Fantasy Football Talk 2009

[Goat3001]

I was 50/50 on it. I don't think Brees is that much of an upgrade and I also don't know what to expect from Braylon Edwards this year. But considering I would have to start Chris Henry (who I do think will have a good year) it might be enough to keep me from making that trade.

I might counter with:

Brees for Rivers and Desean Jackson

or

Brees and Domenick Hixon for Rivers and Edwards.

Thoughts on that?

[LurkerDan]

Why do you want to make this trade? What is the purpose behind it, WRT to your team? I get that you want to upgrade at QB, but it's not that big of an upgrade. When I want to look to trade, it is either because a) I have a glaring weakness I need to fill, or b) I can upgrade at one position without hurting me because I have a lot of depth at the position I am losing a player from. In your case, that would mean I have a lot of depth at WR and could afford to trade one to get the upgrade at QB. To me, doesn't really seem like you fit either of those.

Of course, you may have different philosophies, but I haven't seen why you think this is a trade you want to do.

[Goat3001]

Originally Posted by LurkerDan

Of course, you may have different philosophies, but I haven't seen why you think this is a trade you want to do.

The trade was proposed to me, so I'm just considering it. After hearing opinions I'm leaning toward no right now but it's only fair to consider it and a counter trade as well. Plus I have Matt Schaub on my bench and only picked him up as trade bait. If he has a good start I can trade him to a team that's weak on QBs but has a good WR.

[LurkerDan]

Originally Posted by Goat3001

The trade was proposed to me, so I'm just considering it. After hearing opinions I'm leaning toward no right now but it's only fair to consider it and a counter trade as well. Plus I have Matt Schaub on my bench and only picked him up as trade bait. If he has a good start I can trade him to a team that's weak on QBs but has a good WR.

You don't have to consider a counter if what he has doesn't fit your priorities. How many teams in your league? Did you draft Schaub (your post makes it sound like he was a waiver wire pickup, which is crazy)?

If Schaub does well, you're right, you could trade him, possibly. My inclination would actually be to try to trade Rivers for a stud WR like Moss, Johnson or Fitz (maybe not Johnson because they're on the same team). I'd rather have Schaub and Moss as my QB-top WR combo than Rivers and Williams.

[Goat3001]

Originally Posted by LurkerDan

You don't have to consider a counter if what he has doesn't fit your priorities. How many teams in your league? Did you draft Schaub (your post makes it sound like he was a waiver wire pickup, which is crazy)?

If Schaub does well, you're right, you could trade him, possibly. My inclination would actually be to try to trade Rivers for a stud WR like Moss, Johnson or Fitz (maybe not Johnson because they're on the same team). I'd rather have Schaub and Moss as my QB-top WR combo than Rivers and Williams.

No, I drafted Schaub. 12 guys in our league.

I never really thought about trading Rivers for a stud. That does make sense. The guy in our league who has Moss is looking for an upgrade at QB.

[MartinBlank]

Who to start at RB (non-PPR league):

Westbrook @ CAR
Gore @ ARI
Portis @ NYG

I'm already starting Forte, but I'm stuck as to the other RB...Westbrook is my obvious choice, but I'm not sure about his knee.

[ChineseCheckers]

I hate westbrook...sure he puts up good numbers but all his injury concerns always makes him questionable on the injury lists and its just too much worrying about. Plus he's old now.

I'd go with Portis.

[LorenzoL]

Originally Posted by MartinBlank

Who to start at RB (non-PPR league):

Westbrook @ CAR
Gore @ ARI
Portis @ NYG

I'm already starting Forte, but I'm stuck as to the other RB...Westbrook is my obvious choice, but I'm not sure about his knee.

If Westbrook is healthy, he's a definite start. If he's not playing, I like Gore's matchup compared with Portis.

[LorenzoL]

So far the only player that has been confirmed to be sitting out is Pierre Thomas.

From ESPN:

Top Players We're Watching

Early Games (1 p.m. ET)

Bernard Berrian, WR, MIN
Matt Cassel, QB, KC
James Davis, RB, CLE
Knowshon Moreno, RB, Broncos
Kyle Orton, QB, DEN
Kevin Walter, WR, HOU

Late Games (4 p.m. ET)

Anquan Boldin, WR, ARI

James Davis was involved in a car accident on Saturday morning.

[davidh777]

Originally Posted by MartinBlank

Who to start at RB (non-PPR league):

Westbrook @ CAR
Gore @ ARI
Portis @ NYG

I'm already starting Forte, but I'm stuck as to the other RB...Westbrook is my obvious choice, but I'm not sure about his knee.

Nice problems!

Originally Posted by LorenzoL

James Davis was involved in a car accident on Saturday morning.

Hope he's OK; I took a flier on him

[MartinBlank]

ESPN's reporting Cassel's out.

[Sheff]

So I had McNabb as a 3rd round pick in my draft... ugh.

I'm left with Trent Edwards as my backup, or could pick up Flacco or some other lower tiered QB to replace him. Any ideas? Stick with Edwards?

[Red Dog]

Flacco had some big numbers yesterday, granted it was against the Chefs, so he wouldn't be a bad pickup. You could always pick up Kolb.

[davidh777]

I had McNabb and Flacco as my QBs. I think Flacco plays SD next week so not an easy foe, but probably worth a shot. I like him better than Edwards actually.

[ChineseCheckers]

Flacco is gonna become a great QB...this coming from a Steelers fan

[SethDLH]

Santana Moss more or less totally screwed my chances of winning. Now I need SD defense to outscore Gostkowski by 14. ugh.

[davidh777]

I'm in great shape with a six-point lead. I just need Rivers and TO to combine for less than that.

[U6C84]

It all ends today for me.

I have McFadden, Brady and Moss vs. Rivers, VJax, Gates, Kaeding and Lee Evans.

I have a 22 point lead, but I think it will come down to the wire.

Also in another league I am against LT and SD Defense, so I just have to root for the Raiders as a whole.

[MrX]

I'm down 7 with LT, Kaeding, and the SD defense going tonight. My opponent just has Vincent Jackson.

[U6C84]

In Yahoo leagues, do special team touchdowns (Kick/Punt return) not count for the defense?

I'm up against the Eagles defense and they only have 29 points. From my calculation they should have 35 points for 5 sacks (5 pts), 5 picks (10 pts), 2 fumble recoveries (4 pts), 1 defensive td (6 pts), 1 return td (6 pts) and allowing 10 points (4 pts)

I also see that Cleveland only has 3 points on the waiver wire and it didn't count the punt return TD that Cribbs got.

[MrX]

Nope, whoever returns it gets the points.

[fujishig]

I'm guessing that Brees deal is off the table now that Brees blew up and Braylon did absolutely nothing. Not that I think it's any better of a trade now.

[Mopower]

I have Anthony Gonzalez for my TE. Now that he's out for 4-6 weeks should I dump him? That's a third of the season and he probably won't do squat when he returns. Not sure who I can pick up in the mean time.

[davidh777]

Originally Posted by fujishig

I'm guessing that Brees deal is off the table now that Brees blew up and Braylon did absolutely nothing. Not that I think it's any better of a trade now.

Braylon did have that sweet fingertip TD catch that was called back. So his line could easily have been better.

[fujishig]

Originally Posted by Mopower

I have Anthony Gonzalez for my TE. Now that he's out for 4-6 weeks should I dump him? That's a third of the season and he probably won't do squat when he returns. Not sure who I can pick up in the mean time.

Tony Gonzalez is a TE and is not injured. Anthony Gonzalez is a WR. Do you guys start WRs for TEs or something?