The Official MMA Thread - Part V

[Rival11]

Has anyone watched Tito's post fight presser at ufc.com?? "I thought I won the fight", "I thought I won the fight", "I thought I won the fight", "it is what it is, it is what it is, it is what it is," "My career is in Dana's hands", "My career is in Dana's hands", "My career is in Dana's hands", "My career is in Dana's hands".....................SHUT UP!!!!!

[BravesMG]

Originally Posted by Rival11

Has anyone watched Tito's post fight presser at ufc.com?? "I thought I won the fight", "I thought I won the fight", "I thought I won the fight", "it is what it is, it is what it is, it is what it is," "My career is in Dana's hands", "My career is in Dana's hands", "My career is in Dana's hands", "My career is in Dana's hands".....................SHUT UP!!!!!

Also with the "I left my heart and soul out there" at least 50 times.

What's odd is that Ortiz isn't on the medical suspension list. You would think with two herniated discs and/or a fractured skull, they might take a look at that. Griffin was suspended for 6 months with his previously fractured foot and Anthony Johnson was simply suspended for precautionary reasons.

[tbird2340]

Watching the Koscheck / Johnson fight again.. I really don't see Johnson hitting Koscheck in the eye anywhere when he took that knee.. Anyone think Kos was faking?

[BravesMG]

Joe Rogan's twitter feed says this is when Koscheck took the poke in the eye: http://media.photobucket.com/image/r...s77/1y1tw7.gif

[tbird2340]

Ahhh... Thanks man.. I see it now.

[Goat3001]

Originally Posted by Rival11

Has anyone watched Tito's post fight presser at ufc.com?? "I thought I won the fight", "I thought I won the fight", "I thought I won the fight", "it is what it is, it is what it is, it is what it is," "My career is in Dana's hands", "My career is in Dana's hands", "My career is in Dana's hands", "My career is in Dana's hands".....................SHUT UP!!!!!

He was sure spouting off excuse after excuse in his post fight interview. It sucks that you're hurt and it's cool that you made it into the octagon and put on a good fight but don't take away from the other guys win by listing all the places on your body that hurt.

Now we're guaranteed to see Tito/Forrest III. I enjoyed this fight but that's because I'm a Forrest fan. I just don't know if I really want to see a 3rd one.

All in all it was a great card that I wasn't expecting much from. It seemed that every fight from the Spike Prelims and the PPV itself were solid. Great wins for Kendall Grove, Amir Saddolah, Ben Saunders and Australian George.

I think it's time they give George a bigger name to fight. His Jiu Jitsu is great and he's not young so might as well give him his chance sooner than later.

Little Nog looked fantastic. I think he'll have to take a few fights before getting a title shot but I always like seeing another good name get thrown in the mix. I wouldn't be surprised if he fought Forrest next. Assuming he wins I think they'll throw him in for a #1 contender fight.

Josh Koscheck had a big win too. I would have liked to see Anthony Johnson win only because I think he'd be a very interesting fight for GSP. A good wrestler with a heavy hand might be the kind of guy that can give GSP a run for his money. As it stands, it looks like he'll need more training before he can attempt that... but he has time.

[Slumbering Fist]

Originally Posted by Goat3001

Josh Koscheck had a big win too. I would have liked to see Anthony Johnson win only because I think he'd be a very interesting fight for GSP. A good wrestler with a heavy hand might be the kind of guy that can give GSP a run for his money. As it stands, it looks like he'll need more training before he can attempt that... but he has time.

I think AJ is a lot rawer than most want to admit. I dont see Johnson as a great wrestler or striker. Wrestlingwise, his sub defense is pathetic and for all his power striking, when anyone lands on him first, his instinct is to be annoyed and retreat with maybe one counter punch thrown on the way out.

[tbird2340]

Please be true.. Please be true..

Wanderlei Silva’s next fight will be with Michael Bisping, a well-placed Las Vegas source has told Fighters Only. The fight may headline the UFC’s first event in Australia, which takes place in February 2010.

Verbal agreements for the clash have been given, although Fighters Only understands that bout agreements are not yet drawn up. The fight will not be official until these are signed and returned by both men.

I would love to see Bisping KTFO again!

[d2cheer]

Originally Posted by tbird2340

Please be true.. Please be true..



I would love to see Bisping KTFO again!

Same here.

[Goat3001]

Originally Posted by Slumbering Fist

I think AJ is a lot rawer than most want to admit. I dont see Johnson as a great wrestler or striker. Wrestlingwise, his sub defense is pathetic and for all his power striking, when anyone lands on him first, his instinct is to be annoyed and retreat with maybe one counter punch thrown on the way out.

I noticed a lot of that too. He might be raw but he has the skillset to be a pretty prominent fighter. He's only 25 so give him a few years and the right opponents and he might be a serious contender.

[starseed1981]

Originally Posted by tbird2340

Please be true.. Please be true..



I would love to see Bisping KTFO again!

Please. Please. Please. I would absolutely buy that PPV.

[TheDude]

What happened to Silva/Akiyama? I know that was rumored at some point (thought it was nearly signed), but it now appears that's off. Boo!

[MrX]

Bisping/Wand was supposed to be the main event at the UK that happened a few weeks ago but Wand's plastic surgery stopped it. Not surprised they went back to it.

[Slumbering Fist]

Originally Posted by MrX

Bisping/Wand was supposed to be the main event at the UK that happened a few weeks ago but Wand's plastic surgery stopped it. Not surprised they went back to it.

Come on now, it was corrective surgery.

I like the Bisping-Wand fight much better.

The way Akiyama looked against Belcher, I think they need to give him another test the waters fight.

[MrX]

Gonzaga/dos Santos is off, Gonzaga has a staph infection.

[MrX]

GSP vs Dan Hardy will be the main event at UFC 111 in March in New Jersey

[starseed1981]

Originally Posted by MrX

GSP vs Dan Hardy will be the main event at UFC 111 in March in New Jersey

Hardy better hope to connect fast and early. I think he's got more of a chance than people give him credit for, but I wouldn't be surprised if GSP is able to mentally break him really early and put him away.

Its better than the Bisping / Rashad match up Jersey got last time anyhow.

[Rival11]

Originally Posted by MrX

Bisping/Wand was supposed to be the main event at the UK that happened a few weeks ago but Wand's plastic surgery stopped it. Not surprised they went back to it.

Yeah, I heard about this one a while back as well but forgot about it.

I don't know why but for whatever reason I am really excited for this fight as well. I think it has to do with Bisping once again fighting a real threat.

As much as I couldn't stand him before the Hendo fight, that has really went away for me as he is the one that actually asked for the fight against Wand right off the bat upon returning - ya gotta respect that and I personally think it shows that he is serious about trying to really make a mark.

[MrX]

Silva/Belfort is off again and it may not happen until April now because of Anderson's elbow.

Couture/Coleman is probably the main event now

[BravesMG]

Is there a legit UFC main event anyone is really looking forward to? If they can ever get that Big Nog/Cain fight together that should be pretty good, but holy shit the next few months looks unbelievably weak.

[MrX]

Yeah it's a crappy schedule until the spring after Penn/Sanchez, this is what it looks like right now

TUF 10: Finale - Jon Jones vs Matt Hamill
UFC 107: Penn vs Sanchez
UFC 108: Evans vs Silva
UFN: Gray Maynard vs Nick Diaz
UFC 109: Coleman vs Couture
UFC 110: Nog vs Cain (If Nog's ready) or Bisping vs Silva if he's not
UFC 111: GSP vs Hardy
April event: Silva vs Belfort
May event: Machida vs Rua II

If Nog can't go I imagine they'll try and stick Carwin/Cain in there somewhere for the interim belt.

[BravesMG]

Penn/Sanchez went from a nice little fight to basically the best main event (and only title fight) of the winter. I still think Penn dominates Sanchez everywhere, but at least it should be entertaining. Jones/Hamill has some potential as a good fight night main event and depending on who the remaining TUF HWs are fighting (hopefully Nelson/Jones) maybe that show will be useful once in the damn season.

But I honestly thought Evans/Silva might have been the worst PPV main event in recent history... only to be eclipsed two weeks later with Silva's prolonged recovery, leading to a probable Coleman/Couture PPV Main Event. Ugh.

[starseed1981]

Penn Vs. Sanchez is good. And I am interested in Evans Vs. Silva. But besides that it looks like a rebuilding year for the UFC.

[Slumbering Fist]

I think this was inevitable, but I didnt see it falling like dominoes. A year ago whn the UFC announced how many more cards a year it had planned, it just seemed like way too many. To be fair, Strikeforce made similar, too lofty, "We're doing a bazillion cards a year" claims when they went wide- look at how well thats doing.

When you make your cards all about the main event and stack so many so close together, its kind of bound to fall apart, whereas if they space it out a bit and make it about mains and co-mains to sell a ppv (their norm practice), I think it is far easier to restructure when a big fight is impeded.

Look at it this way: Pair any of these two upcoming main events Penn-Sanchez, GSP-Hardy, Evans-Silva, Coleman-Couture, Nog-Cain, or Bisping-Silva, and you've got a fine ppv. Really the only weak combo would be Evans-Silva and Coleman-Couture, but even then its better than the cards as currently planned. I realize there is a big problem with how they presell the venue and ppv slot, but still... foresight is your friend.

[BravesMG]

Originally Posted by Slumbering Fist

When you make your cards all about the main event and stack so many so close together, its kind of bound to fall apart, whereas if they space it out a bit and make it about mains and co-mains to sell a ppv (their norm practice), I think it is far easier to restructure when a big fight is impeded.

I think that's a very good point. I believe last year's December PPV was Mir/Big Nog, Evans/Griffin (LW Title), and Silva/Rampage. That's just a ridiculous card, and while it was stacked, I don't see them putting three huge fights on a card like that in the upcoming months, which is leaving them with the Silva/Evans and Couture/Coleman main events.

They're stuck in the position where they need to backfill these injuries with other fights like Koscheck/Johnson. While that was a nice fight, both of those guys could have likely been better utilized in higher profile fights instead of a last minute substitution. It also leaves them with having to capitalize on the 'hot' contender like Hardy or Carwin instead of really setting up true #1 contenders or fights. This Mir/Kongo fight is the best example of a big name being wasted on a nothing fight. Mir could easily be in a much better co-main event than that, but he's stuck with Kongo because that's how the schedule worked out.