree with the post about Tony seeing how his life affects his family, I really think he wants to get out in one way or another. He seemed so tired throughout the show, like every problem was too big for him to tackle. I hope Gloria is not gone for good. Richie was taken away too quickly...

05-21-01, 04:37 PM	#22
GuessWho DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 20,472	Tony's getting fed up with seeing his immediate family torn apart. Christopher's fiancee will unwillingly be feeding inside info to the FBI. Uncle Junior wants to smell the roses. paulie is kissing the asses of the NY mafia... I think next year, and the series, end with the whole thing coming to an end. Junior wants to enjoy life now, not deal with the business. Chris is going to jail. Tony is either whacked by NY mob or walks away from the business merging his deals tot he NY mob -- orchestrated or sparked by Paulie. Tony then moves to Florida and raises ducks, helping them learn to fly.

05-21-01, 09:50 PM	#25
necros DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 1,682	even though I knew it was coming, I was sad to see Jackie Jr. die I thought it was a great season finale episode though.. My prediction though, Chris is now wired.. cops got him on something, now he comes back tryin to pucker up to Tony's butt..... or is that just what they want ya to think?