The Official MMA Thread - Part V

VinVega · 09-23-09, 11:49 AM

Previous thread HERE.

Continue discussion.

Slumbering Fist · 09-23-09, 12:11 PM

Its always hard to believe when fighters "retire." Seen far too many instances of guys bowing out and coming back, rinse and repeat.

Rampage is especially hard to believe considering the wishy-washy whims of his personal and managerial life, both of which have been rocky the past year+. He'll make a try at the acting thing and when he doesn't have a project on the horizon and six months to twiddle his thumbs until a gig is lined up, bet your ass he'll reconsider fighting.

The bottom line is, it is another instance of Dana's loudmouth getting him into trouble- a thing he will never learn to control- and a fighter tethering the reigns on their career.

tbird2340 · 09-23-09, 01:23 PM

Dana's response to the Rampage retirement via Carmichael Dave show.

Goat3001 · 09-23-09, 01:39 PM

I'm pissed that Rampage and Rashad won't be fighting for a long time. That would have been a really fun fight to see and now all the trash talk during TUF will be bittersweet.

tbird2340 · 09-23-09, 01:43 PM

Well, it wasn't going to be until at least March even if Rampage didn't so call "retire"..

I would be willing to bet they still fight next year and will be Rampage's first fight out of "retirement"..

stingermck · 09-23-09, 02:40 PM

Who knows, maybe this will go down like The Rock and WWE. Rampage may decide acting is a lot easier than getting punched in the face.

Dont get me wrong, I like Rampage, and really want to him and Rashad fight, but its his life.

What I cant understand is (aside from delaying the fight) why didnt Dana support him? His ass was front row for Chuck during Dancing with the Stars. Why wouldnt he want a little cross promotion with a potential summer blockbuster?

Heres a link I just ran across with Dana talking about it:

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"I hate it with a [expletive] passion," White said when asked about UFC fighters who take movie roles. "'You're a fighter; you're not a movie star.' It's so [expletive] funny because fighters want to be movie stars, and movie stars want to act like they're fighters. 'Get a [expletive] grip. You're a fighter, and you're a [expletive] movie star. Alright?'"

http://mmajunkie.com/news/16003/dana...-thespians.mma

So...Chuck is not a dancer.

and now Dana's response to Rampage's posting:

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White called the allegation “crazy.”

“Because I got so pissed off about him pulling out of the fight with Rashad -- I’m speaking my mind (and) he thinks I’m trying to ruin his movie career. It’s crazy,” White told Carmichael Dave on Tuesday.

White said that prior to the post, he’d spoken with Rampage as a “friend, to talk him out of making a bad decision.” White also said Jackson was “acting like a baby now, but he’s a grown man.”

“I have nothing bad to say about Rampage. He’s a grown man,” White told Carmichael Dave. “(If) this guy decides he wants to walk away from guaranteed good money right now, money that he’ll never have the opportunity to make for the rest of his life, because he wants to go off and make movies, he’s a grown man. He can do whatever he wants to do.”

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles...e-reacts-19886

Wait. Is Dana saying he would make more money on the fight than in a movie? Hmmm.

tbird2340 · 09-23-09, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stingermck

What I cant understand is (aside from delaying the fight) why didnt Dana support him? His ass was front row for Chuck during Dancing with the Stars. Why wouldnt he want a little cross promotion with a potential summer blockbuster?

Aside from delaying the fight?? I'd say that's a pretty effin big deal dude.. What do you think the entire season of TUF is for? To build the drama and interest for the Rashad / Rampage fight and for major PPV numbers..

Now, that's gone.. Even if Rampage didn't retire they still weren't going to fight until around March of next year which by then it would be similar to Hughes / Serra.. Drama = gone...

Plus, Rampage supposedly begged Dana since he got in the UFC to have a fight in his home town of Memphis so the UFC made it happen and for what now...

And, another thing.. The UFC stepping in and most likely having a pretty big influence in Rampage getting out of all that trouble he was in w/ the law..

I'd be pissed as hell if Rampage did that too..

EDIT TO ADD: And about Chuck.. Supposedly he's retired so that's really not the same comparing the two.. Not to mention him and Dana are like best friends..

MrX · 09-23-09, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stingermck

So...Chuck is not a dancer.

Chuck's not much of a fighter anymore either.

stingermck · 09-23-09, 02:58 PM

Ok, thats why I asked

tbird2340 · 09-23-09, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stingermck

Ok, thats why I asked

Sorry, didn't mean to come off as a Delta...

stingermck · 09-23-09, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tbird2340

Sorry, didn't mean to come off as a Delta...

I didn't know about the Memphis thing, interesting.

MrX · 09-23-09, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tbird2340

Sorry, didn't mean to come off as a Delta...

You would have had to call him a TUF® noob and taken several shots at Dana White to sound like Delta.

tbird2340 · 09-23-09, 03:07 PM

True... True.. Ahh, so much nicer w/out him..

stingermck · 09-23-09, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tbird2340

True... True.. Ahh, so much nicer w/out him..

Did I miss a ban?

tbird2340 · 09-23-09, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stingermck

Did I miss a ban?

Yup, but I don't know why.. I just seen his username in a thread a while back and seen "suspended" under it.. Not sure what the reason was..

Thrush · 09-23-09, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Slumbering Fist

The bottom line is, it is another instance of Dana's loudmouth getting him into trouble- a thing he will never learn to control- and a fighter tethering the reigns on their career.

From Rampages retirement post. It really seems like Dana's 2nd tirade was the straw that broke the camels back. You'd think he wouldn't want to alienate one of the few Marketable American fighters left in the UFC, esp in the LHW division. But thats Dana.

zuffy · 09-23-09, 05:43 PM

I hope his sorry ass stays retire.

Rypro 525 · 09-23-09, 10:34 PM

maybe 2 fights tonight?

MrX · 09-23-09, 10:41 PM

Shivers gassed 2 minutes into the first round after laying on the guy for 90 seconds.

MrX · 09-23-09, 10:47 PM

@ Rashad going apeshit

astrochimp · 09-23-09, 10:49 PM

OMG i hate heavyweights

MrX · 09-23-09, 10:49 PM

Seriously, from what we've seen in two fights none of these guys had any reason to be talking shit about Kimbo.

MrX · 09-23-09, 11:00 PM

That fight was awful but I don't know how you give both rounds to McSweeney, especially the 1st.

stingermck · 09-23-09, 11:02 PM

Damn, 1 guy gassed out and another afraid to engage. I would've liked to have seen round 3 with either a pass out or more running

Next weeks fight should be great.

astrochimp · 09-23-09, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MrX

That fight was awful but I don't know how you give both rounds to McSweeney, especially the 1st.

Yeah i thought at least theyd go for a 3rd round but then again it woulda just been the two of them standing there trying to catch their breath.

Kimbo vs Big Country up next!

09-23-09, 11:49 AM	#1
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09-23-09, 12:11 PM	#2
Slumbering Fist DVD Talk Reviewer Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 3,151	Re: The Official MMA Thread - Part V Its always hard to believe when fighters "retire." Seen far too many instances of guys bowing out and coming back, rinse and repeat. Rampage is especially hard to believe considering the wishy-washy whims of his personal and managerial life, both of which have been rocky the past year+. He'll make a try at the acting thing and when he doesn't have a project on the horizon and six months to twiddle his thumbs until a gig is lined up, bet your ass he'll reconsider fighting. The bottom line is, it is another instance of Dana's loudmouth getting him into trouble- a thing he will never learn to control- and a fighter tethering the reigns on their career.

09-23-09, 01:23 PM	#3
tbird2340 DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ytown, Ohio Posts: 4,218	Re: The Official MMA Thread - Part V Dana's response to the Rampage retirement via Carmichael Dave show. __________________ Michael: When I was five, I imagined that there was such a thing as a unicorn. And this is before I even heard of one or seen one. I just drew a picture of a horse that could fly over rainbows and had a huge spike in its head. I was five, five years old... couldn't even talk yet. Xbox Live! - Tbird2340

09-23-09, 01:39 PM	#4
Goat3001 DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 8,474	Re: The Official MMA Thread - Part V I'm pissed that Rampage and Rashad won't be fighting for a long time. That would have been a really fun fight to see and now all the trash talk during TUF will be bittersweet. __________________ My Countdown Counting down to: Lost: Final Season Premiere 80 days 2 hours 25 minutes

09-23-09, 01:43 PM	#5
tbird2340 DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ytown, Ohio Posts: 4,218	Re: The Official MMA Thread - Part V Well, it wasn't going to be until at least March even if Rampage didn't so call "retire".. I would be willing to bet they still fight next year and will be Rampage's first fight out of "retirement".. __________________ Michael: When I was five, I imagined that there was such a thing as a unicorn. And this is before I even heard of one or seen one. I just drew a picture of a horse that could fly over rainbows and had a huge spike in its head. I was five, five years old... couldn't even talk yet. Xbox Live! - Tbird2340

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stingermck DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 4,939	Re: The Official MMA Thread - Part V Ok, thats why I asked __________________ "We wouldn't have to "regress" so much if it wasn't for that weird period in comics history when EVERYTHING in comics had to be awful and bleak. Characters died, became killers, were crippled and had lots of pouches and belts on their costumes, and we, this generation of creators, represent the undoing of that." - Ethan Van Sciver

09-23-09, 03:07 PM	#13
tbird2340 DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ytown, Ohio Posts: 4,218	Re: The Official MMA Thread - Part V True... True.. Ahh, so much nicer w/out him.. __________________ Michael: When I was five, I imagined that there was such a thing as a unicorn. And this is before I even heard of one or seen one. I just drew a picture of a horse that could fly over rainbows and had a huge spike in its head. I was five, five years old... couldn't even talk yet. Xbox Live! - Tbird2340

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MrX DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 15,625	Re: The Official MMA Thread - Part V Shivers gassed 2 minutes into the first round after laying on the guy for 90 seconds. __________________ "FU New Orleans...... I go over and help you during your Katrina catastrophe, and you stape me in the back like Julius Ceasar........GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!" - Dalvin "And what comedian designer configured the region between our legs-an entertainment complex built around a sewage system?" - Neil deGrasse Tyson My Countdown Counting down to: Summer Vacation

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MrX DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 15,625	Re: The Official MMA Thread - Part V @ Rashad going apeshit __________________ "FU New Orleans...... I go over and help you during your Katrina catastrophe, and you stape me in the back like Julius Ceasar........GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!" - Dalvin "And what comedian designer configured the region between our legs-an entertainment complex built around a sewage system?" - Neil deGrasse Tyson My Countdown Counting down to: Summer Vacation

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astrochimp DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 5,095	Re: The Official MMA Thread - Part V OMG i hate heavyweights __________________ my small dvd collection Xbox Live tag: spacemunky49

09-23-09, 10:49 PM	#22
MrX DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 15,625	Re: The Official MMA Thread - Part V Seriously, from what we've seen in two fights none of these guys had any reason to be talking shit about Kimbo. __________________ "FU New Orleans...... I go over and help you during your Katrina catastrophe, and you stape me in the back like Julius Ceasar........GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!" - Dalvin "And what comedian designer configured the region between our legs-an entertainment complex built around a sewage system?" - Neil deGrasse Tyson My Countdown Counting down to: Summer Vacation

09-23-09, 11:00 PM	#23
MrX DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 15,625	Re: The Official MMA Thread - Part V That fight was awful but I don't know how you give both rounds to McSweeney, especially the 1st. __________________ "FU New Orleans...... I go over and help you during your Katrina catastrophe, and you stape me in the back like Julius Ceasar........GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!" - Dalvin "And what comedian designer configured the region between our legs-an entertainment complex built around a sewage system?" - Neil deGrasse Tyson My Countdown Counting down to: Summer Vacation

09-23-09, 11:02 PM	#24
stingermck DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 4,939	Re: The Official MMA Thread - Part V Damn, 1 guy gassed out and another afraid to engage. I would've liked to have seen round 3 with either a pass out or more running Next weeks fight should be great. __________________ "We wouldn't have to "regress" so much if it wasn't for that weird period in comics history when EVERYTHING in comics had to be awful and bleak. Characters died, became killers, were crippled and had lots of pouches and belts on their costumes, and we, this generation of creators, represent the undoing of that." - Ethan Van Sciver