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Old 10-10-16, 12:27 AM   #51
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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It happens when the battery charges? I remember Samsung first said "caused by external heat source", wouldn't be heat from CPU or screen?
Supposedly charging and heating (leaving them sitting in a car under the Sun for example) would increase the chance of fire or explosion. But there have also been stories of phones burning spontaneously when in someone's pockets.
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Old 10-10-16, 07:19 AM   #52
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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Supposedly charging and heating (leaving them sitting in a car under the Sun for example) would increase the chance of fire or explosion. But there have also been stories of phones burning spontaneously when in someone's pockets.
Or even when the phone was off like in the airplane case.
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Old 10-10-16, 05:22 PM   #53
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

Crap.. Now they have announced they will stop selling them. Again.
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Old 10-10-16, 06:37 PM   #54
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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Crap.. Now they have announced they will stop selling them. Again.
Yup.and To stop using all note 7 and return. This includes the replacements.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/10/1...op-sale-recall
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Old 10-10-16, 08:27 PM   #55
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

That really sucks. I actually like that phone a lot, and was very close to getting it until the first recall.
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Old 10-11-16, 07:17 AM   #56
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

Note 7 cancelled permanently

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Old 10-11-16, 08:33 AM   #57
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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Note 7 cancelled permanently
I really can't tell if Samsung actually meant permanently, or just indefinitely.

From one article:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/...y-discontinued
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We recently readjusted the production volume for thorough investigation and quality control, but putting consumer safety as top priority, we have reached a final decision to halt production of Galaxy Note 7s," Samsung said in a statement on Wednesday. "For the benefit of consumers' safety, we stopped sales and exchanges of the Galaxy Note 7 and have consequently decided to stop production."
So they've stopped production, instead of just slowing down, but it doesn't state anywhere that this halt is permanent.
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Old 10-11-16, 09:09 AM   #58
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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I really can't tell if Samsung actually meant permanently, or just indefinitely.

From one article:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/...y-discontinued


So they've stopped production, instead of just slowing down, but it doesn't state anywhere that this halt is permanent.
I'd say it is.. the Note brand name is now damaged beyond repair.

I'd expect to see a Galaxy S7 XL or S8+ or something along those lines in the future..

Was playing around with my Gear VR, it did a quick update, and then I got a message saying the Note 7 is no longer a supported device. So that killed that..
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Old 10-11-16, 09:15 AM   #59
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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I really can't tell if Samsung actually meant permanently, or just indefinitely.

From one article:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/...y-discontinued


So they've stopped production, instead of just slowing down, but it doesn't state anywhere that this halt is permanent.
At this point it would be a stupid move as the note 7 brand is too tarnished.

I don't think carriers want to deal with it either...
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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I'd say it is.. the Note brand name is now damaged beyond repair.

I'd expect to see a Galaxy S7 XL or S8+ or something along those lines in the future..

Was playing around with my Gear VR, it did a quick update, and then I got a message saying the Note 7 is no longer a supported device. So that killed that..
Right... Samsung is going to pull all support and i would imagine at some time push a brick update.
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Old 10-11-16, 09:25 AM   #61
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

I think they have already lost too much of the life cycle of a flagship phone to try to recover, so they want to focus on making the next generation right. It does make me wonder about the exact problem because it is now clear that it was not limited to a bad batch or a single factory. It must be the design of the battery or design of the manufacturing process.

Regardless of what they call the next phone, I hope they keep the idea of making a "Note" phone with a pen as its signature feature.
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Regardless of what they call the next phone, I hope they keep the idea of making a "Note" phone with a pen as its signature feature.
Agreed. This phone actually has a few features I really like .. which most would consider pretty minor. Like 64gb of internal memory instead of 32. I load a lot of apps and while some can be moved to the SD card.. quite a few can not. With my Note 4 it was an issue. I also liked the "Always On" additions.. far more options than on the S7. And, of course, the Pen.
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Old 10-11-16, 09:54 AM   #63
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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At this point it would be a stupid move as the note 7 brand is too tarnished.

I don't think carriers want to deal with it either...
I'm wondering if they'll attempt a redesign of the Note 7 and re-release it under modified name in a few months, or just scrap it completely and wait for the Note 8 to come out.
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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I'm wondering if they'll attempt a redesign of the Note 7 and re-release it under modified name in a few months, or just scrap it completely and wait for the Note 8 to come out.
I don't think that they are going to because, if even one of those exploded... Man it would be really really bad.

I mean even if the failure rate is similar to other phones on this revised one, every single failure will be looked through with a fine tooth comb.
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Old 10-11-16, 10:17 AM   #65
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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Agreed. This phone actually has a few features I really like .. which most would consider pretty minor. Like 64gb of internal memory instead of 32. I load a lot of apps and while some can be moved to the SD card.. quite a few can not. With my Note 4 it was an issue. I also liked the "Always On" additions.. far more options than on the S7. And, of course, the Pen.
I would imagine that the aod features on the note 7 can be added to the s7

Probably the hardest thing would be the pen.
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Old 10-12-16, 08:20 AM   #66
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

Samsung's return kit includes a thermal-insulated box in case it catches fire in transit, and safety gloves:
http://www.xda-developers.com/samsun...safety-gloves/
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Old 10-12-16, 08:43 AM   #67
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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I'm wondering if they'll attempt a redesign of the Note 7 and re-release it under modified name in a few months, or just scrap it completely and wait for the Note 8 to come out.
I'll be surprised if they ever release a Note 8 - or any other "Note". The brand damage is too great.

The one little piece of good luck Samsung had was that Google's new Pixel is Verizon only -- at least its dedicate Android customers in the US are likely to stay with other Samsung phones.
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Old 10-12-16, 09:00 AM   #68
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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I'll be surprised if they ever release a Note 8 - or any other "Note". The brand damage is too great.

The one little piece of good luck Samsung had was that Google's new Pixel is Verizon only -- at least its dedicate Android customers in the US are likely to stay with other Samsung phones.
Verizon is the only carrier selling it but you can buy it unlocked from Google, best Buy and what not for usage on all carriers.
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Old 10-12-16, 09:39 AM   #69
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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Samsung's return kit includes a thermal-insulated box in case it catches fire in transit, and safety gloves:
http://www.xda-developers.com/samsun...safety-gloves/
Seems about right. My company deals with big-ass lithium batteries. Our handling/shipping of them is strictly regulated. I know phone batteries are a different type, but the idea is the same. That shit's fine when it's stable and handled properly, but when it's volatile... run. And don't breathe in the fumes. They're pretty dangerous when they're completely drained (more so than batteries that are partially drained, apparently)
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Old 10-12-16, 06:52 PM   #70
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

I don't know when that started, but nowadays when big companies like amazon or phone carriers ship devices with Li-ion batteries, they will have a label outside the box saying so. When I take a package to the USPS for shipment, they also ask me if there is a Li-ion battery inside.

It's been like that for at least a year now, before the Note7 problem. Of course fire-insulated boxes and gloves take it to a different level.
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Old 10-12-16, 09:21 PM   #71
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

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I don't know when that started, but nowadays when big companies like amazon or phone carriers ship devices with Li-ion batteries, they will have a label outside the box saying so. When I take a package to the USPS for shipment, they also ask me if there is a Li-ion battery inside.

It's been like that for at least a year now, before the Note7 problem. Of course fire-insulated boxes and gloves take it to a different level.
My phones from Verizon didn't include that label including the note 7. But I have seen it before.
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Old 10-13-16, 07:44 AM   #72
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

New recall is official. 23 new cases

https://www.google.com/amp/bgr.com/2...?client=safari
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

Samsung will give you $100 if you buy another Samsung device

https://www.google.com/amp/gizmodo.c...?client=safari
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Old 10-13-16, 10:33 AM   #74
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.theve...?client=safari

Samsung didn't even know why it is catching fire
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Old 10-14-16, 05:18 PM   #75
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Re: US Government urges Note 7 users to turn off and stop using the phone

Faa has banned the note 7 even from being brought on an airplane , even off

https://www.transportation.gov/brief...ones-airplanes
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