Sports record that will NEVER be broken

[fujishig]

Originally Posted by Goat3001

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

I take it you haven't seen his posts in the Seau thread?

[Goat3001]

Originally Posted by fujishig

I take it you haven't seen his posts in the Seau thread?

I just did, and I stand corrected.

[starman9000]

He's even brought the shtick to the book forum. Yes, the BOOK forum.

[zekeburger1979]

Originally Posted by Decker

Post-season career records in baseball mean nothing historically. Previous baseball greats could play at most 7 post-season games in a season until 1969. A third round was introduced in 1993. Now a baseball player could play 20 games in a single post-season, and we might not be done yet.

That's why I think the record books should reflect the changes in the postseason. Have a pre-divisional era listing, a divisional era listing, and a wild-card era listing, and now a double wild-card listing. Same thing with the NBA, NFL, and NHL. More postseason games = better chance to set the records.

[MWB]

Originally Posted by starman9000

He's even brought the shtick to the book forum. Yes, the BOOK forum.

Wait a minute. There's a Book forum?

[coli]

Originally Posted by zekeburger1979

That's why I think the record books should reflect the changes in the postseason. Have a pre-divisional era listing, a divisional era listing, and a wild-card era listing, and now a double wild-card listing. Same thing with the NBA, NFL, and NHL. More postseason games = better chance to set the records.

I think what MLB needs to do is have a record book for each round. You have the World Series record (which has always been a 7 game series, so Yogi Berra or Babe Ruths World Series records can match up to anyone in the present day game.

Then you have an LCS record book (the only difference they had a 5 game series from 1969-84, and a 7 game series from 1985.)

Then you can have an DS record book for all the present day players from 1995-present time.

There is nothing that more annoys me when they talk about Andy Pettite having the most Playoff wins when he played his whole career with 3 rounds of playoffs compared to guys like Whitey Ford who played their whole career with one round of playoffs. YOU CANT COMPARE!

[Pajiba]

Originally Posted by coli

You have the World Series record (which has always been a 7 game series, so Yogi Berra or Babe Ruths World Series records can match up to anyone in the present day game.

You know absolutely nothing about baseball history let alone the history of the World Series.

The World Series has in fact NOT always been a 7 game series.

The very first World Series in 1903 between the Pittsburgh Pirates and the Boston Americans was an 8 game series.

The 1912 World Series between the New York Giants and the Boston Red Sox was an 8 game series.

The 1919 World Series between the Cincinnati Reds and the Chicago White(Black) Sox was an 8 game series.

The 1921 World Series between the New York Giants and the New York Yankees was an 8 game series.

On a semi-related tangent, I don't think we will ever seen scab/replacement players employed in place of regular pros in any of the 4 major sports leagues (NFL, mlb, NHL, NBA) again. The owners will shut down the leagues for the duration of any strike rather than face the wrath of the fanboys blubbing about the substandard quality of play.

[coli]

Originally Posted by Pajiba

You know absolutely nothing about baseball history let alone the history of the World Series.

The World Series has in fact NOT always been a 7 game series.

Ok, lighten up Francis. You're right about that as I forgot that a few World Series before 1925 were not 7 games, but you need to stop insulting people here to make your points. I've seen you post for the last 2 days and acting like a total doucebag to everyone.

Then again, its the internet so there are always people like you who hide behind their computer and act like Mr. Tough Guy.

[VinVega]

Pajiba may have to be checked into rage-a-holics. Anyone have the number?

[kenbuzz]

So, tell me again how the ignore function works?

[orangecrush]

Originally Posted by Pajiba

You know absolutely nothing about baseball history let alone the history of the World Series.

The World Series has in fact NOT always been a 7 game series.

The very first World Series in 1903 between the Pittsburgh Pirates and the Boston Americans was an 8 game series.

The 1912 World Series between the New York Giants and the Boston Red Sox was an 8 game series.

The 1919 World Series between the Cincinnati Reds and the Chicago White(Black) Sox was an 8 game series.

The 1921 World Series between the New York Giants and the New York Yankees was an 8 game series.

On a semi-related tangent, I don't think we will ever seen scab/replacement players employed in place of regular pros in any of the 4 major sports leagues (NFL, mlb, NHL, NBA) again. The owners will shut down the leagues for the duration of any strike rather than face the wrath of the fanboys blubbing about the substandard quality of play.

NFL could. Aside from a few players, the people on the field are just faceless numbers. And we love football more than anything else in America.

[argh923]

Originally Posted by fujishig

I agree with Chamberlain's records. Even though it's only a single game record, I think the 100 point game is even more impossible to crack than the 50 point average and Robertson's triple double. I think Kobe is the one who said it would probably be broken in his lifetime, but I dunno, when someone gets near 80 or so I'd think you'd use all five of your guys to defend him and let anyone else on the other team score. Even Lebron/Wade/Kobe/Jordan-in-his-prime couldn't score that much more if, say, all five Bobcats players surrounded them, right?

Kobe scored 81 a few years ago against Toronto despite sitting out half of the fourth quarter. 100 points is achievable.

Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema

I think LeBron probably could.

If ANYONE could come close to averaging a triple double in the current NBA, it'd be LeBron, but I don't think he could actually do it.

[fujishig]

Can you imagine NBA scabs? People that couldn't fill the Bobcats roster would be playing against each other every night. Iverson, Marbury and Antoine Walker would be back, though.

[raven56706]

well we did find out that pajiba hasnt had a job since 2007... i would be mad at the world too...

[Jeremy517]

Originally Posted by abrg923

Kobe scored 81 a few years ago against Toronto despite sitting out half of the fourth quarter.

Kobe played all but the last four seconds of the fourth quarter.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...601220LAL.html

[fujishig]

Reading about Wilt's game, I still don't think it's possible to replicate. I'd think you'd get malice in the palace pt. 2 before a team let this happen to them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Ch...100-point_game

With six minutes remaining, the Knicks began intentionally fouling any Warrior except Chamberlain, keeping the ball out of the center's hands.[21][51][52] New York also began moving the ball slowly and using as much of the shot clock as possible to leave fewer opportunities for Chamberlain to score.[53] Effectively, they played the opposite of what a normal club would do if they faced a deficit, willingly giving up many easy points instead of making attempts to rally back.[46] Meschery said the Warriors lobbed the ball in from the sideline across the floor directly to Chamberlain, who would use his size and strength to get the ball.[25][50] Chamberlain was the only Warrior to make a field goal in almost four minutes before Meschery made a jump shot at 4:15.[54] Philadelphia began quickly fouling New York with around four minutes left, reciprocating the intentional foul strategy. [55] Warriors coach Frank McGuire at one point pulled out his entire starting five, save Chamberlain, (i.e. forwards Tom Meschery, Al Attles and guards Guy Rodgers and Paul Arizin) and sent in bench players Joe Ruklick, York Larese, Ed Conlin and Ted Luckenbill. The intention was to foul the Knicks, get the ball back after free throws and give Chamberlain the ball. Thus each team spent the last minutes fouling each other.[52] The Warriors ended with 25 personal fouls, and the Knicks with 32, and lost Imhoff and Willie Naulls with six fouls.[21]

Plus he made 28 out of 32 free throws!

[madcougar]

Originally Posted by Pajiba

You know absolutely nothing about baseball history let alone the history of the World Series.

The World Series has in fact NOT always been a 7 game series.

The very first World Series in 1903 between the Pittsburgh Pirates and the Boston Americans was an 8 game series.

The 1912 World Series between the New York Giants and the Boston Red Sox was an 8 game series.

The 1919 World Series between the Cincinnati Reds and the Chicago White(Black) Sox was an 8 game series.

The 1921 World Series between the New York Giants and the New York Yankees was an 8 game series.

On a semi-related tangent, I don't think we will ever seen scab/replacement players employed in place of regular pros in any of the 4 major sports leagues (NFL, mlb, NHL, NBA) again. The owners will shut down the leagues for the duration of any strike rather than face the wrath of the fanboys blubbing about the substandard quality of play.

Uh oh! Someone figured out how to use Google!

[argh923]

Originally Posted by Jeremy517

Kobe played all but the last four seconds of the fourth quarter.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...601220LAL.html

I stand corrected. I could've sworn I remembered hearing about Phil asking Kobe if he wanted to go back in and go for 100, and Kobe saying no.

[fumanstan]

Originally Posted by abrg923

I stand corrected. I could've sworn I remembered hearing about Phil asking Kobe if he wanted to go back in and go for 100, and Kobe saying no.

There was another crazy scoring game, the one where Kobe had 62 points after 3 quarters against Dallas and he sat out the entire 4th quarter after Phil asked if he wanted to keep playing. You may be mixing it up with that game.

Still, given that Kobe "only" scored 81 during his selfish shooting years and still fell 19 points shy, 100 points is definitely one that won't be broken unless the NBA rules change drastically.

[Decker]

Originally Posted by abrg923

I stand corrected. I could've sworn I remembered hearing about Phil asking Kobe if he wanted to go back in and go for 100, and Kobe saying no.

I think you're confusing this game with the one against Dallas where he scored 62 and sat out the fourth. Had he wanted to, he could have gotten 80 that night pretty easily.

Again : Wilt's numbers were amazing, legit and unrepeatable, but since then the rules have changed and having big men camped under the basket isn't allowed any more. I'm not saying that Shaq or David Robinson would have ever scored 100, but since they scored 61 and 71 respectively with a 3-second rule in place, who's to say?

[argh923]

Yeah, you guys are right, that's the game I'm thinking of.

[Decker]

In honor of Jerred Weaver's No-Hitter yesterday, let's not forget Nolan Ryan's 7 seven career No-No's (three more than the second place pitcher-- some guy named Kofax), and Johnny Vander Meer's back-to-back No Hitters in 1938. Both records seem unbreakable -- especially Vanedr Meer's which would require someone to throw three consecutive No-hitters to be broken!

[Quake1028]

They were both mentioned earlier in the thread.

[JaxComet]

Tony Dorsett's 99 yard TD run with only 10 players on offense.

[brizz]

Originally Posted by JumpCutz

Actually it looks like my numbers were off.... Favre threw 508 touchdown passes.

Highly doubtful Manning throws 110 more career TD's.

Brees has 281. I would be shocked if he throws 228 more in his career.

Any QB going forward? Sure it could happen I suppose, but again, highly doubtful.

Matt Stafford has 60 and just turned 24...that's a nice headstart

Favre only averaged 27 tds a year over 19 seasons. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone to have a higher rate of production over a shorter career and catch him - especially in the "new NFL" that favors QBs so much. for example, Favre never broke 40 - Stafford did in his first full season. With Calvin inked for the next 7 years there's no reason to believe they won't continue to tear it up for a good long time. And if not Stafford, someone else will come along and do the same....the NFL has changed, and as a result I don't think any passing record is safe.