usenet vs torrent - Page 3

dtcarson · 06-01-06, 06:49 PM

Pars are very helpful, but yes, you need to have a certain percentage of the files to be able to recreate the rest of them. It could be like twikoff says, some of the parts have already expired on the server, or your server has a problem with completion.
Sometimes if you have 'parts of a part', if that makes sense, the pars can recreate it as well.

kitkat · 06-01-06, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by darkside

I used to use usenet, but since I switched to SBC Yahoo here in San Antonio I haven't been able to find a news server. I'm guessing they don't offer one here.

You should have one. In the bay area it's news.sf.sbcglobal.net. There's also news.sbcglobal.net, but I think it's read only. that may have changed.

Silt · 06-01-06, 09:56 PM

I used to use newsgroups (NewsBin Pro + .nzbs) exclusively until Cox's newsgroup retention went down the shitter in the past year or so. As I don't want to pay for a real newsgroup service, I find myself using torrents more and more.

Currently if I can't grab a quick .nzb, I don't bother with newsgroups...it's just too time consuming to get what I want/need without them. It's far easier and faster to click a link or two to start a torrent than it is to deal with dling headers, search through the headers for what I want, download, run QuickPar, and then finally extract the file(s). As I normally remote home from work to start my torrents, download time isn't an issue for me as I don't care if it runs all day....though it's not often I find I'm getting slow dl speeds from a torrent.

For my friends that are new to dling...I always point them to bittorrent first and give them this link for a how-to on newsgroups if they want to try them.

Nosebleed · 06-02-06, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by twikoff

this is another instance of why i dont understand why you would want an nzb file.. you need to be able to track down fills and such

Just search for the filename then grab the files from another group or newer posting, if possible. That seems easier than scouring multiple newsgroups for a handful of files.

BTW T-bone22, if the newsreader you're using can look on multiple servers to complete files, then load a bunch of the rr.com news servers into the program and let it try to complete the files that way. You may find some files on the east coast, for example, are complete on the west coast.

atlantamoi · 06-02-06, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mordred

I found a program called Grabit which is wonderful. It allows me to DL everything I can from Roadrunner, then if I still need fills, I can DL them from Astraweb

I use the same setup, except BellSouth instead of RR. I've only tried Grabit and see no reason to stop using it. Very pleased with how it works. My ISP supposedly only has 48 hour retention and so I just use the pay-as-you go for fills from Astraweb. Hardly ever need it.

I went w/out using QuickPar for a couple of months when I first started using Newsgroups and can't believe how indespensible that program is, especially for low retention servers.

06-01-06, 06:49 PM	#51
dtcarson DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Triangle, NC, USA Posts: 7,309	Pars are very helpful, but yes, you need to have a certain percentage of the files to be able to recreate the rest of them. It could be like twikoff says, some of the parts have already expired on the server, or your server has a problem with completion. Sometimes if you have 'parts of a part', if that makes sense, the pars can recreate it as well.

06-01-06, 09:56 PM	#53
Silt Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 562	I used to use newsgroups (NewsBin Pro + .nzbs) exclusively until Cox's newsgroup retention went down the shitter in the past year or so. As I don't want to pay for a real newsgroup service, I find myself using torrents more and more. Currently if I can't grab a quick .nzb, I don't bother with newsgroups...it's just too time consuming to get what I want/need without them. It's far easier and faster to click a link or two to start a torrent than it is to deal with dling headers, search through the headers for what I want, download, run QuickPar, and then finally extract the file(s). As I normally remote home from work to start my torrents, download time isn't an issue for me as I don't care if it runs all day....though it's not often I find I'm getting slow dl speeds from a torrent. For my friends that are new to dling...I always point them to bittorrent first and give them this link for a how-to on newsgroups if they want to try them.