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Old 01-11-17, 09:15 PM   #26
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And the Chargers are off to LA:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...go-los-angeles
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Old 01-11-17, 09:20 PM   #27
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Damn, now we get 2 bad football teams.
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Old 01-11-17, 09:22 PM   #28
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Broncos hire Dolphins DC Vance Joseph as their Head Coach. Nice hire for them. He was on their short list last time
Help me out here. Why was he on everyone's HC short list? He was a Defensive coordinator for 1 season for a middling Miami defense. Before this season he was a position coach. This reminds me a lot of Lane Kiffin. He must give a helluva interview.
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Old 01-11-17, 09:25 PM   #29
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At least their fan base doesn't have a long commute.


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Old 01-11-17, 09:36 PM   #30
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Supposedly the Rams are very high on hiring 30-year old Sean McVay (Redskins OC)

If he gets hired, he wants to hire Wade Phillips as the DC since the Broncos won't be retaining him.

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So does this mean that the Raiders to Las Vegas is pretty much a done deal now? I can't see them staying in Oakland after the Rams and now the Chargers move to LA.
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Damn, now we get 2 bad football teams.
It would be so awesome of SD hired Jeff Fisher.
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Damn, now we get 2 bad football teams.
LA goes from no teams to 2 teams. Maybe the Raiders will move and make it 3 teams in LA? Crazy.
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Old 01-11-17, 10:56 PM   #34
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Damn, still don't really care about having the Chargers here. It's funny being in Orange County since a lot of folks here latched on to the Chargers rather then any of the previous LA teams and they seem to want to stop being a Chargers fan even though we're basically in the middle between LA and San Diego.
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Old 01-11-17, 11:06 PM   #35
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So does this mean that the Raiders to Las Vegas is pretty much a done deal now? I can't see them staying in Oakland after the Rams and now the Chargers move to LA.
The owners still have to approve it, same goes for the potential Raiders move. So it's not 100% set in stone.

Last I read Goodell is not very keen about the Chargers moving.
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LA goes from no teams to 2 teams. Maybe the Raiders will move and make it 3 teams in LA?
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So does this mean that the Raiders to Las Vegas is pretty much a done deal now? I can't see them staying in Oakland after the Rams and now the Chargers move to LA.
I think it's hard for them to say "No" after they have permitted two teams to L.A. and with a Vegas stadium deal in place with AMPLE public funding. I keep hearing things about Adelson and his $650M though. Nevada legislators would have NEVER approved the deal without that massive private contribution so I keep wondering what the stumbling block is now -- Adelson certainly knew he could never take partial ownership of an NFL team. Not really sure what has happened and why the Steelers owner is telling the LVRJ that the move could happen without Sheldon Adelson. Still assuming that gets ironed out, I can't imagine they would stop Davis from moving. Not a single owner has voiced opposition publicly and several including Kraft, Jones and (unsurprisingly) Jim Irsay are enthusiastic about the move. Oakland's feeble last-minute stadium proposal (apparently worse than St. Louis' last year) didn't help their cause.
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Old 01-12-17, 12:14 AM   #37
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The owners still have to approve it, same goes for the potential Raiders move. So it's not 100% set in stone.

Last I read Goodell is not very keen about the Chargers moving.
Yeah, but didn't everyone basically agree to this already last year when they approved the Rams move?
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Old 01-12-17, 01:17 AM   #38
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-2017-18/amp/

Chargers expected to play at the 30,000 capacity Stubhub Center in Carson, CA until the Inglewood stadium opens.

It's where the LA Galaxy play.
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Old 01-12-17, 01:20 AM   #39
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Yeah, but didn't everyone basically agree to this already last year when they approved the Rams move?
I think the Raiders Vegas move would definitely need approval.

But yeah you're right. I forgot that the owners already approved the Chargers to LA last year. They even extended the deadline for them to make a decision. It's just a matter of Spanos making it official tomorrow.
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Old 01-12-17, 02:44 AM   #40
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Chargers expected to play at the 30,000 capacity Stubhub Center in Carson, CA until the Inglewood stadium opens.

It's where the LA Galaxy play.
Yikes. That stadium is tiny, how is that going to work? I hunk the Raiders had the lowest home attendance last year and that was double that capacity. I also don't want to be anywhere near the 110/405 when both teams have games.
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Old 01-12-17, 06:03 AM   #41
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San Diego was extremely supportive of the Chargers when they were good. Unfortunately, once Alex Spanos bought the team they were bad more often than they were good.

Dean took over the team and made some horrendous decisions. Keeping Bobby "I'll trade you our First Round pick next year for your Second Round pick this year, and then I'll pick a guy from Stephen F Austin with that pick, even though he would still have been around in the 5th round" Beathard over Bobby Ross was a bad call. Not firing Beathard after 5 horrible drafts in a row was stupid. Firing Marty Schottenheimer after a 14-2 season and hiring Norv Turner was insanely stupid. Keeping A.J. Smith around two years too long was stupid (A.J. built the team, and then he tore it apart and treated people like crap while doing it).

But, ultimately, Dean Spanos did everything wrong when it came to trying to get a new stadium built in San Diego. I've never seen someone use worse tactics and PR when they want free money from a city.

So now Dean is the new Art Modell. The most hated owner in the NFL thanks to his own actions. Hell, even the other owners don't like or respect Dean. Way to go, moron!
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Yikes. That stadium is tiny, how is that going to work? I hunk the Raiders had the lowest home attendance last year and that was double that capacity. I also don't want to be anywhere near the 110/405 when both teams have games.
I have to imagine that like they do with cities with 2 baseball teams, their schedules will be opposite each other mostly. Meaning, one will be on the road while the other is at home. There may be some overlap, but generally speaking they won't try to schedule them at same time on same days.
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Old 01-12-17, 06:54 AM   #43
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I have to imagine that like they do with cities with 2 baseball teams, their schedules will be opposite each other mostly. Meaning, one will bring the road while the other is at home. There may be some overlap, but generally speaking they won't try to schedule them at same time on same days.
Yup. Back in the Staples center the Clips and Lakers had separate locker rooms. So there were three (Lakers, Clips, Road team). Same thing with MetLife.
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Old 01-12-17, 09:07 AM   #44
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Plaschke: Chargers shouldnít look for a welcome wagon in L.A.

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We. Donít. Want. You.

The news broke Thursday that Chargers owner Dean Spanos has informed NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell he is moving the team to Los Angeles, which is pretty much dreadful news for Los Angeles.

Wow, just what we need, the return of a professional sports team with no buzz, no tradition, few local fans north of south Orange County, limited success, and an owner who just stole them away from a place where they were loved unconditionally for 56 years.

What was the NFL thinking? What are the Chargers thinking? I know what Spanos is thinking, that he is leaving behind those unwashed heathens who didnít want their tax dollars to pay for a football stadium and sliding into Stan Kroenkeís Inglewood palace to ride piggyback on the Rams.

What a guy. What a joke.

The problem is not that Los Angeles must now be asked to support two NFL teams after 22 years of somehow surviving with none. We knew this would happen. This was the deal when the Rams returned last year. This is what the NFL has always wanted for Inglewood, so there was no avoiding it.

The problem is, the second team should have been the Raiders. The Southland is filled with Raiders fans everywhere. I have still never met a single Chargers fan.

The NFL will feel the full embarrassment of this move next fall when the Raiders play the Chargers here and the stadium will be painted in silver and black. At least that game will be sold out. Whether they initially play in the giant Coliseum or the tiny confines of StubHub Center, itís hard to imagine the Chargers selling many tickets for any of their other games in the next two years before the Inglewood palace opens.

The Chargers arenít even the second team in town behind the Rams. The Chargers arenít even the third team of interest here behind the Rams and Raiders. The Chargers might not even be in the top-five favorite NFL teams in Los Angeles.

And now theyíre going to play their home games here? Itís difficult to imagine many people really caring. Look at how many fans fled the Rams after they won only four games in their dismal return season here. Are those fans now going to get behind a team that has advanced to one Super Bowl since the Super Bowl began being played 51 years ago? The Chargers have won four playoff games in 22 years and, like, donít we already have one of those teams?

The Rams have been awful, and are currently terrible, but because they played here for 48 years, they still feel like ďourĒ Rams.

The Chargers will brag about how they were born here in 1960, but, seriously, they stuck around only one year before fleeing south.

The Chargers are San Diegoís team. The Chargers are beloved there. The Chargers belong there. And in coming days, donít listen to all these NFL experts moan that because of stadium issues, the Chargers couldnít make it work there.

Sure they could. According to a recent Forbes ranking, the Spanos family is worth $2.1 billion. They could have made it work there if they werenít insistent on using public money that the people of San Diego smartly refused to give them.

Think about this. The NFL gave Spanos an unprecedented $300 million to make a $1.2-billion stadium work, and he still couldnít figure out a way to come up with the rest without picking the taxpayersí pockets.

So he moves the Chargers to a foreign land where they will play among strangers so his team can play for one dollar a year ó seriously ó in a $2.6 -billion stadium that Kroenke is building with no public money.

It gets worse. Spanos will have to pay as much as a $650-million relocation fee to bring his team here. Think he could have used that money toward a new stadium in San Diego?

While the Rams returned home in triumph, Spanos will come to Los Angeles in shame. Remember how Art Modell gave 35 years of his life to owning the Cleveland Browns, then suddenly moved them to Baltimore? The once-beloved Modell spent the rest of his days as the scourge of Cleveland. The same will happen to Spanos in San Diego, his legacy sold up the freeway.

And who exactly will be coming up that freeway with him? Who cares? The Chargers have better players than the Rams, but they still generally stink. They donít have a coach, they fired the last guy, whoever he was. They have a 35-year-old quarterback named Philip Rivers whoís a pretty good dude, but how much longer will he keep playing?

The team will be unfortunate, unwitting participants in this mess, and itís hard to imagine them initially being received as much more than a novelty act.

The good news about the Chargersí move is that nobody will have to spend much money on a welcome parade. It will be a short one. There will be one limo carrying Spanos and one Brinkís truck carrying his loot, both moving hurriedly up that freeway ahead of the muffled San Diego cries, all of Los Angeles peering briefly out the windows before closing their blinds.
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As a SoCal resident, I completely agree. No one is clamoring for the Chargers, and half of the area have still been Raiders fans if anything. I'm not sure what fan base they're going to pick up here, especially with what I mentioned before and a lot of the Orange County based fans wanting to drop them for moving.
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Stupid article. The chargers deserved a new stadium. End of story.
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Stupid article. The chargers deserved a new stadium. End of story.
Sure. So then get the billionaire owners to cough up the dough to build one. Fuck any owner who thinks they are entitled to use public money to fund a stadium. As much as it sucks for SD to lose the team, I have mad respect for their government for refusing to bend over and spend public money on a stadium for the team.
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LA goes from no teams to 2 teams. Maybe the Raiders will move and make it 3 teams in LA? Crazy.
Nah, not the Raiders...

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Sure. So then get the billionaire owners to cough up the dough to build one. Fuck any owner who thinks they are entitled to use public money to fund a stadium. As much as it sucks for SD to lose the team, I have mad respect for their government for refusing to bend over and spend public money on a stadium for the team.
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I think it's hard for them to say "No" after they have permitted two teams to L.A. and with a Vegas stadium deal in place with AMPLE public funding.
If the Rams' move is any indication, none of that matters very much. The NFL will give whatever answer they think will bring the most revenue for the league and the owners.
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