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List has been updated through Super Bowl LI: New England Patriots over Atlanta Falcons 34-28 (OT) - February 5th, 2017

Seasons: City (Last Champion) [leagues]
111: San Diego ('63 Chargers (AFL)) [MLB] (includes 53 seasons as home to Chargers, 4 seasons as home to Clippers, and 6 seasons as home to Rockets)
103: Buffalo ('65 Bills (AFL)) [NHL, NFL]
91: Minneapolis ('91 Twins) [ALL]
85: Washington ('91 Redskins) [ALL]
75: Atlanta ('95 Braves) [NBA, MLB, NFL] (includes 11 seasons as home to Thrashers)
66: Canada (all cities) ('93 Blue Jays) [NHL, NBA, MLB]
59: Houston ('95 Rockets) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
59: Phoenix ('01 Diamondbacks) [ALL]
52: Cincinnati ('90 Reds) [MLB, NFL]
47: Charlotte [NBA, NFL]
41: Philadelphia ('06 Phillies) [ALL]
39: (*)Nashville [NHL, NFL]
39: Portland ('77 Trailblazers) [NBA]
38: (*) Tampa ('04 Lightning) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
37: Salt Lake City [NBA]
34: Detroit ('08 Red Wings) [ALL]
31: Sacramento [NBA]
27: Orlando [NBA]
25: San Jose [NHL]
23: Columbus [NHL] (includes 7 seasons as home to the Panhandles/Tigers)
22: Jacksonville [NFL]
22: Dallas ('11 Mavericks) [ALL]
19: Indianapolis ('06 Colts) [NBA, NFL]
19: New York ('11 Giants) [ALL]
18: (*)Wisconsin ('10 Packers) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
16: Memphis [NBA] (includes 1 season as home to the Tennessee Oilers)
16: (*)Miami ('13 Heat) [ALL]
15: St Louis ('11 Cardinals) [NHL, MLB] (includes 4 seasons as home to the Rams)
13: New Orleans ('09 Saints) [NBA, NFL]
10: Oklahoma City [NBA] (includes 2 seasons as home to the NO/OKC Hornets)
10: Raleigh ('06 Hurricanes) [NHL]
10: Baltimore ('12 Ravens) [MLB, NFL]
8: Los Angeles ('14 Kings) [ALL]
7: Seattle ('13 Seahawks) [MLB, NFL]
7: San Francisco ('14 Giants) [MLB, NFL]
5: Oakland ('15 Warriors) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
4: Denver ('15 Broncos) [ALL]
3: (*)Kansas City ('15 Royals) [MLB, NFL]
2: San Antonio ('14 Spurs) [NBA]
2: Pittsburgh ('16 Penguins) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
2: Cleveland ('16 Cavaliers) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
1: Chicago ('16 Cubs) [ALL]
0: Boston ('16 Patriots) [ALL]

(*) - City moved up at least one place in the standings in the most recent update.

Ties are broken in favor of cities that have never won a championship, then by cities that have had the most time elapse since their last championship.

In the above, I lump teams that are in the same market together. Thus, the Giants, Jets, Devils, Rangers, Islanders, Nets, Knicks, Yankees and Mets are all "New York". I consider the AFL to be an equivalent "major" league from 1960-65 since they had their own championship prior to playing the NFL champion in what would become the SuperBowl following the 1966 season. Also, I show AFL/NFL champions in the year the season was played, regardless of whether the championship occurred in December or January of the following year. Currently, the championships occur in this order: NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL; prior to the 2006, the NBA Finals occured prior to the Stanley Cup.

The list does NOT include cities who have had major league teams in the past but who are sports-less today (like Fort Wayne, Rochester and Omaha). The list also lumps all of Canada together and treats it as one "city".

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Old 06-22-08, 11:56 AM   #126
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Old 10-17-08, 06:59 AM   #127
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Uh oh! Don't look now, but the Phillies are in the World Series.

If Cleveland doesn't get off the dime and win a championship, Philadelphia WOULD have overtaken them in 23 years. If Philadelphia gets a championship, then nobody can out-futile Cleveland until Minneapolis does it 64 years from now (following the 2073/74 NHL season, I think.)
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Old 10-19-08, 10:55 PM   #128
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Hate to say it but they'll probably lose.
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Old 10-27-08, 10:34 AM   #129
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Uh oh! Don't look now, but the Phillies are in the World Series.

If Cleveland doesn't get off the dime and win a championship, Philadelphia WOULD have overtaken them in 23 years. If Philadelphia gets a championship, then nobody can out-futile Cleveland until Minneapolis does it 64 years from now (following the 2073/74 NHL season, I think.)
Couldn't New York do it in about 25 years? With 7 teams.... not saying it'll happen, but it could, mathematically.
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Old 10-27-08, 11:06 AM   #130
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Love this thread, and your work Ken.

But since you may already have the work handy, how about a line item listing the total number of sports seasons a city has had, along with the total number of championships.

That would be another way to measure futility.
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Old 10-27-08, 11:54 AM   #131
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Couldn't New York do it in about 25 years? With 7 teams.... not saying it'll happen, but it could, mathematically.
New York isn't getting double credit for their teams. With both the Mets and Yankees not winning the World Series this year, New York's total is just going up by 1 (one total baseball season without a championship) instead of 2 (two chances to win a championship).
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Old 10-27-08, 12:40 PM   #132
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Yup, Wally's got it surrounded. In this tabulation, each metro area gets a +1 for each sports season they participate in without winning a championship regardless of the number of franchises they have.

There were, fundamentally, two decisions I had to reach for this list: (a) how to group teams into markets, and (b) what to do with markets that had more than one team in the same sport. There's a lot of discussion on the first pages of this thread talking those decision through. I made the decisions one way, another person might have made them differently.

And to answer you, Trevor, I unfortunately do NOT have the necessary raw data on hand to regenerate the list using "total" sports seasons. However, as I have listed the last franchise in each market to have won a championship (and the year they did it), one might be able to reconstruct that on one's own.
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Old 10-27-08, 12:49 PM   #133
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And to answer you, Trevor, I unfortunately do NOT have the necessary raw data on hand to regenerate the list using "total" sports seasons. However, as I have listed the last franchise in each market to have won a championship (and the year they did it), one might be able to reconstruct that on one's own.
Thanks Ken, I just didn't want to re-invent the wheel (if I ever take on the task).

Was mainly just curious, and thought it would be a good ranking of a city/area's true futility.

For example, and this is just conjecture, even if Philly wins the series, the city still may have the fewest number of total championships per professional sports season. That list would be a nice complement to your list.
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Old 10-27-08, 12:58 PM   #134
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I see what you're after. Off the top of my head, the tough thing would be how to reconcile multi-francise cities like Los Angeles, Chicago, and (of course) New York. The Cubs and White Sox cannot BOTH win the World Series in any given year, so Chicago is guaranteed to have a "loser" even if those two teams were to win every World Series for the next 5 decades. You'd almost have to give a city like that a +1 for each season for EVERY team in their market, unless one of those teams won the title, in which case the entire market would get a +0.

Hmmm.... that might be hard.
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Old 10-27-08, 01:03 PM   #135
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^ Don't boggle your mind over it. Your list is great just the way it is and thanks for consistently updating it.

Also, it looks like the jinx is on for Philly.
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Cleveland's lead has increased to 25 seasons now that the Phillies have reduced Philadelphia's number to 0.

San Diego moves up to 2nd place.

Their lead over cities with 3 franchises is 36 (Buffalo).

Their lead over cities with 4 franchises is 64 (Minneappolis).
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Old 10-30-08, 10:01 AM   #137
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Philadelphia Phillies win the 2008 World Series, 4 games to 1, over the Tampa Bay Rays

124: Cleveland ('64 Browns) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
99: San Diego ('63 Chargers (AFL)) [MLB, NFL]
88: (*)Seattle ('79 Supersonics) [MLB, NFL]
87: Buffalo ('65 Bills (AFL)) [NHL, NFL]
75: Milwaukee ('71 Bucks) [NBA, MLB]
60: Minneapolis ('91 Twins) [ALL]
53: Washington ('91 Redskins) [ALL]
51: Oakland ('89 Athletics) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
49: New Orleans [NBA, NFL]
47: Atlanta ('95 Braves) [ALL]
46: Kansas City ('85 Royals) [MLB, NFL]
42: Canada (all cities) ('93 Blue Jays) [NHL, NBA, MLB]
36: Cincinnati ('90 Reds) [MLB, NFL]
35: Houston ('95 Rockets) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
35: Dallas ('00 Stars) [ALL]
31: Charlotte [NBA, NFL]
31: Portland ('77 Trail Blazers) [NBA]
29: Salt Lake City [NBA]
28: Denver ('01 Avalanche) [ALL]
27: San Francisco ('94 49ers) [MLB, NFL]
27: Phoenix ('01 Diamondbacks) [ALL]
23: Sacramento [NBA]
19: Nashville [NHL, NFL]
19: Orlando [NBA]
16: San Jose [NHL]
15: Baltimore ('00 Ravens) [MLB, NFL]
13: Jacksonville [NFL]
12: (*)Tampa ('04 Lightning) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
12: (*)Chicago ('05 White Sox) [ALL]
11: Green Bay ('96 Packers) [NFL]
9: (*)Miami ('06 Heat) [ALL]
8: Memphis [NBA] (includes 1 season as home to the Tennessee Oilers)
8: (*)Pittsburgh ('05 Steelers) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
7: Columbus [NHL]
6: St Louis ('06 Cardinals) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
5: Los Angeles ('07 Ducks) [NHL, NBA, MLB]
3: Indianapolis ('06 Colts) [NBA, NFL]
3: (*)New York ('07 Giants) [ALL]
2: Oklahoma City [NBA] (includes 2 seasons as home to the NO/OKC Hornets)
2: Raleigh ('06 Hurricanes) [NHL]
2: (*)Detroit ('08 Red Wings) [ALL]
1: San Antonio ('07 Spurs) [NBA]
1: Boston ('08 Celtics) [ALL]
0: Philadelphia ('08 Phillies) [ALL]

(*) - City moved up at least one place in the standings in the most recent update.

Ties are broken in favor of cities that have never won a championship, then by cities that have had the most time elapse since their last championship.
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Here's the same list, ranked in terms of number of years since a championship, regardless of the number of teams playing in a given market.

1963 San Diego
1964 Cleveland
1965 Buffalo
1967 *New Orleans
1971 Milwaukee
1977 Portland
1979 *Salt Lake City
1979 Seattle
1985 *Sacramento
1985 Kansas City
1989 *Charlotte
1989 *Orlando
1989 Oakland
1990 Cincinnati
1991 *San Jose
1991 Minneapolis
1991 Washington
1993 Canada (all cities)
1994 San Francisco
1995 Houston
1995 Atlanta
1995 *Jacksonville
1996 Green Bay
1997 *Memphis
1998 *Nashville
2000 Dallas
2000 *Columbus
2000 Baltimore
2001 Denver
2001 Phoenix
2004 Tampa
2005 Chicago
2005 Pittsburgh
2006 *Oklahoma City
2006 Miami
2006 Raliegh
2006 St Louis
2006 Indianapolis
2007 Los Angeles
2007 San Antonio
2007 New York
2008 Detroit
2008 Boston
2008 Philadelphia

* = City has zero championships. Date is based on first professional season played there.
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Old 10-30-08, 10:27 AM   #139
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If the cities with the longest drought (in years) win the next dozen championships, those champions would be:

'08 NFL = San Diego Chargers
'09 NHL = Buffalo Sabres
'09 NBA = Cleveland Cavaliers
'09 MLB = Milwaukee Brewers
'09 NFL = New Orleans Saints
'10 NHL = San Jose Sharks
'10 NBA = Portland Trailblazers
'10 MLB = Seattle Mariners
'10 NFL = Kansas City Chiefs
'11 NHL = Minnesota Wild
'11 NBA = Utah Jazz
'11 MLB = Oakland A's (new)

Same list, using seasons instead of years to define longest drought:

'08 NFL = Cleveland Browns
'09 NHL = Buffalo Sabres
'09 NBA = Milwaukee Bucks
'09 MLB = San Diego Padres
'09 NFL = Seattle Seahawks
'10 NHL = Minnesota Wild
'10 NBA = Washington Wizards
'10 MLB = Oakland A's
'10 NFL = New Orleans Saints
'11 NHL = Atlanta Thrashers
'11 NBA = Toronto Raptors
'11 MLB = Kansas City Royals (new)

Philadelphia dropping off both lists caused a pretty big shake-up.
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Old 10-30-08, 10:30 AM   #140
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I'm giving consideration to crediting Oklahoma City for the 2005/06 and 2006/07 NBA seasons. Here's the pertinent Wikipedia citation:
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Due to the catastrophic devastation brought by Hurricane Katrina upon the communities of southeastern Louisiana, the Hornets franchise temporarily relocated their base of operations to Oklahoma City in 2005-06 and 2006-07. During this time, the franchise was known as the New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets. In these two seasons, the vast majority of home games were played at the Ford Center in Oklahoma City, while a few remained at New Orleans Arena. Their practice facility while in Oklahoma City was the Sawyer Center on the campus of Southern Nazarene University (SNU). and the team held its 2006 training camp at their New Orleans practice facility, the Alario Center, in Westwego, Louisiana.

For the 2005-06 season, the team played 36 games in Oklahoma City, with one game taking place at the Lloyd Noble Center on the campus of the University of Oklahoma due to a conflict at the Ford Center; three in New Orleans; and one at the Pete Maravich Assembly Center on the campus of LSU. The intent had been to play 5 games in all at Baton Rouge, but strong progress made on restoring the New Orleans Arena made the return to New Orleans a better option.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Hornets

If I do, then New Orleans *and* OKC will both get credit for these seasons, which invites me to credit Omaha for the years that the Kings split their games between there and Kansas City. I'm thinking that a 50% rule would be appropriate here - if a team plays 50% of it's home games in a second city, that city gets credit for a season in addition to the team's native home city. Anyone have any problems with this?
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Of the 41 regular season "home" dates, the Hornets in 2005/06 played 38 of them in Oklahoma City and 35 of them in 2006/07. That's all but 8 games in 2 seasons.

Oklahoma City will be getting credit for these seasons. I'll scroll up and make the necessary changes....
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0: Philadelphia ('08 Phillies) [ALL]

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With Philadelphia finally getting around to winning a title, the city of Cleveland further cements their claim as the most futile sports city. They have opened a 25 season lead on the next closest town (San Diego), and cannot now be mathematially overtaken by anyone until the 2072/73 NHL season - and then only if (a) Minneapolis refuses to win any championships during the next 253 sports seasons, and (b) the Wild win the Stanley cup in 2073. The crown is Cleveland's to lose - I don't think it likely that anyone can realistically take it from them at this point.
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With Philadelphia finally getting around to winning a title, the city of Cleveland further cements their claim as the most futile sports city. They have opened a 25 season lead on the next closest town (San Diego), and cannot now be mathematially overtaken by anyone until the 2072/73 NHL season - and then only if (a) Minneapolis refuses to win any championships during the next 253 sports seasons, and (b) the Wild win the Stanley cup in 2073. The crown is Cleveland's to lose - I don't think it likely that anyone can realistically take it from them at this point.
That's depressing.
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personal rambling

I've lived in the Washington DC area nearly all my life, but bleed Minnesota blood. Sad and surprised to see that it has now been 17 years since either of "my" markets has won anything. The 80s and 90s were pretty good for me, with the Redskins and Twins both winning multiple championships. I got used to winning, and had no idea it has been that long.

Recent years have had several near wins, and a couple NCAA championships, so perhaps that has sated me and kept the misery away.

Anyone else with multiple markets they root for that has gone longer?
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I've lived in the Washington DC area nearly all my life, but bleed Minnesota blood. Sad and surprised to see that it has now been 17 years since either of "my" markets has won anything. The 80s and 90s were pretty good for me, with the Redskins and Twins both winning multiple championships. I got used to winning, and had no idea it has been that long.

Recent years have had several near wins, and a couple NCAA championships, so perhaps that has sated me and kept the misery away.

Anyone else with multiple markets they root for that has gone longer?
If we add in NCAA, Minnesota gets even more sad (unless you count hockey I suppose).

As the local radio host is want to say, we are "Loserville USA." (no wonder Dubay was driven to crack)
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Re: Sports Futility

Pittsburgh wins Super Bowl XLIII:

125: Cleveland ('64 Browns) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
100: San Diego ('63 Chargers (AFL)) [MLB, NFL]
89: Seattle ('79 Supersonics) [MLB, NFL]
88: Buffalo ('65 Bills (AFL)) [NHL, NFL]
75: Milwaukee ('71 Bucks) [NBA, MLB]
61: Minneapolis ('91 Twins) [ALL]
54: Washington ('91 Redskins) [ALL]
52: Oakland ('89 Athletics) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
50: New Orleans [NBA, NFL]
48: Atlanta ('95 Braves) [ALL]
47: Kansas City ('85 Royals) [MLB, NFL]
42: Canada (all cities) ('93 Blue Jays) [NHL, NBA, MLB]
37: Cincinnati ('90 Reds) [MLB, NFL]
36: Houston ('95 Rockets) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
36: Dallas ('00 Stars) [ALL]
32: Charlotte [NBA, NFL]
31: Portland ('77 Trail Blazers) [NBA]
29: Salt Lake City [NBA]
29: Denver ('01 Avalanche) [ALL]
28: San Francisco ('94 49ers) [MLB, NFL]
28: Phoenix ('01 Diamondbacks) [ALL]
23: Sacramento [NBA]
20: Nashville [NHL, NFL]
19: Orlando [NBA]
16: San Jose [NHL]
16: Baltimore ('00 Ravens) [MLB, NFL]
14: Jacksonville [NFL]
13: Tampa ('04 Lightning) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
13: Chicago ('05 White Sox) [ALL]
12: Green Bay ('96 Packers) [NFL]
10: Miami ('06 Heat) [ALL]
8: Memphis [NBA] (includes 1 season as home to the Tennessee Oilers)
7: (*)Columbus [NHL]
7: (*)St Louis ('06 Cardinals) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
5: (*)Los Angeles ('07 Ducks) [NHL, NBA, MLB]
4: (*)Indianapolis ('06 Colts) [NBA, NFL]
4: (*)New York ('07 Giants) [ALL]
3: (*)Detroit ('08 Red Wings) [ALL]
2: Oklahoma City [NBA] (includes 2 seasons as home to the NO/OKC Hornets)
2: Raleigh ('06 Hurricanes) [NHL]
2: (*)Boston ('08 Celtics) [ALL]
1: San Antonio ('07 Spurs) [NBA]
1: (*)Philadelphia ('08 Phillies) [ALL]
0: Pittsburgh ('08 Steelers) [NHL, MLB, NFL]

(*) - City moved up at least one place in the standings in the most recent update.

Ties are broken in favor of cities that have never won a championship, then by cities that have had the most time elapse since their last championship.
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Old 02-23-09, 11:02 AM   #149
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Re: Sports Futility

Here's the same list, ranked in terms of number of years since a championship, regardless of the number of teams playing in a given market.

1963 San Diego
1964 Cleveland
1965 Buffalo
1967 *New Orleans
1971 Milwaukee
1977 Portland
1979 *Salt Lake City
1979 Seattle
1985 *Sacramento
1985 Kansas City
1989 *Charlotte
1989 *Orlando
1989 Oakland
1990 Cincinnati
1991 *San Jose
1991 Minneapolis
1991 Washington
1993 Canada (all cities)
1994 San Francisco
1995 Houston
1995 Atlanta
1995 *Jacksonville
1996 Green Bay
1997 *Memphis
1998 *Nashville
2000 Dallas
2000 *Columbus
2000 Baltimore
2001 Denver
2001 Phoenix
2004 Tampa
2005 Chicago
2006 *Oklahoma City
2006 Miami
2006 Raliegh
2006 St Louis
2006 Indianapolis
2007 Los Angeles
2007 San Antonio
2007 New York
2008 Detroit
2008 Boston
2008 Philadelphia
2008 Pittsburgh

* = City has zero championships. Date is based on first professional season played there.
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Old 02-23-09, 11:14 AM   #150
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Re: Sports Futility

If the cities with the longest drought (in years) win the next dozen championships, those champions would be:

'09 NHL = Buffalo Sabres
'09 NBA = Cleveland Cavaliers
'09 MLB = San Diego Padres
'09 NFL = New Orleans Saints
'10 NHL = San Jose Sharks
'10 NBA = Milwakuee Bucks
'10 MLB = Seattle Mariners
'10 NFL = Kansas City Chiefs
'11 NHL = Minnesota Wild
'11 NBA = Portland Trailblazers
'11 MLB = Oakland A's
'11 NFL = Carolina Panthers (new)
(dropped off = Utah Jazz)

Same list, using seasons instead of years to define longest drought:

'09 NHL = Buffalo Sabres
'09 NBA = Cleveland Cavaliers
'09 MLB = San Diego Padres
'09 NFL = Seattle Seahawks
'10 NHL = Minnesota Wild
'10 NBA = Milwaukee Bucks
'10 MLB = Washington Nationals
'10 NFL = Oakland Raiders
'11 NHL = Atlanta Thrashers
'11 NBA = New Orleans Hornets
'11 MLB = Kansas City Royals
'11 NFL = Cincinnati Bengals (new)
(dropped off = Toronto Raptors)
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