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Old 05-09-17, 01:29 PM   #301
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Re: Aaron Hernandez - Worse Since O.J.? [Update: DEAD]

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So would that leave his daughter with more or less than she would have had had he lived?
If his insurance policy did not have a suicide provision (or it has lapsed) she is still entitled to that money and it will not be at risk in a civil suit.
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Old 05-09-17, 01:33 PM   #302
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That's how I understand it. If his "estate" is due anything now that the conviction is gone, it opens up Lloyd's family for Civil court. And I'm sure they'll be able to use the conviction in those hearings.
Not according to my understanding.
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Old 05-09-17, 01:41 PM   #303
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Not according to my understanding.
Really? I thought stuff like that was always fair game in a civil case.
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Old 05-09-17, 01:57 PM   #304
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Really? I thought stuff like that was always fair game in a civil case.
The evidence can be used, AFAIK. But it is my understanding that a big reason to have the conviction tossed out is precisely for the reason you describe, so that it cannot be used in any civil case against his estate.

I haven't researched this in depth, so maybe that is not true, but it's certainly what I have read.
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Re: Aaron Hernandez - Worse Since O.J.? [Update: DEAD]

It sounds like the judge wants this case challenged in a higher court. I think she is right that legal precedent prevents her from doing anything other than vacating the verdict, bullshit though that ruling is.
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Old 05-09-17, 02:05 PM   #306
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The evidence can be used, AFAIK. But it is my understanding that a big reason to have the conviction tossed out is precisely for the reason you describe, so that it cannot be used in any civil case against his estate.

I haven't researched this in depth, so maybe that is not true, but it's certainly what I have read.
Hmm...maybe that's it. Either way, if the evidence was enough to get him convited, chances are it would be enough to get through a civil case as well.

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Old 05-09-17, 02:12 PM   #307
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Re: Aaron Hernandez - Worse Since O.J.? [Update: DEAD]

My biggest issue with throwing out the murder conviction is now someone somewhere will use it as "another innocent person who was sent to jail and died there" for whatever political purposes.
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Old 05-09-17, 06:43 PM   #308
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Re: Aaron Hernandez - Worse Since O.J.? [Update: DEAD]

I look at it this way: I could care less about this technical ruling. In effect, the death penalty was meted out in a non-capital punishment state without the lengthy and expensive process of appeals. He also did his girlfriend and daughter a huge favor by permanently removing himself from their lives. As long as the victim's family prevails in the civil suit (which they undoubtedly will) I see no real downside.
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Re: Aaron Hernandez - Worse Since O.J.? [Update: DEAD]

Mod : Can we change the thread title to : Aaron Hernandez - Worse Since O.J.? [Update: DEAD, NOT GUILTY ANYMORE]
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Re: Aaron Hernandez - Worse Since O.J.? [Update: DEAD]

And also change Worse to Worst?
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And also change Worse to Worst?
Let's just split the difference and say worser.
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