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Old 04-29-12, 01:28 AM   #26
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Re: Sports record that will NEVER be broken

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Brett was a testament to durability and longevity but it's not like his career records are untouchable.
I don't know, that interception record seems pretty untouchable.
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Old 04-29-12, 01:50 AM   #27
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cough steroids cough
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Still, he is in the record books as the career home run leader. No one will ever hit more than he did.
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Old 04-29-12, 01:57 AM   #28
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Are you serious? You think that record will never be broken? Peyton Manning is at 399 right now and didn't play last year. If he comes back to near his previous level, he'd break it in three years. If not, Drew Brees could challenge it, or any QB going forward. Brett was a testament to durability and longevity but it's not like his career records are untouchable.
Actually it looks like my numbers were off.... Favre threw 508 touchdown passes.

Highly doubtful Manning throws 110 more career TD's.

Brees has 281. I would be shocked if he throws 228 more in his career.

Any QB going forward? Sure it could happen I suppose, but again, highly doubtful.

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Old 04-29-12, 06:53 AM   #29
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Ernie Nevers scoring 40 points in an NFL game
I read this as "NHL" at first and was flabbergasted.
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Old 04-29-12, 08:19 AM   #30
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Re: Sports record that will NEVER be broken

Darryl Sittler's 10 point game.

Not impossible to break, but since it hasn't been broken yet - it makes me wonder. It's been 36 years afterall.

The closest is a bunch of 8 point games (including once this year). If Lemieux and Gretzky could "only" get 8 points in an offensive-minded era with many expansion teams (especially with Gretzky on the powerhouse Oilers team) - I'm not sure how it'll be done as hockey is more defensive now.

Interesting fact - Lemieux has 3 8-point games in his career (the most of any player)... and they all occurred in the same season. 3 games accounted for his 24 points that season. Wow.

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Old 04-29-12, 08:41 AM   #31
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Cy Young's 511 victories & 749 complete games

Walter Johnson's 110 shutouts
This is the answer of all answers for this thread, simply because the game of baseball is much different then when Cy Young pitched. Records like Wilt's 100 points, or Dimaggio's 56 game hitting streak probably won't be broken, BUT there is always a possiblity.

Cy Youngs 511 Wins and 749 Complete games will never be broken because pitching is much different in 2012 then it was in 1910.
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Old 04-29-12, 08:57 AM   #32
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Not on the same level as Cy, but I think Rivera's post season save record (42) will be hard to beat, along with his post season appearances (96). Those are both way ahead of #2.
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Old 04-29-12, 09:03 AM   #33
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Re: Sports record that will NEVER be broken

Ucla's 88 wins in a row
John Calipari's 3 vacated final fours ( unless he breaks his own record)
The Cubs' ongoing WS title drout will not be beaten by another franchise
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Old 04-29-12, 09:11 AM   #34
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Ucla's 88 wins in a row
John Calipari's 3 vacated final fours ( unless he breaks his own record)
at Cal. I thought it was 2 vacated, unless you're predicting.

The UCLA one is very secure. Totally different environment now. Freshman play. Studs leave after 1 or 2 years. UCLA was on an island out west...while they were no doubt a juggernaut and best team in the country, outside of a few games in a season (usually non-conference vs. teams like ND or Houston), their schedules were pretty soft. Plus the tournament was 2 games less and were strictly regional - there was no seeding and no effort to spread out the field out competitively. Plus if there were any decent Pac-8 teams (USC was pretty strong in that era I believe), they didn't have to worry about them since there was only 1 team/conference. So UCLA basically had a clear path to the F4.

Hell - it's been 36 years since a team ran the table in a single season. I think the UNLV juggernaut in the early 90s has the longest in the last 35 years: 45 straight.

The only thing that gives me pause is that you can get nearly 88 over 2 seasons. UK played 40 this season. So if you have a core group and can hold it together for 2 seasons, you would just need a handful in a 3rd season. 88 back then was probably 3 full seasons. Still...an extreme long shot.
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Old 04-29-12, 09:12 AM   #35
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Not on the same level as Cy, but I think Rivera's post season save record (42) will be hard to beat, along with his post season appearances (96). Those are both way ahead of #2.
Post-season career records in baseball mean nothing historically. Previous baseball greats could play at most 7 post-season games in a season until 1969. A third round was introduced in 1993. Now a baseball player could play 20 games in a single post-season, and we might not be done yet.
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Old 04-29-12, 09:30 AM   #36
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Post-season career records in baseball mean nothing historically. Previous baseball greats could play at most 7 post-season games in a season until 1969. A third round was introduced in 1993. Now a baseball player could play 20 games in a single post-season, and we might not be done yet.
Yep. A number of Yankees hold post season records simply because they got more playoff games to play. Eventually, they'll add more playoff teams and those records will be broken.
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Old 04-29-12, 10:56 AM   #37
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Oh, I agree, but I think those would stand a long time even if they went to a 7 game series in the first round and expanded the new wild card round. So much has to go right for a closer to amass save stats (kind of a worthless stat (save) within a worthless criteria (postseason)).
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Old 04-29-12, 11:10 AM   #38
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cough steroids cough

Well I can just say about Maris or Aaron *cough not many Latin american and no Asian players cough* or about Ruth *cough No Negroes or Latin Americans or Asians cough* right?
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Old 04-29-12, 11:12 AM   #39
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This is the answer of all answers for this thread, simply because the game of baseball is much different then when Cy Young pitched. Records like Wilt's 100 points, or Dimaggio's 56 game hitting streak probably won't be broken, BUT there is always a possiblity.

Cy Youngs 511 Wins and 749 Complete games will never be broken because pitching is much different in 2012 then it was in 1910.

Yeah, it's because pitchers are gutless pussies despite all of the wondrous modern technology available. What a bunch of cowards, all of them.
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Old 04-29-12, 11:18 AM   #40
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I haven't figured you out yet, Pajiba. First, you call out the old school players and now you dismiss the newer guys.
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Old 04-29-12, 01:48 PM   #41
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Rickey Henderson's 1406 stolen bases (that's ~70 per year for 20years).

Also not sure if anyone will come close to 130 in a season.

(For some perspective the highest single season total in the last 20 years is Jose Reyes with 78 and the active leader in steals is Juan Pierre with 577)
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Old 04-29-12, 07:22 PM   #42
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Secretariat in 1973 won The Belmont Stakes by 31 lengths with a record time for the mile & a half of 2 minutes & 24 seconds.
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Old 04-30-12, 02:09 AM   #43
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I think Bonds and Rose records can be broken but I think no one will want to break the HR record cause people will think that person is a roider. Who knows how small the strike zone will be in 20-25 years and with the advances in sports medicineguys will be able to hold onto peak level production 1-2 years longer and have 3-4 years longer pro careers.
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Old 04-30-12, 02:52 AM   #44
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I'll disagree with this one. I think it can and will happen eventually.

Look at a guy like Ichiro--I think he's got over 3,700 hits if you count his years in Japan.
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Eh, you can't assume Ichiro would have 3700 hits in MLB. I don't think anyone will argue that MLB is a big step up from any league around the world.
No, no one would argue that the Japanese league is on par with MLB, but take a closer look at the numbers. Ichiro had 1,278 hits in nine Japanese seasons (the first two mostly in the minors) and had 2,428 in his first 11 MLB seasons--so cardsfan's numbers were right on. But the Japanese league plays shorter seasons; in his first full season in 1994, his team played 130 games, and he never topped 546 AB in Japan. Say he had played those 18 full-time seasons in MLB and maintained his current average rate of 220 hits per season: you're already at 3,973. Yes, that would have to assume a high level of productivity over a very long period of time, but again, you're talking about an 11-year MLB average that he has already achieved, and he produced right out of the gate--that first full season, he set a Japanese record with 210 hits. Sixteen years later in 2010, he had 214 hits (last year's debacle saw 184 hits).

I don't think you can dismiss Ichiro in this conversation.
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Old 04-30-12, 02:59 AM   #45
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Actually it looks like my numbers were off.... Favre threw 508 touchdown passes.

Highly doubtful Manning throws 110 more career TD's.

Brees has 281. I would be shocked if he throws 228 more in his career.

Any QB going forward? Sure it could happen I suppose, but again, highly doubtful.
Maybe it's doubtful knowing what we know about Manning now, but as Decker mentioned, he missed all of last year, and he had 33 in each of the previous two seasons. It doesn't seem that big a stretch assuming good health that he could have gotten there.
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Old 04-30-12, 05:05 AM   #46
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I haven't figured you out yet, Pajiba. First, you call out the old school players and now you dismiss the newer guys.
He sounds like a cranky old man.
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Old 04-30-12, 06:08 AM   #47
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Secretariat in 1973 won The Belmont Stakes by 31 lengths with a record time for the mile & a half of 2 minutes & 24 seconds.
I'll go a step further about Horse Racing, will we ever see a Triple Crown winner ever again? When was the last one in 1978?
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Old 04-30-12, 10:22 AM   #48
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Kelso - 5 consecutive wins in the Jockey Club Gold Cup and 5 consecutive Horse of the Year titles.
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Kelso - 5 consecutive wins in the Jockey Club Gold Cup and 5 consecutive Horse of the Year titles.
Need a phenomenal gelding to beat that. Winning 2 HOTY consecutively is tough enough.
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Old 04-30-12, 10:36 AM   #50
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Interesting fact - Lemieux has 3 8-point games in his career (the most of any player)... and they all occurred in the same season. 3 games accounted for his 24 points that season. Wow.
Also, one of those 8-point Lemieux games was his "Five Goals Five Different Ways" game. That is a record I think will never be matched (since it can't be beat).

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