Windows 7 Discussion Thread - Page 4

Jeremy517 · 05-01-09, 05:13 PM

RC1 is on MSDN as of yesterday, if anyone else is a subscriber.

fumanstan · 05-01-09, 05:15 PM

Yeah, I'm downloading the RC1 build and debating installing it at home to replace my Vista Ultimate install.

Nazgul · 05-01-09, 10:53 PM

I put the x64 version on my 'Test" PC at work, so we'll see how it goes.

zuffy · 05-02-09, 02:16 PM

So far so good. I installed the 32-bit version in a Pentium 4 3.06GHz w/HT. 4GB of RAM but only 3.25GB is useable. ATI Radeon Pro 9800. VelociRaptor drive. Performance is pretty good. No issues with Virtual CloneDrive, Maxthon. Definitely better than the beta version.

fumanstan · 05-05-09, 02:16 PM

The public RC is out now.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../download.aspx

al_bundy · 05-05-09, 02:25 PM

installed the 64 bit version and downloaded the Virtual PC/Win XP beta software. had to reboot a few times after i enabled virtualization in the bios.

Manco · 05-05-09, 08:43 PM

Anyone having trouble with their mouse cursor freezing? When this happens the touchpad on my laptop won''t work either. I have to force it off to unfreeze everything. I have Logitech VX Nano.

al_bundy · 05-06-09, 08:12 AM

not me

i think the virtual PC thing is a bit flaky and slow. seemed like vmware was faster

Raul3 · 05-06-09, 01:56 PM

Has anyone tried streaming to an Xbox?
You are suppose to be able to stream audio and video, and it also converts formats on the fly, kinda like TVersity.

twikoff · 05-06-09, 08:45 PM

hmmmm.. Im using win7, but still use tversity

twikoff · 05-06-09, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by al_bundy

not me

i think the virtual PC thing is a bit flaky and slow. seemed like vmware was faster

were you using it as a hyper visor and actually creating a virtual environment

or were you trying the new 'xp mode'?
i havent tested xp mode, but from what Ive read.. it sounds like the benefits of a virtual machine, without the extra layer

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/200...p_mode_review/
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx

fumanstan · 05-06-09, 08:52 PM

My coworker was using XP Mode with some Server 2K3 tools and it seems to be fine and plenty fast, like it was any other app.

twikoff · 05-06-09, 08:56 PM

btw.. I have been using the 32bit beta of win7 for awhile now at home.. no issues

running the 64bit version on my work machine, (T5400 with 2 x quad core procs, 8 gb ram, scsi perc card and 10k drives)... tried to do an 'upgrade' to win7 64bit and it would make it almost to the end and then blue screen..

it does a good job of rolling back to the previous OS.. so thats a big improvement on failed upgrades..

i guess ill have to wait till i have time to move my data and do a fresh install

and of course.. at home Ill have to either do a fresh upgrade to rc1, or deal with the work around on trying to upgrade the beta to rc1

ATX · 05-07-09, 06:55 AM

gotdamn

i installed the 32-bit version on my extra computer yesterday (already had xp pro on it; now it's dual-boot)

tried a couple of the *windows 7* anti-virus builds kaspersky and another one and i get blue screens with both

also tried my trusty goto avast and bluescreen also

the bluescreens occur after reboot

which one works the best with less problems?

i think Norton is the next on the list to try...

twikoff · 05-07-09, 07:58 AM

avast works fine on my windows 7 machine

zuffy · 05-07-09, 09:11 AM

Symantec Endpoint works fine with Windows 7.

RichC2 · 05-07-09, 09:22 AM

Avast and AVG work here without issue, sounds like a hardware issue (Windows Vista/7 have different memory management than Windows XP, perhaps some bad RAM?)

Raul3 · 05-07-09, 09:27 AM

Avast works fine in Windows 7 (32 bit) in my netbook.

Jay G. · 05-07-09, 11:49 AM

An interesting new feature of Windows 7 is the ability to install it to a VHD (Virtual Hard Drive) file. So if someone wants to dual boot their system with Win7 RC, but doesn't want to partition their drive, you can follow these instructions:
http://www.geekeleet.com/index.php/2...ws-7-on-a-vhd/

Another guide, with better screenshots:
http://blogs.msdn.com/knom/archive/2...guideline.aspx

Note that this isn't a virtualized Windows 7 install. Windows 7 has direct access to all hardware, and boots the same as if it was on its own partition. The VHD file stands in for the alternate partition.

twikoff · 05-07-09, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay G.

An interesting new feature of Windows 7 is the ability to install it to a VHD (Virtual Hard Drive) file. So if someone wants to dual boot their system with Win7 RC, but doesn't want to partition their drive, you can follow these instructions:
http://www.geekeleet.com/index.php/2...ws-7-on-a-vhd/

Note that this isn't a virtualized Windows 7 install. Windows 7 has direct access to all hardware, and boots the same as if it was on its own partition. The VHD file stands in for the alternate partition.

yea.. since i kept getting a bluescreen when trying to upgrade my vista 64 machine to 7rc1 64. i went ahead today and formatted and installed fresh..
typically i prefer to install fresh, so no complaints

but prior to formatting.. i used vistas 'full system backup' option.. I noticed that it backed up my drives as VHD files... no option to do individual file restores using this form of backup, but it appears that i can now point to those files to boot into my old vista install, if i came up with something Im missing..

havent checked on whether i could install virtual pc and mount it a virtual machine... but i would almost assume so.. could probably convert it with vmware as well.

Jay G. · 05-07-09, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twikoff

but prior to formatting.. i used vistas 'full system backup' option.. I noticed that it backed up my drives as VHD files... no option to do individual file restores using this form of backup, but it appears that i can now point to those files to boot into my old vista install, if i came up with something Im missing..

You can mount the VHDs as drives in Windows 7 in order to access any files. No booting necessary.
http://thelazyadmin.com/blogs/thelaz...r-2008-r2.aspx

Or, if you do want to boot Vista again, you can probably boot into the VHD by making a new entry in the BCD bootloader:
http://thelazyadmin.com/blogs/thelaz...r-2008-r2.aspx

EasyBCD 2.0 will include support for adding VHDs to the bootloader.
http://neosmart.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3269

ATX · 05-07-09, 04:31 PM

yeah, maybe it is my hardware,

just strange that only antivirus installs cause a BSOD

i got regular old kingston 667 memory in there

will play with it later on

---

figured out the problem; something had went horribly wrong with the chipset drivers the 1st go round

i just reinstalled windows 7 and did the nvidia drivers autodetect and got the newest (ironically the drivers it downloaded doesnt match my actual chipset, but windows 7 seems to like them)

avast installed perfectly this time and no crashing or bluescreens

CJohn · 05-08-09, 10:45 AM

I tried 7 after using Vista for a while and liked it. It was pretty quick and I liked how the folders were set out, with a main area that scans your video/music and picture folders and shows them in one place.

My RAM usage running idle also dropped 8% from 23% using 8GB of RAM

Chrisedge · 05-08-09, 05:18 PM

Did they put the "Classic Menu" back in? (I haven't loaded it yet)

RockyMtnBri · 05-08-09, 05:28 PM

I'm planning on installing this on an old 80 GB drive and playing with it this weekend. We'll see how it goes.

05-01-09, 05:13 PM	#76
Jeremy517 DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Newberg, OR Posts: 14,193	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread RC1 is on MSDN as of yesterday, if anyone else is a subscriber.

05-01-09, 05:15 PM	#77
fumanstan DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 22,216	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread Yeah, I'm downloading the RC1 build and debating installing it at home to replace my Vista Ultimate install. __________________ XBox Live: Fu Man Stan "I've never derived "joy" from either comicbooks or torture porn, so you can imagine how I feel about the mainstream marriage of the two in The Dark Knight" - baracine

05-01-09, 10:53 PM	#78
Nazgul DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jayhawk Central, Kansas Posts: 6,583	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread I put the x64 version on my 'Test" PC at work, so we'll see how it goes. __________________ 2008 National Champions, Kansas Jayhawks Ain't no seats! 2008 Stanley Cup Champions, Detroit Red Wings 2008 NBA Champions, Boston Celtics "Dissent Is the Highest Form of Patriotism" - This still applies, right?

05-02-09, 02:16 PM	#79
zuffy DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Region 1 Posts: 15,421	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread So far so good. I installed the 32-bit version in a Pentium 4 3.06GHz w/HT. 4GB of RAM but only 3.25GB is useable. ATI Radeon Pro 9800. VelociRaptor drive. Performance is pretty good. No issues with Virtual CloneDrive, Maxthon. Definitely better than the beta version. __________________ My Photo Gallery

05-05-09, 02:16 PM	#80
fumanstan DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 22,216	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread The public RC is out now. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../download.aspx __________________ XBox Live: Fu Man Stan "I've never derived "joy" from either comicbooks or torture porn, so you can imagine how I feel about the mainstream marriage of the two in The Dark Knight" - baracine

05-05-09, 02:25 PM	#81
al_bundy DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Transfatfreeville Posts: 22,214	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread installed the 64 bit version and downloaded the Virtual PC/Win XP beta software. had to reboot a few times after i enabled virtualization in the bios.

05-05-09, 08:43 PM	#82
Manco Senior Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Pittsburgh,PA Posts: 976	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread Anyone having trouble with their mouse cursor freezing? When this happens the touchpad on my laptop won''t work either. I have to force it off to unfreeze everything. I have Logitech VX Nano. __________________ Manco's DVDs Import DVD's What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the women!

05-06-09, 08:12 AM	#83
al_bundy DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Transfatfreeville Posts: 22,214	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread not me i think the virtual PC thing is a bit flaky and slow. seemed like vmware was faster

05-06-09, 01:56 PM	#84
Raul3 DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Picture a cup in the middle of the sea Posts: 2,887	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread Has anyone tried streaming to an Xbox? You are suppose to be able to stream audio and video, and it also converts formats on the fly, kinda like TVersity. __________________ --------- Xbox Live: rsra13 PSN: rsra13

05-06-09, 08:45 PM	#85
twikoff DVD Talk God Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Right Behind You!!! Posts: 76,290	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread hmmmm.. Im using win7, but still use tversity __________________ "if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way." - Homer Simpson

05-06-09, 08:52 PM	#87
fumanstan DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 22,216	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread My coworker was using XP Mode with some Server 2K3 tools and it seems to be fine and plenty fast, like it was any other app. __________________ XBox Live: Fu Man Stan "I've never derived "joy" from either comicbooks or torture porn, so you can imagine how I feel about the mainstream marriage of the two in The Dark Knight" - baracine

05-06-09, 08:56 PM	#88
twikoff DVD Talk God Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Right Behind You!!! Posts: 76,290	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread btw.. I have been using the 32bit beta of win7 for awhile now at home.. no issues running the 64bit version on my work machine, (T5400 with 2 x quad core procs, 8 gb ram, scsi perc card and 10k drives)... tried to do an 'upgrade' to win7 64bit and it would make it almost to the end and then blue screen.. it does a good job of rolling back to the previous OS.. so thats a big improvement on failed upgrades.. i guess ill have to wait till i have time to move my data and do a fresh install and of course.. at home Ill have to either do a fresh upgrade to rc1, or deal with the work around on trying to upgrade the beta to rc1 __________________ "if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way." - Homer Simpson

05-07-09, 06:55 AM	#89
ATX Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 364	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread gotdamn i installed the 32-bit version on my extra computer yesterday (already had xp pro on it; now it's dual-boot) tried a couple of the windows 7 anti-virus builds kaspersky and another one and i get blue screens with both also tried my trusty goto avast and bluescreen also the bluescreens occur after reboot which one works the best with less problems? i think Norton is the next on the list to try...

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twikoff DVD Talk God Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Right Behind You!!! Posts: 76,290	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread avast works fine on my windows 7 machine __________________ "if you don't like your job you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way." - Homer Simpson

05-07-09, 09:11 AM	#91
zuffy DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Region 1 Posts: 15,421	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread Symantec Endpoint works fine with Windows 7. __________________ My Photo Gallery

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05-07-09, 09:27 AM	#93
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05-07-09, 11:49 AM	#94
Jay G. DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,033	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread An interesting new feature of Windows 7 is the ability to install it to a VHD (Virtual Hard Drive) file. So if someone wants to dual boot their system with Win7 RC, but doesn't want to partition their drive, you can follow these instructions: http://www.geekeleet.com/index.php/2...ws-7-on-a-vhd/ Another guide, with better screenshots: http://blogs.msdn.com/knom/archive/2...guideline.aspx Note that this isn't a virtualized Windows 7 install. Windows 7 has direct access to all hardware, and boots the same as if it was on its own partition. The VHD file stands in for the alternate partition. Last edited by Jay G.; 05-08-09 at 02:54 PM.

05-07-09, 04:31 PM	#97
ATX Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 364	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread yeah, maybe it is my hardware, just strange that only antivirus installs cause a BSOD i got regular old kingston 667 memory in there will play with it later on --- figured out the problem; something had went horribly wrong with the chipset drivers the 1st go round i just reinstalled windows 7 and did the nvidia drivers autodetect and got the newest (ironically the drivers it downloaded doesnt match my actual chipset, but windows 7 seems to like them) avast installed perfectly this time and no crashing or bluescreens Last edited by ATX; 05-08-09 at 04:38 AM. Reason: update

05-08-09, 10:45 AM	#98
CJohn Cool New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 21	Re: Windows 7 Discussion Thread I tried 7 after using Vista for a while and liked it. It was pretty quick and I liked how the folders were set out, with a main area that scans your video/music and picture folders and shows them in one place. My RAM usage running idle also dropped 8% from 23% using 8GB of RAM __________________ Toshiba 42" 1080p Xbox 360 Elite GeForce 9600GT with HDMI connection Logitech Z5500 5.1 Over 3TB of HD/BR Movies

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