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Old 11-11-06, 05:57 PM   #1
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College FB - The Wisconsin Badgers Deserve Better

They are now 10-1, their only loss coming to Michigan, and they only ranked 16 and not really in BCS contention.

They will be 11-1 after next week, and definitely deserve a BCS game.
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Old 11-11-06, 06:10 PM   #2
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Not until they schedule some good out of conference games. They fall into the easy schedule zone.
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Old 11-11-06, 06:31 PM   #3
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Nope. Sorry. They're the 3rd best team in their conference, and their 4 non-conference opponents have a total of 6 division I victories: Temple (1-9), Kent State, Air Force, Buffalo (2-8), Ohio, Eastern Michigan (1-8). I've bet money on Wisconsin for like 7 straight weeks, and they always do me right, but they've only beaten 2 teams with winning records against div I opponents (both 5-4), and they're 3rd place in their own conference. No.

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Old 11-11-06, 06:47 PM   #4
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They get to not play Ohio State this year (not their fault, of course) or they'd have two losses. Plus, they barely beat a weaker than usual Iowa team and a perennially bad Illinois team.
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Old 11-11-06, 07:22 PM   #5
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They actually cannot go to a BCS game. Only 2 teams from a conference can go to BCS games, and the winner of the Michigan/OSU game goes to the championship, and loser will go to the Rose Bowl (you surely wouldn't argue that Wisconsin is better than Michigan or Ohio State). So, there simply isn't any sense in arguing about their status in any way--they'll go to the Capital One bowl, and if they win they'll finish the season in the top 10.
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Old 11-11-06, 07:37 PM   #6
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No, they are straight-up garbage.
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Old 11-11-06, 07:47 PM   #7
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No, they are straight-up garbage.
Damn, you post a bunch of shit. What teams do you follow?
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Old 11-11-06, 08:15 PM   #8
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Nope. Sorry. They're the 3rd best team in their conference, and their 4 non-conference opponents have a total of 6 division I victories: Temple (1-9), Kent State, Air Force, Buffalo (2-8), Ohio, Eastern Michigan (1-8). I've bet money on Wisconsin for like 7 straight weeks, and they always do me right, but they've only beaten 2 teams with winning records against div I opponents (both 5-4), and they're 3rd place in their own conference. No.

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yep, what he said ^^^
beating 2 5-4 bcs conf teams doesnt make you worthy of a bcs bowl
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Old 11-12-06, 11:18 AM   #9
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And don't forget that if Penn State had any sort of offense at all they might have very well suffered a second loss last weekend (good thing for the Badgers that the Nittany Lions have an offense easily compared to the one of Sister Mary's school for girls).
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Old 11-13-06, 06:42 AM   #10
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If the Big 10 had a championship game, Wisconsin would likely win the Big 10 "West" and face the Ohio State-Michigan winner next week at the RCA Dome in Indianapolis. If they won the championship, they would earn an automatic bid into the BCS Championship Tourney that doesn't exist either.

Sorry Wisconsin, but you've been jobbed by a system that refuses to let teams settle matters on the field. Petition to change it and you'll be able to punch your own ticket to a title rather than be dependent on the whims of "expert" voters.
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Old 11-13-06, 08:24 AM   #11
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If the Big 10 had a championship game, Wisconsin would likely win the Big 10 "West" and face the Ohio State-Michigan winner next week at the RCA Dome in Indianapolis. If they won the championship, they would earn an automatic bid into the BCS Championship Tourney that doesn't exist either.
If Wisconsin won-out then beat the winner of the OSU/Michigan game, I bet they'd make it into the NC game even as the system stands now.
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Old 11-13-06, 09:15 AM   #12
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Sorry Wisconsin, but you've been jobbed by a system that refuses to let teams settle matters on the field. Petition to change it and you'll be able to punch your own ticket to a title rather than be dependent on the whims of "expert" voters.
Actually, Wisconsin can't blame the system for not letting teams settle matters on the field. Wisconsin LOST to Michigan ON THE FIELD, or did you miss that part?
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Old 11-13-06, 09:18 AM   #13
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Sorry Wisconsin, but you've been jobbed by a system that refuses to let teams settle matters on the field. Petition to change it and you'll be able to punch your own ticket to a title rather than be dependent on the whims of "expert" voters.
You're stretching your endless crusade against the BCS even further than usual here. Wisconsin isn't getting jobbed by anyone. And for that matter, they did "settle matters on the field" on September 23.

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Old 11-13-06, 09:35 AM   #14
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If the Big 10 had a championship game, Wisconsin would likely win the Big 10 "West" and face the Ohio State-Michigan winner next week at the RCA Dome in Indianapolis. If they won the championship, they would earn an automatic bid into the BCS Championship Tourney that doesn't exist either.

Sorry Wisconsin, but you've been jobbed by a system that refuses to let teams settle matters on the field. Petition to change it and you'll be able to punch your own ticket to a title rather than be dependent on the whims of "expert" voters.
Wisconsin benefitted from their Big-Ten schedule working out this year such that they didn't have to play Ohio State and thus are able to finish with only one loss instead of two.
Nice out-of-conference schedule for Wisconsin this year: Bowling Green, Western Illinois, San Diego State, and Buffalo coming up.
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Old 11-13-06, 11:02 AM   #15
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Nice out of conference schedule for Michigan too.

With the exception of ND, who isn't that good, Michigan had a bunch of cream puffs out of conference too. The ND game is only played b/c of history and the money these days. If Michigan could play Eastern Illinois and make the same money they would.

Is Wisconsin better than OSU or Michigan...no, but the 3rd best team in the Big Ten is easily better than what the Big East fans think should be going to the national championship game.

I hope sometime in my lifetime we get a playoff system.
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Old 11-13-06, 11:07 AM   #16
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Nice out of conference schedule for Michigan too.

With the exception of ND, who isn't that good, Michigan had a bunch of cream puffs out of conference too. The ND game is only played b/c of history and the money these days. If Michigan could play Eastern Illinois and make the same money they would.

Is Wisconsin better than OSU or Michigan...no, but the 3rd best team in the Big Ten is easily better than what the Big East fans think should be going to the national championship game.

I hope sometime in my lifetime we get a playoff system.
Personally, I think both Ohio State and Michigan should meet again for the national title regardless of who wins on Saturday. They are the only serious contenders who have remained undefeated thus far. The only reason one will lose a game is that they must play each other.

I also long for a playoff system.
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Old 11-13-06, 11:33 AM   #17
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Nice out of conference schedule for Michigan too.

With the exception of ND, who isn't that good, Michigan had a bunch of cream puffs out of conference too. The ND game is only played b/c of history and the money these days. If Michigan could play Eastern Illinois and make the same money they would.
Yeah, that's great. If wishes and buts ... Michigan goes on the road and owns a pretty solid Notre Dame team and then thumps Wisconsin the next week. How are they even in this argument?

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Old 11-13-06, 12:02 PM   #18
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Personally, I think both Ohio State and Michigan should meet again for the national title regardless of who wins on Saturday. They are the only serious contenders who have remained undefeated thus far. The only reason one will lose a game is that they must play each other.

I also long for a playoff system.
The biggest problem I have with an OSU/UM rematch is if they go 1-1. If OSU (or Michigan) wins both games, you have a clear winner. If they each win a game, then you still get an "official" winner, but the other team will still complain about winning the first game and the need for best 2-out-of-3.
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Old 11-13-06, 12:18 PM   #19
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Nice out of conference schedule for Michigan too.

With the exception of ND, who isn't that good, Michigan had a bunch of cream puffs out of conference too. The ND game is only played b/c of history and the money these days. If Michigan could play Eastern Illinois and make the same money they would.

Is Wisconsin better than OSU or Michigan...no, but the 3rd best team in the Big Ten is easily better than what the Big East fans think should be going to the national championship game.

I hope sometime in my lifetime we get a playoff system.
I would take a fully healty team from WVU, Rutgers and Louisville over Wisconsin.
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Old 11-13-06, 12:33 PM   #20
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I would take a fully healty team from WVU, Rutgers and Louisville over Wisconsin.
I'd go with you on 2 of the 3. Of course the one I wouldn't take is the only one that's still undefeated, so what do I know?
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Old 11-13-06, 12:51 PM   #21
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The biggest problem I have with an OSU/UM rematch is if they go 1-1. If OSU (or Michigan) wins both games, you have a clear winner. If they each win a game, then you still get an "official" winner, but the other team will still complain about winning the first game and the need for best 2-out-of-3.
No problem, the one that wins the National Title Game is #1. Lots of teams lose games or season series in the regular season to teams they beat in the World Series, Super Bowl, NBA Championship BB NCAA Tournament etc. The Title Game is the title game.
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Old 11-13-06, 01:02 PM   #22
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If Michigan wins on the road, a rematch is totally unnecessary. The only way a rematch is somewhat palatable is if OSU wins by a FG or less or in OT.

However, if a rematch maximizes the number of people bitching, that works for me.
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I would take a fully healty team from WVU, Rutgers and Louisville over Wisconsin.
I have to disagree but everyone has their opinions.

And to answer Das...ND really isn't in the discussion. I'm just pointing out that Michigan played cream puffs out of conference too. Sorry, but I dont' think ND is that special.

Wisconsin's SOS has kept them down this year. I don't disagree with that. I do think that the Top 3 in the Big Ten and SEC are better than what the Big East has to offer though.

Playing Auburn in a rematch at the Cap One Bowl scares me though. They are a bit bitter from last year.
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Old 11-13-06, 01:08 PM   #24
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wisconsin should have scheduled better OOC competition in a year that they knew well ahead of time that they didnt have to face OSU. too bad.
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What a brilliant deduction. You are a BCS voter aren't you?
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