K&AJones

Question for the Netflix users...and any who have experienced Amazon as well....

We're looking at getting a Roku to get a "Movie" channel. We have the AT&T w/DirectTV and the DTV has screwed around with us on our rates and packages to the point we have a basic but the wife still wants her Starz. I'm looking around at the different ones using Roku to get Netflix which I'm still looking at and seeing what the actual cost is....say for two TV's and HD (no 4K yet).

But a few at work have Amazon (and have used Netflix) and they like it plus you get the shipping, buy specials and music and all. We just want a good selection of movies at a good quality. I might have to bump my internet up one tier...we're on like 12 on AT&T. I do have the apps on the PS4 but we don't have a Smart TV for the living room so might have to get the Roku.

So I'm looking for a bit more info, cost and all and some actual feedback from users of both to get a feel and sell to the wife.

RichC2

I prefer Netflix to Amazon but you'll get your fill with either (I have both.)

Netflix: $7.99 for 1 stream @ 480p, $9.99 for 2 simultaneous streams @ 1080p, $11.99 for 4 simultaneous streams at up to 4k. Netflix original shows include: House of Cards, Stranger Things, Orange is the New Black, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, etc;

Amazon: $10.99/month or $99/year, includes free Prime Shipping, Prime Music, Prime Photos, Kindle Library, etc; Amazon original shows include: The Man in the High Castle, The Grand Tour, Transparent, Sneaky Pete, etc;

You can use instantwatcher.com (netflix) or http://instantwatcher.com/a (amazon) to kind of see what both have to watch, I haven't used the Amazon app on the Roku in a while, but it used to be a tad confusing when it came to separating what was included with Prime and what was for Sale, alas it has been a few years since I've used it on there (I have an Amazon Fire TV stick as well, which works great, but no Vudu and Plex isn't quite as reliable on it with audio formats).

The Starz Over-the-Top channel is $8.99 a month and supports iOS, Android, Roku and Fire TV. You can also purchase Starz through Amazon and use it through their app instead. HBO is $14.99, Showtime is $8.99, Starz is $8.99, Cinemax is $9.99 (through Amazon, there is no Max Go app for Roku).

Also an option:

Hulu: $7.99/month (with commercials for TV shows (not movies)) or $11.99/month with no commercials. Gets a lot of broadcast shows the day after they air, has a large library of movies from Epix (primarily Paramount and Universal). HD but no 5.1 on TV shows. Hulu Original Shows include: Casual, The Handmaid's Tale, Shuteye, The Path, The Mindy Project

TheBigDave

You'll probably be happy with any of the Big 3 (Netflix, Amazon or Hulu). They all have a large selection of movies. As long as you're not too picky, you can find something good to watch.

Remember that you're not stuck with any service. You can do Netflix for a month, then do a month of Hulu, and maybe try Amazon Prime during the Holidays when you can use the Free Shipping.

And before you sign-up for a service, look around for new customer deals. When you buy a Roku, there's 30-Day Free Trials for HBO Now, Showtime, DirectTV Now, Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime.

https://www.roku.com/offers

Here's a 45-Day Free Trial for Hulu:

https://www.groupon.com/deals/hulu-national

TheBigDave

I've been using Just Watch. It has almost all the major streaming services. You can search for a movie/show and find where it's available.

https://www.justwatch.com/us/movies

rbrown498

I like Amazon Prime a lot, especially since you can add channels to the service a la carte. For instance, I added the Shudder channel a few months ago, and I've found a lot to love about it for $5 per month. Just today I added Fandor for $4 per month, which is MUCH cheaper than subscribing to the channel through its website as a standalone service (I think that it's usually $10 per month).

There are still reasons for me to keep my Netflix subscription as well, though, especially with the second season of Stranger Things coming out in October and new episodes of Terrace House: Aloha State coming in September. But since you're looking for a movie channel, you may want to investigate Amazon Prime a little further...especially since Netflix seems to be amping up TV series production to the detriment of adding newer movies.

K&AJones

Thanks for all the insight...

We have to hold on to DirectTV till this time next year due to that "contract we signed" but it's the Movie part we're looking for a fill in for now and just ditch the Starz (at $13.99) which I feel for $10-$12...Hulu, Netflix, Amazon or whatever. It's not just the amount of choices but ease to use and the quality part

The other thing was not being slapped with some rate hike rigging out on what you signed up for like DirectTV has done in the last 9 months. We signed up for a "Two Year Contract Locked In Price" that was changed 3 months later. Hopefully Amazon Hulu, Netflix or whoever doesn't do stuff like that.

RichC2

With streaming you know about rate hikes long in advance. If you were in a locked in price with AT&T/DirectTV and are billed differently, call them and complain. My initial bill was wrong the first 4 months before resting at a proper price, and each of those months I called and was reimbursed the difference. It was good for about 9 months and happened again this past month, to which they added a perpetual $60 credit to my account each month to ensure the balance stayed correct.

TheBigDave

Here is Everything Coming to Netflix in July 2017


Available July 1
Titanic
The Originals: Season 4
Free Willy
Disney’s The Mighty Ducks
Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa
Capo “El amo del tunel”: Season 1
El Barco: Season 1
The Truth Is in the Stars
Deep Water: Season 1
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
Hostages (Israel): Season 2
Zip & Zap and the Marble Gang
The Invisible Guest (Contratiempo)
Albion: The Enchanted Stallion
Liar’s Dice
Offspring: Season 6
Boat Trip
Mixed Signals
Delicatessen
Caramel
Yours Fatefully: Season 1
The Ultimatum: Season 1
Unriddle II
Unriddle
Yes We Can!: Season 1
Spice Up: Season 1
World at Your Feet: Season 1
Emma
The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
Last Night
Out of Thin Air
Witnesses: Season 2
The Longest Yard
Jackass: Number Two
Punch-Drunk Love
Are We There Yet?
Are We Done Yet?
The Land Before Time
Dad
The Land Before Time II: The Great Valley Adventure
The Land Before Time III: The Time of the Great Giving
Here Alone
Spawn: The Movie
Code Name: The Cleaner
The Astronaut Farmer
Best in Show
Proof of Life
Matchstick Men
Taking Lives
Police Academy

Available July 2
El Chema season 1

Available July 3
Diamond Cartel
Extraordinary: The Stan Romanek Story

Available July 4
The Standups season 1*

Available July 5
iZombie season 3

Available July 6
Speech & Debate
The Void
Butter

Available July 7
Castlevania season 1
Dawn Of The Croods season 4
Degrassi: Next Class season 4
Luna Petunia season 2*
1 Mile to You (Life At These Speeds)

Available July 8
Bad Santa 2
Horse Dancer

Available July 9
Lion

Available July 11
Gabriel Iglesias Presents The Gentleman Jerry Rocha

Available July 14
Friends From College season 1
To The Bone
Chasing Coral
Buddy Thunderstruck: The Maybe Pile

Available July 15
Rake season 4
West Coast Customs season 4

Available July 17
Uncertain Glory
Fittest On Earth: A Decade of Fitness
A Cowgirl’s Story

Available July 18
Aditi Mittal: Things They Wouldn’t Let Me Say
Ari Shaffir: Double Negative: Collection
Girlfriends’ Guide to Divorce season 3
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Available July 20
Pretty Little Liars season 7B

Available July 21
Ozark season 1
Last Chance U season 2
The Worst Witch season 1

Available July 22
Railroad Tigers

Available July 24
Victor

Available July 25
Joe Mande’s Award-Winning Comedy Special
Munroe Island

Available July 28
The Incredible Jessica James
Daughters Of Destiny season 1
The Adventures Of Puss In Boots season 5

Available July 31
After The Reality
Checkpoint
Dark Night
Taking Earth
Being Mary Jane: The Series season 4

OldBoy

Wow! Rogue One already. That's got to be quite the score. Putting that deal to very good use right away...

TheBigDave

Netflix: Movies and TV Shows Leaving in July

Leaving July 1, 2017
9/11: Stories in Fragments
America's Secret D-Day Disaster
American Pie Presents: Band Camp
American Pie Presents: Beta House
American Pie Presents: The Naked Mile
An Unmarried Woman
Angus, Thongs and Perfect Snogging
Batman
Black Wings
Blazing Saddles
Blondie's New York
Bombs, Bullets and Fraud
Day of the Kamikaze
Death Beach
El Dorado
Flicka 2
Futurama: Seasons 1 - 6
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes
Ghost Whisperer: Seasons 1 - 5
Hello, Dolly!
Hip Hop: The Furious Force of Rhymes
History in HD: The Last Bomb
Hugo
Kate & Leopold
MacGyver: Seasons 1 - 7
Mystery Files: Hitler
Mystery Files: Leonardo da Vinci
Nazi Temple of Doom
Samurai Headhunters
Secrets: A Viking Map?
Secrets: Richard III Revealed
Secrets: The Sphinx
Shuttle Discovery's Last Mission
The Hunt for Bin Laden
The Incredible Bionic Man
Titanic's Final Mystery
While You Were Sleeping
Working Girl


Leaving July 3, 2017
The Last Samurai
Two Weeks Notice


Leaving July 6, 2017
Los Heroes del Norte: Seasons 1 - 2


Leaving July 11, 2017
Opposite Field


Leaving July 12, 2017
Adventures of Pepper and Paula
In the Basement
Sleeping Beauty


Leaving July 13, 2017
Kevin Hart: Laugh at My Pain


Leaving July 15, 2017
All That Glitters
Lessons for a Kiss

TomOpus

No wonder I couldn't find the lists in the usual thread.

whotony

What usual thread?

TheBigDave

I thought this was the usual thread?



UPDATE - You're right. I guess I posted the list in the wrong thread. Sorry.

I just posted them over in the New Arrivals thread.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/streaming-t...thread-53.html

DJariya

http://uproxx.com/tv/netflix-bleedin...-billion-debt/

Netflix is well over $20B in debt and growing.

TGM

explains why my subscription fee went from $9.99 to $1.7million/month

DJariya

They don't seem worried, but the bubble could burst on them.

How long can they really sustain that kind of debt? At some point, don't they have to start thinking about making money? As of right now, it's a money losing business with the hundreds of millions they spend on content every year with growing debt.

RichC2

I wonder if they'll stealthly have two "No new content" months

It's been mounting debt for a very long time now, so who knows. I feel like they over financed their venture into original content.

E Unit

Not surprised really. I've had Netflix for a few years now, but only in the last month have I really started to look at a lot of what's on there. I'm amazed how many original Netflix shows there are. I haven't heard of most of them.

lwhy?

I think they invested in way too many originals. They have started to miss on some shows (Girlboss, The Get Down, Iron Fist). I personally wish they would invest in a few more movies. The amount of movies on Netflix seems to be going down...

Throwing Copper

Holy shit. I wondered how they afforded all this stuff. I mean paying Dave Chappelle $60 million for 3 standup specials, 2 of which were already old, seems kinda crazy.

That being said. both the Chappelle live concerts from 2015 and 2016 on there are fucking hilarious and awesome.

PerryD

They were a $3B company five years ago, and now they are worth $80B, doubling in the past year. I think they are probably doing okay.

RichC2

They are. Plus the debt isn't out of the blue or a surprise.

dex14

http://deadline.com/2017/08/netflix-...os-1202143833/

Also... Netflix says the $20bil report is inaccurate: "The correct number: we have total gross debt of $4.8b vs. our equity market value of about $75b. They have since corrected the story."
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/news/a8...curate-report/

Giantrobo

Disney will pull its movies from Netflix and start its own streaming services


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/disne...200521905.html

DJariya

http://variety.com/2017/digital/feat...es-1202527321/

Netflix plans to spend $7 Billion for content in 2018.

This past week they also signed a huge development deal with Shonda Rhimes, the creator of Grey's Anatomy and Scandal.

http://deadline.com/2017/08/shonda-r...os-1202148014/

She left ABC and her shows. They are now being ran by other people on her teams.