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List has been updated through Stanley Cup Finals 2017 - Pittsburgh Penguins over the Nashville Predators, 4 games to 2 - June 2017

Seasons: City (Last Champion) [leagues]
111: San Diego ('63 Chargers (AFL)) [MLB] (includes 53 seasons as home to Chargers, 4 seasons as home to Clippers, and 6 seasons as home to Rockets)
104: Buffalo ('65 Bills (AFL)) [NHL, NFL]
92: Minneapolis ('91 Twins) [ALL]
86: Washington ('91 Redskins) [ALL]
75: Atlanta ('95 Braves) [NBA, MLB, NFL] (includes 11 seasons as home to Thrashers)
67: Canada (all cities) ('93 Blue Jays) [NHL, NBA, MLB]
60: (*)Phoenix ('01 Diamondbacks) [ALL]
59: Houston ('95 Rockets) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
52: Cincinnati ('90 Reds) [MLB, NFL]
47: Charlotte [NBA, NFL]
42: Philadelphia ('06 Phillies) [ALL]
40: Nashville [NHL, NFL]
39: Portland ('77 Trailblazers) [NBA]
39: Tampa ('04 Lightning) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
37: Salt Lake City [NBA]
35: Detroit ('08 Red Wings) [ALL]
31: Sacramento [NBA]
27: Orlando [NBA]
26: San Jose [NHL]
24: Columbus [NHL] (includes 7 seasons as home to the Panhandles/Tigers)
23: (*)Dallas ('11 Mavericks) [ALL]
22: Jacksonville [NFL]
20: (*)New York ('11 Giants) [ALL]
19: Indianapolis ('06 Colts) [NBA, NFL]
18: Wisconsin ('10 Packers) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
17: (*)Miami ('13 Heat) [ALL]
16: Memphis [NBA] (includes 1 season as home to the Tennessee Oilers)
16: St Louis ('11 Cardinals) [NHL, MLB] (includes 4 seasons as home to the Rams)
13: New Orleans ('09 Saints) [NBA, NFL]
11: (*)Raleigh ('06 Hurricanes) [NHL]
10: Oklahoma City [NBA] (includes 2 seasons as home to the NO/OKC Hornets)
10: Baltimore ('12 Ravens) [MLB, NFL]
9: Los Angeles ('14 Kings) [ALL]
7: Seattle ('13 Seahawks) [MLB, NFL]
7: San Francisco ('14 Giants) [MLB, NFL]
5: Oakland ('15 Warriors) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
5: Denver ('15 Broncos) [ALL]
3: Kansas City ('15 Royals) [MLB, NFL]
2: San Antonio ('14 Spurs) [NBA]
2: (*)Cleveland ('16 Cavaliers) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
2: (*)Chicago ('16 Cubs) [ALL]
1: (*)Boston ('16 Patriots) [ALL]
0: Pittsburgh ('17 Penguins) [NHL, MLB, NFL]

(*) - City moved up at least one place in the standings in the most recent update.

Ties are broken in favor of cities that have never won a championship, then by cities that have had the most time elapse since their last championship.

In the above, I lump teams that are in the same market together. Thus, the Giants, Jets, Devils, Rangers, Islanders, Nets, Knicks, Yankees and Mets are all "New York". I consider the AFL to be an equivalent "major" league from 1960-65 since they had their own championship prior to playing the NFL champion in what would become the SuperBowl following the 1966 season. Also, I show AFL/NFL champions in the year the season was played, regardless of whether the championship occurred in December or January of the following year. Currently, the championships occur in this order: NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL; prior to the 2006, the NBA Finals occured prior to the Stanley Cup.

The list does NOT include cities who have had major league teams in the past but who are sports-less today (like Fort Wayne, Rochester and Omaha). The list also lumps all of Canada together and treats it as one "city".

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Old 02-05-08, 10:30 AM   #101
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San Diego, Cleveland and Buffalo, I feel for you guys.
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San Diego, Cleveland and Buffalo, I feel for you guys.
I used to feel for San Diego. Not so much anymore.
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100 Seasons without a title for Philadelphia

FanNation blog on the same topic.

As bad as that is, Cleveland still takes the crown. No titles since 1964 and numerous heartbreaks since then:

Red Right 88
The Drive
The Drive II
The Catch
The Fumble
The Shot
The Sweep
The Comeback by the Red Sox in '07
Jose Mesa in Game 7 in '97
David Justice in Game 6 in '95
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Old 05-19-08, 02:09 PM   #105
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Always great to see the Philly futility extended.
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Old 05-19-08, 03:19 PM   #106
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Too bad the NHL and NBA appear to not help any long suffering cities this year unless New Orleans pulls out a title.
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Old 05-19-08, 06:25 PM   #107
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With the Sixers and Flyers gone, Philly joins the Century Club. (The Cavs just renewed Cleveland's membership yesterday.)
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Old 05-19-08, 10:04 PM   #108
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Always great to see the Philly futility extended.
It's well deserved, isn't it? The asshole fans in that town would burn half the fucking thing down if they were to win something somehow...
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Detroit's number is reset to 0! Woohoo!

Fans in Cleveland have to be thankful that they don't have a NHL team.
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Old 06-05-08, 06:50 AM   #110
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Seasons: City (Last Champion) [leagues]
122: Cleveland ('64 Browns) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
99: (*)Philadelphia ('83 76ers) [ALL]
98: San Diego ('63 Chargers (AFL)) [MLB, NFL]
87: Buffalo ('65 Bills (AFL)) [NHL, NFL]
86: Seattle ('79 Supersonics) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
73: Milwaukee ('71 Bucks) [NBA, MLB]
58: Minneapolis ('91 Twins) [ALL]
51: Washington ('91 Redskins) [ALL]
49: Oakland ('89 Athletics) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
48: New Orleans [NBA, NFL]
45: Kansas City ('85 Royals) [MLB, NFL]
45: Atlanta ('95 Braves) [ALL]
40: Canada (all cities) ('93 Blue Jays) [NHL, NBA, MLB]
35: Cincinnati ('90 Reds) [MLB, NFL]
33: Houston ('95 Rockets) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
33: Dallas ('00 Stars) [ALL]
30: Charlotte [NBA, NFL]
30: Portland ('77 Trail Blazers) [NBA]
28: Salt Lake City [NBA]
26: San Francisco ('94 49ers) [MLB, NFL]
26: Denver ('01 Avalanche) [ALL]
25: Phoenix ('01 Diamondbacks) [ALL]
22: Sacramento [NBA]
19: (*)Nashville [NHL, NFL]
18: Orlando [NBA]
16: San Jose [NHL]
14: Baltimore ('00 Ravens) [MLB, NFL]
13: Jacksonville [NFL]
11: Green Bay ('96 Packers) [NFL]
11: Tampa ('04 Lightning) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
10: Chicago ('05 White Sox) [ALL]
7: Memphis [NBA] (includes 1 season as home to the Tennessee Oilers)
7: Columbus [NHL]
7: Pittsburgh ('05 Steelers) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
7: Miami ('06 Heat) [ALL]
5: St Louis ('06 Cardinals) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
3: Los Angeles ('07 Ducks) [NHL, NBA, MLB]
2: (*)Raleigh ('06 Hurricanes) [NHL]
2: Indianapolis ('06 Colts) [NBA, NFL]
2: Boston ('07 Red Sox) [ALL]
1: (*)New York ('07 Giants) [ALL]
0: San Antonio ('07 Spurs) [NBA]
0: Detroit ('08 Red Wings) [ALL]

(*) - City moved up at least one place in the standings in the most recent update.

Ties are broken in favor of cities that have never won a championship, then by cities that have had the most time elapse since their last championship.
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Here's the same list, ranked in terms of number of years since a championship, regardless of the number of teams playing in a given market.

1963 San Diego
1964 Cleveland
1965 Buffalo
1967 *New Orleans
1971 Milwaukee
1977 Portland
1979 *Salt Lake City
1979 Seattle
1983 Philadelphia
1985 *Sacramento
1985 Kansas City
1989 *Charlotte
1989 *Orlando
1989 Oakland
1990 Cincinnati
1991 *San Jose
1991 Minneapolis
1991 Washington
1993 Canada (all cities)
1994 San Francisco
1995 Houston
1995 Atlanta
1995 *Jacksonville
1996 Green Bay
1997 *Memphis
1998 *Nashville
2000 Dallas
2000 *Columbus
2000 Baltimore
2001 Denver
2001 Phoenix
2004 Tampa
2005 Chicago
2005 Pittsburgh
2006 Miami
2006 Raliegh
2006 St Louis
2006 Indianapolis
2007 Los Angeles
2007 San Antonio
2007 Boston
2007 New York
2008 Detroit

* = City has zero championships. Date is based on first professional season played there.
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If the cities with the longest drought (in years) win the next dozen championships, those champions would be:

'08 NBA = Los Angeles Lakers
'08 MLB = San Diego Padres
'08 NFL = Cleveland Browns
'09 NHL = Buffalo Sabres
'09 NBA = New Orleans Hornets
'09 MLB = Milwaukee Brewers
'09 NFL = Seattle Seahawks
'10 NHL = Philadelphia Flyers
'10 NBA = Portland Trailblazers
'10 MLB = Kansas City Royals
'10 NFL = Oakland Raiders
'11 NHL = San Jose Sharks

Same list, using seasons instead of years to define longest drought:

'08 NBA = Los Angeles Lakers
'08 MLB = Cleveland Indians
'08 NFL = Philadelphia Eagles
'09 NHL = Buffalo Sabres
'09 NBA = Seattle Supersonics
'09 MLB = San Diego Padres
'09 NFL = Minnesota Vikings
'10 NHL = Washington Capitols
'10 NBA = Milwaukee Bucks
'10 MLB = Oakland A's
'10 NFL = New Orleans Saints
'11 NHL = Atlanta Thrashers
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Old 06-08-08, 06:11 PM   #113
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As a heads' up (and more, as a note to myself), following the 2008 NBA finals I plan to add a few lines of data for "defunct" pro cities. These are cities who at one time used to have a pro team but have none now. The intent is to have a starting point for them should they land a pro team at some point in the future, and to address the only glaring hole in the data that I am currently aware of.

Now when I do this, there might be some changes to the current list. For example, Columbus (OH) is 0-for-7 in the NHL, but they used to be home to two NFL franchises back in the 1920's: the Panhandles and Tigers (collectively, 1920-1926, 7 seasons). This will result in Columbus' count doubling to 14.

Of course, I don't expect any of that data to change once it's been compiled, so please don't expect updates.
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Old 06-08-08, 09:59 PM   #114
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100 Seasons without a title for Philadelphia

FanNation blog on the same topic.

As bad as that is, Cleveland still takes the crown. No titles since 1964 and numerous heartbreaks since then:

Red Right 88
The Drive
The Drive II
The Catch
The Fumble
The Shot
The Sweep
The Comeback by the Red Sox in '07
Jose Mesa in Game 7 in '97
David Justice in Game 6 in '95

On top of that, they end up losing their NFL team to Baltimore, and then 2 years later that team wins a championship...
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Old 06-09-08, 01:08 PM   #115
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Old 06-09-08, 01:28 PM   #116
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Detroit's number is reset to 0! Woohoo!

Fans in Cleveland have to be thankful that they don't have a NHL team.
Columbus that's close enough to Cleveland
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On top of that, they end up losing their NFL team to Baltimore, and then 2 years later that team wins a championship...
How the hell did I forget about that?
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Old 06-18-08, 07:47 AM   #118
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Celtics defeat Lakers 4 games to 2 to win the 2008 NBA Finals

Seasons: City (Last Champion) [leagues]
123: Cleveland ('64 Browns) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
100: Philadelphia ('83 76ers) [ALL]
98: San Diego ('63 Chargers (AFL)) [MLB, NFL]
87: Buffalo ('65 Bills (AFL)) [NHL, NFL]
87: Seattle ('79 Supersonics) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
74: Milwaukee ('71 Bucks) [NBA, MLB]
59: Minneapolis ('91 Twins) [ALL]
52: Washington ('91 Redskins) [ALL]
50: Oakland ('89 Athletics) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
49: New Orleans [NBA, NFL]
46: (*)Atlanta ('95 Braves) [ALL]
45: Kansas City ('85 Royals) [MLB, NFL]
41: Canada (all cities) ('93 Blue Jays) [NHL, NBA, MLB]
35: Cincinnati ('90 Reds) [MLB, NFL]
34: Houston ('95 Rockets) [NBA, MLB, NFL]
34: Dallas ('00 Stars) [ALL]
31: Charlotte [NBA, NFL]
31: Portland ('77 Trail Blazers) [NBA]
29: Salt Lake City [NBA]
27: (*)Denver ('01 Avalanche) [ALL]
26: San Francisco ('94 49ers) [MLB, NFL]
26: Phoenix ('01 Diamondbacks) [ALL]
23: Sacramento [NBA]
19: Nashville [NHL, NFL]
19: Orlando [NBA]
16: San Jose [NHL]
14: Baltimore ('00 Ravens) [MLB, NFL]
13: Jacksonville [NFL]
11: Green Bay ('96 Packers) [NFL]
11: Tampa ('04 Lightning) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
11: Chicago ('05 White Sox) [ALL]
8: Memphis [NBA] (includes 1 season as home to the Tennessee Oilers)
8: (*)Miami ('06 Heat) [ALL]
7: Columbus [NHL]
7: Pittsburgh ('05 Steelers) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
5: St Louis ('06 Cardinals) [NHL, MLB, NFL]
4: Los Angeles ('07 Ducks) [NHL, NBA, MLB]
3: (*)Indianapolis ('06 Colts) [NBA, NFL]
2: Raleigh ('06 Hurricanes) [NHL]
2: New York ('07 Giants) [ALL]
1: San Antonio ('07 Spurs) [NBA]
1: Detroit ('08 Red Wings) [ALL]
0: Boston ('08 Celtics) [ALL]

(*) - City moved up at least one place in the standings in the most recent update.
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Here's the same list, ranked in terms of number of years since a championship, regardless of the number of teams playing in a given market.

1963 San Diego
1964 Cleveland
1965 Buffalo
1967 *New Orleans
1971 Milwaukee
1977 Portland
1979 *Salt Lake City
1979 Seattle
1983 Philadelphia
1985 *Sacramento
1985 Kansas City
1989 *Charlotte
1989 *Orlando
1989 Oakland
1990 Cincinnati
1991 *San Jose
1991 Minneapolis
1991 Washington
1993 Canada (all cities)
1994 San Francisco
1995 Houston
1995 Atlanta
1995 *Jacksonville
1996 Green Bay
1997 *Memphis
1998 *Nashville
2000 Dallas
2000 *Columbus
2000 Baltimore
2001 Denver
2001 Phoenix
2004 Tampa
2005 Chicago
2005 Pittsburgh
2006 Miami
2006 Raliegh
2006 St Louis
2006 Indianapolis
2007 Los Angeles
2007 San Antonio
2007 New York
2008 Detroit
2008 Boston

* = City has zero championships. Date is based on first professional season played there.
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Being from the Philly area, our fanbase is desperate for a championship, and to see our neighbors to the north in the New England area get 2 rings for the RedSox, 3 rings for the Pats, and now the Celts, we are really jealous!

I will say that the reason Philly hasn't won a Championship in 25 years is that our 4 teams rarely willl get that player at the trade deadline or in free agency to get us over the hump. We got Moses in '82 to bring us a ring for the 76ers in '83, and we got Pete Rose in '79 to bring us a ring in 1980.

The Eagles refuse to go after a WR, the Flyers have never gone after that #1 goalie, the 76ers haven't had that big man since they traded the #1 pick in Brad Daugherty in 1986, and the Phillies won't pay for Free Agent pitchers, and this has all led to 100 seasons of 0 rings.
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If the cities with the longest drought (in years) win the next dozen championships, those champions would be:

'08 MLB = San Diego Padres
'08 NFL = Cleveland Browns
'09 NHL = Buffalo Sabres
'09 NBA = New Orleans Hornets
'09 MLB = Milwaukee Brewers
'09 NFL = Seattle Seahawks
'10 NHL = Philadelphia Flyers
'10 NBA = Portland Trailblazers
'10 MLB = Kansas City Royals
'10 NFL = Carolina Panthers (was: Oakland Raiders)
'11 NHL = San Jose Sharks
'11 NBA = Utah Jazz (new)

Same list, using seasons instead of years to define longest drought:

'08 MLB = Cleveland Indians
'08 NFL = Philadelphia Eagles
'09 NHL = Buffalo Sabres
'09 NBA = Seattle Supersonics
'09 MLB = San Diego Padres
'09 NFL = Minnesota Vikings
'10 NHL = Washington Capitols
'10 NBA = Milwaukee Bucks
'10 MLB = Oakland A's
'10 NFL = New Orleans Saints
'11 NHL = Atlanta Thrashers
'11 NBA = Toronto Raptors (new)
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If the cities with the longest drought (in years) win the next dozen championships, those champions would be:

'08 NFL = Cleveland Browns

Same list, using seasons instead of years to define longest drought:

'08 MLB = Cleveland Indians
If that happens, I think the city of Cleveland will go up in flames!
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If that happens, I think the city of Cleveland will go up in flames!
At least the river will.
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Boston fans are just very lucky to have good owners. The krafts changed the patriots completely around. They were one of the biggest jokes in the leagues until the Kraft family took over.
Now the sox have John Henry and a great management group running the red sox. The red sox were not cursed for86 years, they had owners that didnt care for 86 years, now we have an owner that wants to win a couple championships per decade. Theo's contract is up this year and who knows how long John Henry wants to own the team for. He may look at it as owning one of the premiere teams in the league.
Now Wyc Grousbeck the primary owner of the C's has come around and realized that the rabid fanbase needs a winner in basketball, if he goes over the salary cap a little and puts a quality product on the floor, then there will be alot of other large company sponsors and merchandise sales go through the roof that will more than offset any additional expenses.
Boston has the highest ticket prices and costs to go to a game in the country. The #1 sports radio show, and a newspaper/media group thats as annoying as new york's.
Being a Boston fan, this celtics championship was the biggest win.
This celtics team, I had the highest hopes and expectations for since the 03 and 04 sox teams. This was bigger than any patriots championship. The first SB in 2001 was such a surprise, they were such big underdogs and had got crushed in previus superbowls. When they won, it was a shock, then they repeated and have had a few great years, they could stink for 5 years and noone would really care. 18-1 hurt a little bit as it was right there and the history factor, but patriots fans' bellies are already full. The 07 sox championship, my championship hats and shirts havent even been worn in when that one came. But the celtics, I wasnt old enough to stay up that late to watch those games nor was I really into basketball until 1990 or so.
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