Myers vs. Hamels, and the winner is....

JOE29 · 11-07-09, 08:13 AM

After Cole Hamels made that assinine comment about being too tired and wishing the season was over Brett Myers got in his face and I hear they had a big confrintation. Now today Amaro says that Myers will not be back with the Phillies next season.
But there has been no mention of ancient Jamie Moyer yet.
That's not to say he won't be gone, but I would of dumped Moyer first then dealt with Myers later on. I feel he was let go because of the Hamels confrintation.

coli · 11-07-09, 09:08 AM

I am no Cole Hammels defender, but his words were taken out of context. If you saw the questions given by Leslie Gudel right after Game 3, he was first asked if he wanted to pitch game 7, and he responded, "Yes." Then they asked him about how bad his season personally has gone for him, and he was responding not in the context of wanting the WS to end, but he was saying that he having such an awful season, he couldn't wait for his nightmare season to end. And his pitching performance in Game 3 reflected that.

Secondly, Myers is a free agent, and made 12 million last year. What you sign a pitcher to a long term contract, who is coming off of major hip surgery?

Thirdly, Moyer signed a two year deal last offseason, so the Phillies are stuck with him for 2010. Now they can cut him and eat his contract like they did with Geoff Jenkins, but I think they are going to see if they can find a 5th starter on the free agent market, and if they don't, Moyer will start the season at #5.

Finally, Hammels pitching performance reflects so many young pitchers who won the WS MVP. Remember Brett Saberhagen and Orel Hersheiser?? Dominating pitchers in the '85 and '88 WS, and both had subpar years the following season. Cole says some dumb things, but he is a great talent and only 25 years old.

Deftones · 11-07-09, 09:53 AM

there is an offseason baseball thread you know...

JOE29 · 11-07-09, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coli

I am no Cole Hammels defender, but his words were taken out of context. If you saw the questions given by Leslie Gudel right after Game 3, he was first asked if he wanted to pitch game 7, and he responded, "Yes." Then they asked him about how bad his season personally has gone for him, and he was responding not in the context of wanting the WS to end, but he was saying that he having such an awful season, he couldn't wait for his nightmare season to end. And his pitching performance in Game 3 reflected that.

Secondly, Myers is a free agent, and made 12 million last year. What you sign a pitcher to a long term contract, who is coming off of major hip surgery?

Thirdly, Moyer signed a two year deal last offseason, so the Phillies are stuck with him for 2010. Now they can cut him and eat his contract like they did with Geoff Jenkins, but I think they are going to see if they can find a 5th starter on the free agent market, and if they don't, Moyer will start the season at #5.

Finally, Hammels pitching performance reflects so many young pitchers who won the WS MVP. Remember Brett Saberhagen and Orel Hersheiser?? Dominating pitchers in the '85 and '88 WS, and both had subpar years the following season. Cole says some dumb things, but he is a great talent and only 25 years old.

OK, Your points are well taken. I'd be more upset with Moyer comming back.
I'm not against him at all, but his age is creeping up on him.

kenbuzz · 11-07-09, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Deftones

there is an offseason baseball thread you know...

Oh, this is about baseball. I had no freaking clue who these people were and thought this was another obscure Wrestling/Fighting Arts thread.

CRM114 · 11-07-09, 04:39 PM

As much as I admire Myers' on field warrior play, he was a wife-beating douchebag. Bye bye.

And it's spelled HAMELS. One M.

Deftones · 11-07-09, 04:44 PM

Boom, outta here!

jPoD_TGN · 11-07-09, 07:50 PM

Please spell 'Hamels' correctly. It makes me cringe to see it misspelled.

coli · 11-08-09, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jPoD_TGN

Please spell 'Hamels' correctly. It makes me cringe to see it misspelled.

OMG, I spelled Hamels wrong! The Sky is falling! The Sky is falling!

BTW, both of your sentences are a fragments, as you should have said, "Please spell Hamels correctly, as it makes me cringe to see it misspelled."

jPoD_TGN · 11-10-09, 02:45 AM

I can split that into two sentences if I so please.

11-07-09, 08:13 AM	#1
JOE29 DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Millville, New Jersey Posts: 1,663	Myers vs. Hamels, and the winner is.... After Cole Hamels made that assinine comment about being too tired and wishing the season was over Brett Myers got in his face and I hear they had a big confrintation. Now today Amaro says that Myers will not be back with the Phillies next season. But there has been no mention of ancient Jamie Moyer yet. That's not to say he won't be gone, but I would of dumped Moyer first then dealt with Myers later on. I feel he was let go because of the Hamels confrintation.

11-07-09, 09:08 AM	#2
coli DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,251	Re: Myers vs. Hamels, and the winner is.... I am no Cole Hammels defender, but his words were taken out of context. If you saw the questions given by Leslie Gudel right after Game 3, he was first asked if he wanted to pitch game 7, and he responded, "Yes." Then they asked him about how bad his season personally has gone for him, and he was responding not in the context of wanting the WS to end, but he was saying that he having such an awful season, he couldn't wait for his nightmare season to end. And his pitching performance in Game 3 reflected that. Secondly, Myers is a free agent, and made 12 million last year. What you sign a pitcher to a long term contract, who is coming off of major hip surgery? Thirdly, Moyer signed a two year deal last offseason, so the Phillies are stuck with him for 2010. Now they can cut him and eat his contract like they did with Geoff Jenkins, but I think they are going to see if they can find a 5th starter on the free agent market, and if they don't, Moyer will start the season at #5. Finally, Hammels pitching performance reflects so many young pitchers who won the WS MVP. Remember Brett Saberhagen and Orel Hersheiser?? Dominating pitchers in the '85 and '88 WS, and both had subpar years the following season. Cole says some dumb things, but he is a great talent and only 25 years old.

11-07-09, 09:53 AM	#3
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CRM114 DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lehigh Valley Posts: 21,985	Re: Myers vs. Hamels, and the winner is.... As much as I admire Myers' on field warrior play, he was a wife-beating douchebag. Bye bye. And it's spelled HAMELS. One M.

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Deftones DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Arizona Posts: 44,827	Re: Myers vs. Hamels, and the winner is.... Boom, outta here! __________________ John Henson: McDonald's has dumped Kobe Bryant as their spokesperson and have replaced him with Yao Ming. Apparently McDonald's prefers Yao because he is a bigger international star, and he doesn't rape so much. "You are everything that's wrong with this forum".---SleepyW

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11-10-09, 02:45 AM	#10
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