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Old 01-05-17, 11:49 PM   #1
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2017 NFL Off-Season Thread

I know we had a coaches getting fired thread, but thought maybe it was time to start a new Off-Season thread. There are some big relocation issues that are going to be addressed very soon.

I thought this article from the OC Register was very interesting :


Bonsignore: With Raiders eyeing Vegas, Chargers could get more time - and NFL's help - to strike deal in San Diego
By VINCENT BONSIGNORE
2017-01-04 14:42:58


With the clock ticking on the San Diego Chargers’ year-long option to join the Rams in Los Angeles, a series of factors – including the delicate timeframe, the involvement of the Oakland Raiders and the NFL’s hopes of minimizing the disruption of relocating multiple franchise – could soon converge to satisfy objectives from New York to Southern California to Las Vegas.

And in the process, leave Los Angeles all to the Rams.

At least physically.

And for now, anyway.

The Chargers have until Jan. 15 to exercise their option to join the Rams or remain in San Diego. After the 15th, the option is relinquished to the Raiders.

Both teams were approved by NFL owners last January to relocate to Los Angeles as partners with the Rams.

In the 12 months since, the Chargers pursued a stadium measure in downtown San Diego that was ultimately defeated by San Diego voters last November.

Meanwhile, the Raiders created a stadium option in Las Vegas in which they will kick in $500 million, their partner Sheldon Adelson of the Las Vegas Sands Corp. will contribute $650 million and the state of Nevada will add $750 million from a hotel tax increase.

The Raiders are expected to file for relocation to Las Vegas as soon as their season ends, which could be this weekend or might extend to February, depending how far they advance in the playoffs.

Their relocation hopes will ultimately rest with fellow NFL owners, 24 of whom would have to approve their move to Las Vegas. While nothing is guaranteed, there is strong indication the Raiders will get the support they need – especially with the NFL publicly conceding there is currently no viable plan in Oakland.

Here is where it gets tricky, and why the NFL might be looking at alternate means with which to buy the Chargers more time while achieving multiple other objectives.

Even if the Raiders’ season ends Saturday in a wild-card loss to the Houston Texans and they cast their bid for relocation at the beginning of next week, it remains unknown when all 32 NFL owners will converge to vote on their fate.

That unknown could create enough uneasiness with Chargers owner Dean Spanos that he pulls the trigger on Los Angeles before Jan. 15. Not necessarily because his heart is set on Los Angeles, but out of simple fear if he doesn’t – and relinquishes the L.A. option to the Raiders in the process – the Raiders could take his L.A. landing spot if they are denied Las Vegas.

The NFL, in an attempt to mitigate things, and has scheduled a special meeting for the owner-comprised stadium and finance committees Jan. 11-12 in New York to analyze options. Nothing is guaranteed, but those options would require flexibility and a possible break from precedence among NFL owners.

The Chargers problems getting a stadium deal in San Diego are multi-fold. They operate in a state that rues approving public money for professional sports stadiums, and with a vote required for any public contribution it might be another two years before a new stadium proposal goes to a ballot.

With no guarantee that vote will succeed, and with time running out on Spanos’ spot in San Diego, his uneasiness is understandable. He could end up with no new stadium in San Diego and no landing spot in L.A.

That's awfully risky business.

Unless his fellow owners spring into action soon.

And there are strong indications that might happen.

The NFL is expected to consider kicking in more league money in order to reduce the public's portion of, say, a new stadium near the Mission Valley site the Chargers currently play.

In doing so, it would reduce the public contribution in San Diego while increasing the chances of a favorable vote.

To buy the necessary time for that vote to unfold, the NFL could give strong assurances to the Raiders they will be approved for Las Vegas, thus allowing them to relinquish their L.A. option to the Chargers to give the Chargers more time – and peace of mind – to work things out in San Diego.

With just a little more creativity and open-mindedness, the NFL could create a strong TV ratings base in Los Angeles without adding a second team here to cut into the Rams physical hold on the market.

There is no doubt the Raiders have a strong L.A. foothold, and the NFL could designate them the quasi second team in the market, albeit from afar. They’d simply need to adjust the TV rules and allow Raiders games to be televised opposite Rams home games.

In doing so, the NFL would create an L.A. ratings bonanza by pairing the Rams and Raiders.

At the end of the day, the Chargers get at least two more years to work something out in San Diego, with Los Angeles remaining an option should a vote be rejected.

Meanwhile, the Raiders will create new horizons in Las Vegas while also remaining a strong presence in Los Angeles.

And the Rams get what they ultimately wanted from the beginning: Los Angeles all to themselves.

Of course, Spanos and the Chargers could wake up tomorrow and simply decide they've given San Diego enough time and they no longer believe a stadium path is available there. At which point they'll pull the trigger on L.A.

Which would render all this moot.

So stay tuned.


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Also the Las Vegas Review Journal just hired Former USA Today columnist Jon Saraceno to cover the Raider's "possible move to Las Vegas". In case you didn't know, the paper is owned by Sheldon Adelson - the same guy who pledged $650M of his own money to build an NFL stadium for a team he is prohibited from ever becoming a partial owner of. I think he must feel pretty confident that the Raiders move is happening.
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Old 01-06-17, 01:03 AM   #2
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Re: 2017 NFL Off-Season Thread

I'm not sure why the Rams would agree to share home tv advantage with the Raiders when nobody else does it with nearby teams. Also the thinking is that there's major opposition into kicking even more money to San Diego because then all these other teams wanting new stadiums are going to want at least that much when their time comes.
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Re: 2017 NFL Off-Season Thread

Apparently Vance Joseph (Dolphins DC) and Kyle Shanahan (Falcons OC) are the 2 hottest names being floated around for head coach openings.

Also, Josh McDaniels (Pats OC) is another name. Although he was a bust as the Broncos coach 6 years ago.


I'd like to see some of these coordinators getting shots. Hopefully these teams that have openings won't look at failed retreads like Rex, Chip Kelly or Jeff Fisher.

I know Fisher said he wants to coach again, but I doubt any team would hire him after he miserable failure with the Rams. He should look at TV. Same goes with Rex.
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Old 01-06-17, 08:05 AM   #4
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Re: 2017 NFL Off-Season Thread

I heard a long discussion speculating that Kyle Shanahan will be hired and bring Cousins with him. That could be interesting.

Josh McDaniels should get another shot. He would be my top choice assuming the guys that have been analysts for for years now are not looking to come back.
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Old 01-06-17, 10:38 AM   #5
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Re: 2017 NFL Off-Season Thread

What about Coughlin? Yes, he's a retread, but not a failed one.

Colts decide to keep Pagano. That was a mistake.
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Old 01-06-17, 10:57 AM   #6
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Colts decide to keep Pagano. That was a mistake.
I agree. He seems like a hell of a nice guy, but he's not a good coach. He never has his team well prepared, especially at the start of games. He can't get his guys fired up for big games like the late-season game against the Texans that might have won them the division.
It's time for him to go. Instead we have to waste another year of Andrew Luck's prime spinning their wheels at 8-8.
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Old 01-06-17, 10:58 AM   #7
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Re: 2017 NFL Off-Season Thread

Oddly enough I've heard a lot of speculation that Coughlin could end up back at Jacksonville. If he is interested it doesn't seem like the worst idea.
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Re: 2017 NFL Off-Season Thread

Yeah, I have heard the Jacksonville rumors too. Would be a good move for him, very low risk to his legacy.
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Old 01-06-17, 11:17 AM   #9
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Re: 2017 NFL Off-Season Thread

It's also a team that's close to being good. Lots of talent with the Jags. Just not sure about Bortles.
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Re: 2017 NFL Off-Season Thread

http://awfulannouncing.com/2017/thre...-rex-ryan.html

ESPN, FOX and NFL Network are interested in hiring Rex Ryan as an analyst.

If FOX hires Rex, he would probably be an analyst in the booth for their games. Really doubt they would use him in the studio show. Too crowded already.

If ESPN gets him, I think he would strictly be an analyst for one of their NFL studio shows in Bristol, CT.

NFL Network I think would be the underdog to get him. They would have to fly him into their Los Angeles studio a few times a week to work in their studio. That would seem like a chore to fly cross country several times per week.
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NFL Network I think would be the underdog to get him. They would have to fly him into their Los Angeles studio a few times a week to work in their studio. That would seem like a chore to fly cross country several times per week.
Plus some airlines charge a premium surcharge for obese passengers.
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Old 01-06-17, 03:11 PM   #13
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I don;t think I can watch any games listening to Rex the entire time.
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Old 01-06-17, 03:36 PM   #14
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Bengal fans are thrilled to join this thread one week earlier this year than the past five.

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I agree. He seems like a hell of a nice guy, but he's not a good coach. He never has his team well prepared, especially at the start of games. He can't get his guys fired up for big games like the late-season game against the Texans that might have won them the division.
It's time for him to go. Instead we have to waste another year of Andrew Luck's prime spinning their wheels at 8-8.
He should stick to calling Special Teams plays.

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He should stick to calling Special Teams plays.

that led me to this

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Re: 2017 NFL Off-Season Thread

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...edium=referral

Browns fire DC Ray Horton and hire Rams DC Gregg Williams

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Old 01-07-17, 11:35 PM   #18
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Gregg back to DC wouldn't be so bad. Can't be worse.
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http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/br...-exit-1.738758

Gregg Williams hired as Browns DC according to one of their local papers as well.
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Colin Kaepernick Donates $50,000 to Standing Rock Health Clinic. http://bit.ly/2i3u5ki
What the heck kind of league is this where he wasn't even nominated for the Walter Payton Award?
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The kind who shuns dumbass players who openly support Fidel Castro.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...new-head-coach

One coaching vacancy filled. Jaguars hire Doug Marrone.

Jags also name Tom Coughlin Executive VP of Football Operations
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Colin Kaepernick Donates $50,000 to Standing Rock Health Clinic. http://bit.ly/2i3u5ki
What the heck kind of league is this where he wasn't even nominated for the Walter Payton Award?
I am shocked by this...I thought he was going to donate to the Kneeling Rock Health Clinic
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Broncos hire Dolphins DC Vance Joseph as their Head Coach. Nice hire for them. He was on their short list last time
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Sean McDermott to the Bills.
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