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Old 03-30-05, 09:58 PM   #1
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Decision Made to Disallow Private Registrations for .US Domain Names

Please take a second to sign the petition:

http://www.thedangerofnoprivacy.com


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This is NOT how our government is supposed to operate. Immediate repercussions for .US domain owners include:

LOSS OF protection from stalkers and harassers.
LOSS OF protection against solicitation and unwelcome visitors for home-based Web businesses.
LOSS OF protection for loved ones associated with a family Web site or domain name.
LOSS OF protection against SPAM and phishing (an email falsely claiming to be a legitimate enterprise in an attempt to scam the user into surrendering private information that will be used for identity theft).
LOSS OF protection against attempts to steal identities and/or money.
LOSS OF protection against general solicitations via phone and/or fax.
LOSS OF the right to operate a Web site anonymously.
LOSS OF the ability to speak anonymously (a First Amendment right confirmed by the Supreme Court).
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Old 03-30-05, 10:09 PM   #2
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I think I actually have to sign this.

My initial instinct was that the denial was the correct course of action. I thought about the special rules on .gov, .mil, and .edu, and thought, "Isn't the .us domain for official sites of the United States of America? Why should private individuals and companies have a right to expressions ostensibly on behalf of the USA?"

But then I realized that my observation simply begs the question: What is the USA? - i.e., what sites would go under .us? We already have .gov for government sites, etc. So why restrict it? Currently, sites like "www.state.oh.us" (the website of the government of the State of Ohio) are on .us - but in truth, shouldn't those move to www.oh.gov? They are government sites.

The tiebreaker here was realizing that other national-domain sites - .tv, .uk, .ru, .ca - are completely open to private registration.

So, yeah, I'm signing. I encourage everyone else to do the same. Thanks, Chad.

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Old 03-30-05, 10:22 PM   #3
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I'm still confused on how this is so terribly bad, and just what does "Private Registration" mean. Maybe someone can elaborate more on this?
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Old 03-30-05, 11:09 PM   #4
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I'm still confused on how this is so terribly bad, and just what does "Private Registration" mean. Maybe someone can elaborate more on this?
Sure. It's just about whether you can register a domain within the .us Top-Level Domain (TLD). That's you, your company, your organization, etc.

The real question is: why shouldn't you be able to secure this? I presume the motivation behind the ruling is to prevent people from posting objectionable content on any website ending in .us; presumably, only the federal government will have the power to do that.

The general idea of top-level domains with specific requirements is hardly novel. Only government agencies can register .gov domains; only recognized educational institutions can register .edu domains; etc. So in general, this is fine.

But what's weird about reserving .us is that no other nation has a similar restriction - not to my knowledge. Plenty of private websites end in .ca (Canada), .uk (United Kingdom of course), .fr, .de (Germany), .ru, .cn (China), .au (Australia), .jp (Japan), etc.

So why is the U.S. federal government seeking such a restriction? Isn't that kind of weird, given our place in the world as a leader in freedom of expression?

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Old 03-31-05, 12:00 AM   #5
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From my understanding "Private" in this sense means your contact information is not accessible when doing whois lookups.

When you register a domain you can usually choose whether you want your contact information published or hidden. If you choose to have it hidden Registrars (like godaddy.com) will register it by proxy (at least I think that's what it's called). With the .us domain I believe that they are not going to allow proxy (i.e. private) registration, so everyone who registers a .us domain will have their information available for the world to see (not a big deal to me since all the domains I have are public).

Feel free to correct me if I got anything wrong.
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Old 03-31-05, 02:32 AM   #6
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From my understanding "Private" in this sense means your contact information is not accessible when doing whois lookups.

When you register a domain you can usually choose whether you want your contact information published or hidden. If you choose to have it hidden Registrars (like godaddy.com) will register it by proxy (at least I think that's what it's called). With the .us domain I believe that they are not going to allow proxy (i.e. private) registration, so everyone who registers a .us domain will have their information available for the world to see (not a big deal to me since all the domains I have are public).

Feel free to correct me if I got anything wrong.
That was my understanding as well, based on previous discussions of this issue I have seen online in the past couple of months.
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Old 03-31-05, 02:34 AM   #7
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Yeah, sivadc is correct. You can still register for a top-level .us domain. You just cannot choose the "make private" option.

As ".us" belongs to the USA, I don't see a big problem with this (yet). There are plenty of other domains to choose from. Each TLD can do what it chooses, no? I mean, ".tv" is charging a $29.95 fee when most others are charging $9.95 or less. I just think of it as ".tv" wants to charge more, ".us" doesn't want to allow private registration, ".abc" has this feature, ".xyz" doesn't have this feature, etc.
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Old 03-31-05, 11:20 AM   #8
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On the other hand if you allow private registration it will make online theft a lot easier.
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Old 03-31-05, 01:55 PM   #9
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On the other hand if you allow private registration it will make online theft a lot easier.
And see an increase in the number of child porn websites.
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Old 04-02-05, 03:16 PM   #10
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I will NOT sign this.
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Old 04-02-05, 03:26 PM   #11
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Yeah, sivadc is correct. You can still register for a top-level .us domain. You just cannot choose the "make private" option.
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