The February '12 Pro Wrestling Thread - Elimination Chamber/Against All Odds

[DGibFen]

WWE Wrestlemania XXVIII - April 1st at 8:00pm.
Current card subject to change:

Spoiler:

WWE Championship Match
CM Punk (c) vs. Chris Jericho

WWE World Heavyweight Championship Match
Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Sheamus

Main Event Match
John Cena vs. The Rock

Hell In A Cell to end the Attitude Era
Undertaker vs. Triple HHH

TNA's Against All Odds - February 12th at 8:00pm EST:

Spoiler:

TNA World Heavyweight Title Match with Special Guest Enforcer: Sting
Bobby Roode (c) vs Jeff Hardy vs James Storm vs Bully Ray

AJ Styles vs Kazarian w/Christopher Daniels

Gunner w/ Eric Bischoff vs. Garett Bischoff w/ Hulk Hogan

Tag Team Title Match
Matt Morgan & Crimson (c) vs. Samoa Joe & Magnus

X-Division Title Match
Austin Aries (c) vs Alex Shelley

Knockouts Title Match
Gail Kim (c) vs Tara

The Robbie E Invitational for the TNA TV Title
Robbie E (c) vs. Shannon Moore

X Division #1 Contender's Match
Jesse Sorensen vs Zema Ion
Match ended in a count-out DQ when Sorensen suffered a C-1 vertebrae fracture.

WWE's Elimination Chamber on February 19th at 8:00PM EST:

Spoiler:

Ambulance Match
John Cena vs. Kane

RAW Elimination Chamber Match for the WWE Championship
CM Punk (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Chris Jericho vs. R-Truth vs. The Miz vs. Kofi Kingston
Order of Elimination (Order of appearance in ellipses):
1. R-Truth (3) pinned by CM Punk (2)
2. Dolph Ziggler (4) pinned by Chris Jericho. (6)
3. Kofi Kingston (1) pinned by Chris Jericho.
4. Jericho DQ by injury.
5. The Miz (5) pinned by CM Punk.
Winner: CM Punk

SmackDown Elimination Chamber Match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Great Khali vs. Big Show vs. Cody Rhodes vs. Wade Barrett vs. Santino Marella
Order of Elimination:
1. The Great Kahli (5) pinned by The Big Show (2)
2. The Big Show pinned by Cody Rhodes (3)
3. Cody Rhodes pinned by Santino Marella (4)
4. Wade Barrett (1) pinned by Santino Marella
5. Santino Marella submitted by Daniel Bryan (6)
Winner: Daniel Bryan

WWE Divas' Championship Match
Beth Phoenix (c) vs. Tamina Snuka

WWE United States Championship Match
Jack Swagger (c) w/Vickie Guerrero vs. Justin Gabriel w/Hornswoggle

Royal Rumble Winner Sheamus will challenge Daniel Bryan (c) for the WWE World Heavyweight Title at Wrestlemania XXVIII.

[NORML54601]

Given the guys in the SD chamber, I'm thinking that Bryan keeps the belt going into Mania.

[NORML54601]

[DaveNinja]

If Daniel Bryan drops the belt before mania, they should have him run in during Takers mania match and start attacking takers opponent thus causing taker to lose by DQ. that would give DB so much heel heat

[Timber]

Huh, Khali? Am I so out of the loop on SD that Khali has come back in the last week and has earned and spot in a World Title match?

[NORML54601]

Originally Posted by Timber

Huh, Khali? Am I so out of the loop on SD that Khali has come back in the last week and has earned and spot in a World Title match?

He came back as a surprise entrant in the Rumble

[DGibFen]

Originally Posted by Timber

Huh, Khali? Am I so out of the loop on SD that Khali has come back in the last week and has earned and spot in a World Title match?

According to storyline, Henry was first announced, but he demanded a title match on Smackdown. Teddy denied him the title match, and threw him out of the Chamber match. Then Henry was suspended for "putting his hands on the GM". Khali is announced as his replacement. Don't know why.

In reality, Henry's got several injuries, and had no time to rest from his initial TLC groin injury.

[Charlie Goose]

Hell, throw Justin Gabriel in there rather than the Punjabi Pile. It would be a boost for him, even if he doesn't win.

[Sonny Corinthos]

[boredsilly]

So am I the last person to learn that Dolph Ziggler was in the Spirit Squad? I feel so deceived.

[Charlie Goose]

Originally Posted by boredsilly

So am I the last person to learn that Dolph Ziggler was in the Spirit Squad? I feel so deceived.

No, Little Jimmy didn't know either.

[Deadman31]

Originally Posted by Sonny Corinthos

OMG, this is the best gimmick ever. A farting female wrestler. Why didn't they ever think of this before? It must have taken all the top minds to come up with this one, but they are missing one thing. Bring back Jim Neidhart as Who? and they can do a whole Who? farted father/daughter routine. Genius.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Deadman31

OMG, this is the best gimmick ever. A farting female wrestler. Why didn't they ever think of this before?

I can't help but think this has something to do with the 'focus groups of 12-17 year olds' that were mentioned in last month's thread.

[Dr. DVD]

Why are they doing this to Natalya? This is on the level of making the major point of Molly Holly that she had a big butt. I wonder how long it will be before we see matches where Natalya locks her opponent in the sharp shooter , starts losing control of her gas, and then it becomes a gimmick where her opponents tap out the minute she locks them in it to avoid her chemical warfare? Really, this is beyond stupid.

The most recent Impact was interesting. They must truly be starved for wrestling across the pond as that arena looked packed.

[DthRdrX]

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD

Why are they doing this to Natalya? This is on the level of making the major point of Molly Holly that she had a big butt. I wonder how long it will be before we see matches where Natalya locks her opponent in the sharp shooter , starts losing control of her gas, and then it becomes a gimmick where her opponents tap out the minute she locks them in it to avoid her chemical warfare? Really, this is beyond stupid.

It actually reminded me of when Mickie James made it known that she was leaving in a month or so and she suddenly became Miss Piggy James. I wonder if Natalya had made it known backstage that she ready to leave over her terrible booking.

Oh, 'rise above hate' indeed WWE!

[Dr. DVD]

^ I honestly feel that she would be better booked in TNA. Most likely not paid as well, but still, at least she might be able to do something worthwhile.

[DthRdrX]

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD

^ I honestly feel that she would be better booked in TNA. Most likely not paid as well, but still, at least she might be able to do something worthwhile.

Sadly, wrestling has surely gone backwards since Vince has had no competition in over a decade and doesn't even try anymore. I can't even imagine 'writers' sitting in a WWE creative meeting thinking that having a woman fart is going to get her over. I don't believe that BS excuse at all. It's either a slap at Natalya or at the Harts in general.

Go back 15 years and the only wrestler I can think of that would prefer working for a small company for much less pay would have been Shane Douglas. (Though that's probably because he knew he wasn't very welcome in WCW or the WWF) Even he reconsidered when the offer was right.

It says something today when all of these wrestlers prefer going to a small company for much less pay.

[TheKing]

Originally Posted by DthRdrX

Sadly, wrestling has surely gone backwards since Vince has had no competition in over a decade and doesn't even try anymore. I can't even imagine 'writers' sitting in a WWE creative meeting thinking that having a woman fart is going to get her over. I don't believe that BS excuse at all. It's either a slap at Natalya or at the Harts in general.

Go back 15 years and the only wrestler I can think of that would prefer working for a small company for much less pay would have been Shane Douglas. (Though that's probably because he knew he wasn't very welcome in WCW or the WWF) Even he reconsidered when the offer was right.

It says something today when all of these wrestlers prefer going to a small company for much less pay.

It's really only the women that leave for far less pay, as TNA pays their women nothing. But TNA does let their women actually work, unlike WWE.

The guys that TNA grabs from WWE get paid decently, at least the bigger names like Angle. In the end, most of the guys TNA brings in from WWE are castoffs. Angle wouldn't go to rehab so WWE let him go. Hardy had his drug issues then got arrested right after his WWE deal ended. Kennedy...Anderson was dumped thanks to Orton's whining, but it didn't help that he was injury prone as well.

About the only guy in TNA that could be in WWE if he wanted is RVD. He's chosen the smaller company for less pay because he likes weed and doesn't want to be subject to WWE's drug testing. And even TNA doesn't use him all that much anymore.

[fujishig]

They've gotta be paying Mickie James some money, right? I think just like the male castoffs, they'll pay for the "WWE name" for the females too, it's just the homegrown talent, most of whom they know won't jump ship, that they treat badly/underpay.

[Sonny Corinthos]

PWInsider.com is reporting that the following current and former WWE Superstars will be inductors for the 2012 Hall of Fame ceremony.

Spoiler:

- Steve Austin inducting Mike Tyson

- The Rock inducting the late Yokozuna

- JBL inducting Ron Simmons

- Alberto Del Rio inducting uncle Mil Mascaras

- Christian inducting Edge

- Triple H and Shawn Michaels inducting The Four Horsemen

[DthRdrX]

Originally Posted by TheKing

It's really only the women that leave for far less pay, as TNA pays their women nothing. But TNA does let their women actually work, unlike WWE.

The guys that TNA grabs from WWE get paid decently, at least the bigger names like Angle. In the end, most of the guys TNA brings in from WWE are castoffs. Angle wouldn't go to rehab so WWE let him go. Hardy had his drug issues then got arrested right after his WWE deal ended. Kennedy...Anderson was dumped thanks to Orton's whining, but it didn't help that he was injury prone as well.

About the only guy in TNA that could be in WWE if he wanted is RVD. He's chosen the smaller company for less pay because he likes weed and doesn't want to be subject to WWE's drug testing. And even TNA doesn't use him all that much anymore.

Angle gets paid nothing compared to what he could have gotten from the WWE. No way is he getting the merchandising money he would be grabbing in the WWE. He just didn't like being told to take some time off and get himself back into sane shape.

How many drug suspensions have numerous guys had and are still not pushed out. Half the company has had substance-abuse policy 'suspensions'. How many guys have come back to an open door after leaving? Road Dog just came back for example, and that's a guy that has numerous shoots online calling HHH every rotten name in the book. I can think of a lot of guys over the last decade that went to TNA for less pay but more of a top spot or being fed up with WWE creative...

Christian, Dudleys, Steiner, Sting, Angle, Jeff Hardy, RVD are just the beginning of that list of talent. If you think the WWE won't bring Hardy or any of the others back in eventually just wait. RVD has already stated he's probably coming back when his contract is up.

Christy Hemme is probably the only one getting paid more in TNA though, at least compared to the other working KOs. Everyone knows why she was pushed out of the WWE. (Jealousy with Steph over HHH) Mickie James is the second highest paid KO. Both are over 100K a year.

[Timber]

Truth gets zero crowd reaction. Too bad they destroyed that original heel heat he had by making him a cartoon character. Now trying to make him a face again and no one cares.

[TheBigDave]

Ouch. Did you see Truth go splat on the floor?

[Timber]

Maybe he'll go away and "re-tool" his character.

[Timber]

That was a beautiful GTS. He usually doesn't hit it that good.