Release List Reviews Shop Join News DVD Giveaways Video Games Advertise
DVD Reviews | Theatrical Reviews | Adult DVD Reviews | Video Game Reviews | Price Search Buy Stuff Here
DVD Talk
DVD Reviews DVD Talk Headlines HD Reviews


Add to My Yahoo! - RSS 2.0 - RSS 2.0 - DVD Talk Podcast RSS -


Go Back   DVD Talk Forum > General Discussions > Tech Talk

Tech Talk Discuss PC Hardware, Software, Internet and Other Technology

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-26-02, 05:41 PM   #1
John Sy
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: I left my heart in.....South Plainfield, NJ
Posts: 2,998
Need an Education about Video Cards

So here I am playing Madden 2003 for the PC and had to use like medium detail to get a reasonable frame rate when I was thinking what I should do to get to play at max level with all the details turned on. I figured that the easiest way for me to do that is to upgrade my video card. I have a Pentium III 500 MHz processor (I don't think you can upgrade this), 384 MB of RAM (which is plenty, I think) and a pathetic 16 MB nVidia TNT video card.

So I go to CompUSA just to look at my options and I'm not really sure what's what. It seems that 128 MB of video RAM is the most you can get and the market sweet spot seems to be 64 MB. Then there's the nVidia GeForce4 MX400, Ti4200, Ti4600, under different brand names....so I figure nVidia is the chipset. Then there's ATI Radeon among other chipsets.

So what should I be looking at as far as video cards go given my current system configuration? What chipset is best? What's the price range?

Thanks.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-02, 06:53 PM   #2
Ranger
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 19,128
Well, first of all, just upgrading your video card doesn't mean that you'll get get better gaming. Those new cards with more than 64mb are were made for the faster chips like the P4. So, don't spend all that $$$ on a top of the line card.

Best thing I can say to do is get a nVidia gf3 card with 32mb of ram. This should help a bit and isn't too pricey.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-02, 06:55 PM   #3
John Sy
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: I left my heart in.....South Plainfield, NJ
Posts: 2,998
What about the 64 MB version? Is it optimized for P4?
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-02, 07:46 PM   #4
agent2099
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: CA
Posts: 718
With a 500mhz CPU, the max you want is a GF2. A GF3 or anything higher would be a waste of money. The card for you is here:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...ption=geforce2

VISIONTEK Xtasy 5632 GEFORCE2 GTS-V 4X/2X 32MB DDR AGP - OEM

This VGA card offers high performance based on the GeForce2 GTS-V chipset and 32mb 256 bit DDR memory. Visiontek is the only Nvidia board partner to offer this card. Part# 72440.0 Model#: XTASY 5632 -OEM Special Free FedEx Saver Shipping
- Product Link - Chipset Info -See It! (image count 4 ) -Price Alert (N82E16814129007)
Save $4 when you buy this item with Newegg.com Black Aluminum Silver Cut Case Badge
(avg rating out of 268 voters)
$47.00
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-02, 07:51 PM   #5
skar
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 2,644
Visiontek might not be the best brand considering they just went out of business.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-02, 08:53 PM   #6
Ranger
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 19,128
to agent2099.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-02, 09:14 PM   #7
Jepthah
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Fascination Street
Posts: 6,521
I've got a similarly spec'd system as you, and the above GF2 card. It's a winner.

And I highly doubt you'll need tech support on it as long as you install it right--and at that price!
__________________
"If a sufficient number of people who wanted to stop war really did gather together, they would first of all begin by making war upon those who disagreed with them. And it is still more certain that they would make war on people who also want to stop wars but in another way." -- Gurdjieff
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-02, 10:28 PM   #8
gcribbs
DVD Talk Legend
 
gcribbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Sacramento,Ca,USA member #2634
Posts: 11,923
Quote:
Originally posted by agent2099
With a 500mhz CPU, the max you want is a GF2. A GF3 or anything higher would be a waste of money. The card for you is here:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...ption=geforce2

VISIONTEK Xtasy 5632 GEFORCE2 GTS-V 4X/2X 32MB DDR AGP - OEM
out of stock and since visiontek is going out of business it may not come back in stock.

so instead two choices.

Radeon 8500
ATI RADEON 8500LE 64MB DDR CRT/DVI/TV ,Dual Monitor support DVIS+CRT only

$92.50 shipped

or go with a geforce 4 Ti4200- The advantage in this choice is that you can use it for your next computer upgrade. the negative is that you might have trouble powering it with smaller power supplies in an old system.

If you can find a deal on a geforce 3 Ti200 or 500 for less that might be a good idea also.
__________________
Klipsch RF-3II- Front and Surrounds
Klipsch RC-35 Center
Energy S10.2 Subwoofer
Denon 2802
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-02, 10:41 PM   #9
John Sy
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: I left my heart in.....South Plainfield, NJ
Posts: 2,998
I don't know if this is the same thing as the above...but I found this for $39 + shipping...

http://www.compuvest1.com/engine/fri...temprice=39.00
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-02, 12:06 AM   #10
gcribbs
DVD Talk Legend
 
gcribbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Sacramento,Ca,USA member #2634
Posts: 11,923
Quote:
Originally posted by John Sy
I don't know if this is the same thing as the above...but I found this for $39 + shipping...

http://www.compuvest1.com/engine/fri...temprice=39.00
looks like the same thing a GTS-V card.

do not know anything about the company.
__________________
Klipsch RF-3II- Front and Surrounds
Klipsch RC-35 Center
Energy S10.2 Subwoofer
Denon 2802
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-02, 12:46 AM   #11
broadwayblue
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Heart of the Heart
Posts: 8,520
how long until your next computer? if a new pc is not in your forecast for the next 6 months don't spend extra on a gforce 4...by the time you upgrade the radeon 9700's will be cheap.
__________________
Let's Go Rangers!
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-02, 09:04 AM   #12
John Sy
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: I left my heart in.....South Plainfield, NJ
Posts: 2,998
A new PC is definitely not in the forecast anytime in the foreseeable future...
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-02, 09:20 AM   #13
broadwayblue
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Heart of the Heart
Posts: 8,520
Quote:
Originally posted by John Sy
A new PC is definitely not in the forecast anytime in the foreseeable future...
then i would grab a geforce 2 or a radeon 7500. you should be able to find them pretty cheap. the radeon all in wonder is nice if you want to watch tv on your pc.
__________________
Let's Go Rangers!
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-02, 12:47 PM   #14
agent2099
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: CA
Posts: 718
I forgot Visiontek went out of business. Probably not a good choice unless the place you get it from offeres an extended warranty. As broadway said, go for a GF2 (GTS, Ultra etc. non-mx based) or A 7500, but don't spend over $50 for a videocard since you have such an aging cpu.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-02, 05:05 PM   #15
John Sy
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: I left my heart in.....South Plainfield, NJ
Posts: 2,998
With 32 MB of video RAM...check.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-02, 04:43 PM   #16
bill_n_opus
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Great White North. Take Off Eh! You hosers ....
Posts: 1,455
Re: Need an Education about Video Cards

Quote:
Originally posted by John Sy
and a pathetic 16 MB nVidia TNT video card.

Hey Bro! I'm still running fine on my Creative GraphicsBlaster 16mb Riva TNT!

Woooooooo! Rotfl

However, I don't play games ... partially because my wife would kill me and my card won't let me.

Well, from what i've been reading it would seem that new competition brought forth by ATI's new offerings will have the usual drastic effect on current vid cards. The current sweetspot seems to be the GF ti 4200 64 and 128meg varieties and hopefully soon they will drop in price bigtime but you should still get long gaming life from those cards. If you can wait then you may be able to get an even better deal than what you can get right now.

If you decide to get something like the the GF4 ti 4200 you may find out that your processor is the bottleneck, the weak link in the system.

Check out Tom's Hardware (if I recall properly) for a recent review of the ATI offering and some insight for the future.
__________________
< hither... > dither...

w-y

Last edited by bill_n_opus; 08-28-02 at 04:45 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-02, 09:18 PM   #17
Amator
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 1,558
I've got the ATI Radeon 7500 64mb card, and I couldn't be happier with it. I don't do too much gaming aside from the occasional game of NWN or Unreal, but it works great with my 1ghz Duron and 256mb PC2600DDR RAM. Got mine OEM at a local store for $60. Shop around.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-02, 10:59 PM   #18
hypeiv
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Richardson, TX
Posts: 1,505
as stated above don't spend anything more than $50

http://www.pricewatch.com/1/37/2816-1.htm
http://www.pricewatch.com/1/37/2774-1.htm

i would get one of thouse two cards
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:20 PM.

Rules - DVD Talk - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright 2011 DVDTalk.com All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.