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Old 08-10-05, 06:35 PM   #1
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Compaq laptop won't turn on, SOL? Need to get files off HD.

My old compaq presario 1500 laptop won't turn on. The first symptoms of this was when I would close the cover and instead of the screen turning off, when I open the cover again, the screen is white. Nothing I did seemed to register. I had to force a manual shutdown (bad, I know).

It turned back on at a later time (the next time) w/o problems. However, the same thing happened again when I closed the lid --> manual shutdown.

The next time I tried to turn it on, no dice. The green light that signals the computer has been turned on comes lit, but the usual sounds and sights of the computer turning on are not there. The only sound I hear is the initial sound of the HD starting to spin, but then that's it. It still responds to manual shutdown. No screen confirmations, nothing.

Background on this laptop that may or may not be relevent is that I dropped it once and the DVD-Rom no longer works but the burner still does (same drive). That was a few years ago. I've had this laptop for at least 4 years.

What can I do to get my files off of this? I have another laptop already that I am ready to use as a replacement, but I need some of the personal files that are on it.
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Old 08-11-05, 09:55 AM   #2
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One thing you can try is to remove the Hard Drive from the laptop and put it in the other one. At least then you'll see if the HD died or if something else in the laptop did.

Then, if your other laptop has a burner, you can burn your data to CD/DVD and then put it's original drive back in, etc...
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Old 08-11-05, 04:08 PM   #3
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I was hoping that wouldn't be my only alternative (aside from paying someone to fix it of course). I have never taken a laptop apart before. The most I've done as far as removing/installing hardware is installing an upgrade to a PC's memory and a CD-R drive.

Any other suggestions out there?
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Old 08-11-05, 04:22 PM   #4
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Get one of those USB external enclosure. Now, you can connect the hard drive to your other laptop or computer as a USB device and it will be a piece of cake to copy the data.
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Old 08-11-05, 04:34 PM   #5
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One of these things would do the job...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812156001

I have one and only tried it with a very picky computer's USB and it didn't work. But it should work on most systems.
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Old 08-11-05, 04:59 PM   #6
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X, how would that cable help if the computer doesn't turn on? Unless you're suggesting that if I connect that cable to the malfunctioning laptop's "monitor" port (?) and to the new laptop's USB, then I can access the drive even though the old laptop doesn't turn on?
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Old 08-11-05, 05:07 PM   #7
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You would need another computer to plug it into.
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Old 08-11-05, 07:03 PM   #8
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right, two computers. I have two laptops and a desktop that I no longer use (but still functions). So I connect the two laptops, turn on the good one and that's it? I will be able to access the HD of the bad laptop via the good one?

If so, $14.99 is a good price to pay to solve my problems.
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Old 08-11-05, 07:06 PM   #9
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You will have to take the drive out of the bad laptop and connect it to the unit.

Remember to factor in the shipping cost. There might be places to get it for a dollar or two less total. Mine was $16 shipped but they raised the price to $19 I believe.
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Old 08-13-05, 01:44 PM   #10
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No no no you need a laptop drive to normal desktop IDE interface adapter. You plug it in and put it in another computer running XP would be the easiest. You can back your data up into a folder on the desktop. Remember if you're having problems with the access denied you MUST take ownership of the files you wish to back up so if it was me Id take ownership of the whole drive and then copy it to the desktop.


What you will need

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=906&sku=17705&engine=adwords!654&keyword=%28laptop+to+ide+drive+adapter%29

You could also do this to keep it as an extra drive when you get a new computer or whatever

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817145124
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Old 08-13-05, 02:03 PM   #11
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No no no you need a laptop drive to normal desktop IDE interface adapter. You plug it in and put it in another computer running XP would be the easiest. You can back your data up into a folder on the desktop. Remember if you're having problems with the access denied you MUST take ownership of the files you wish to back up so if it was me Id take ownership of the whole drive and then copy it to the desktop.


What you will need

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=906&sku=17705&engine=adwords!654&keyword=%28laptop+to+ide+drive+adapter%29

You could also do this to keep it as an extra drive when you get a new computer or whatever

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817145124
so that means I sort of have two options to read the HD of the problem laptop.

1) use the adapter suggested by X, connect the HD (after it is removed from the bad laptop) to my other GOOD laptop and read the drive.

2) use the adapter suggested by BeanDip0001, connect the HD to my desktop. But the desktop has to be running XP as well, correct?

My two laptops run XP, while the desktop is older and run 98SE. According to BeanDip0001, I would have an easier time if both HDs have XP running, which would mean I need to go with option 1.

Do I have that correct?
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Old 08-13-05, 02:09 PM   #12
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You can use BeanDip's adapter but you'll have to open your desktop and hook the drive to a new or existing IDE cable connected to the desktop. But you'd probably have problems reading the XP drive from Win 98SE, so you'll need to hook up to your other laptop. That means you need a USB interface.

I found something that might even be nicer for you than what I suggested previously.

http://www.acortech.com/.sc/ms/dd/11...um%20Enclosure

This would let you use a drive externally if you ever wanted instead of just being a diagnostic type device.
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Old 08-13-05, 07:19 PM   #13
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Right on! Both running XP will be working fine, the problem is without some extra software your 98 machine wouldn't even be able to read data off the drive that XP on it due to different file structure. In any case the easy option would be either getting the external case I recommended or the one that X recommended it will make your life easier. If you have any problems finding your files let us know and we'll help out there as well!
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Old 08-14-05, 03:40 PM   #14
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thanks for the offer. I'll definitely do that when/if i get stuck.
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Old 08-23-05, 10:51 AM   #15
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Would the following item:
http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2....rod_id=1562383

be equivalent to:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817145124

I would prefer to order from Overstock only because I have a coupon remaining that would work out better for me in terms of price. Would the item at Overstock serve my needs (to pull a harddrive from my old laptop and read the files off of it using my new laptop)? Thanks!
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Old 08-23-05, 11:57 AM   #16
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You would need a 2.5" notebook drive to 3.5" PC drive IDE adapter with that Overstock case since it's made for the larger drives.

This looks like a better one for you. Only USB though.

http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2....rod_id=1138519
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Old 08-23-05, 12:34 PM   #17
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I have never had luck getting a 2.5->3.5 adapter to work in an external enclosure. I have had them work without fail in desktop PC's, however.

If you're going to use the external enclosure method, get the one X suggests, a 2.5 native one.

I would suggest installing XP on your desktop and using it with an adapter instead, however. I always prefer to keep copies of important documents on PC's other than laptops, for the simple reason that laptops get moved about and dropped and such, and bulky boxes generally don't.
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Old 08-23-05, 01:22 PM   #18
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Here are some cheaper ones:

http://www.surpluscomputers.com/stor...&item=ACC10790 (90 days warranty)

http://www.acortech.com/.sc/ms/dd/11...um%20Enclosure (1 year warranty)
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Old 08-23-05, 06:36 PM   #19
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thanks. i decided to save the coupon (most likely for a DVD purchase) from Overstock and go with your acortech item, X

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