Will USC threepeat?

twikoff · 08-10-05, 10:34 AM

no ncaa football team has ever accomplished a threepeat.. but USC is a strong favorite to do just that this year

although the coaching changes.. most noteably the loss of norm chow.. could be their downfall

not to mention over half of the defense will be new starters

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2005 Schedule
DATE OPPONENT RESULT/TIME
09/03 at Hawaii 11:59 PM
09/17 Arkansas 10:15 PM
09/24 at Oregon 7:00 PM
10/01 at #18 Arizona St TBD
10/08 Arizona TBD
10/15 at N Dame 3:30 PM
10/22 at Washington 3:30 PM
10/29 Wash St TBD
11/05 Stanford TBD
11/12 at #20 California TBD
11/19 Fresno St TBD
12/03 UCLA 4:30 PM

fujishig · 08-10-05, 02:55 PM

Being an alum, I hope so, but I'm thinking they'll lose at least a game or two. Arkansas, though unranked, will be the first test, and they're on the road against two ranked teams and ND. Cal especially will be tough, and they've been the hardest game on the schedule for a few years now. Not to mention the UCLA game is a toss up no matter what the rankings are (last year, a bad call cost UCLA the game).

I'm interested to see what happens to Leinart's stock if they don't repeat, or if Bush takes the spotlight away from him. Luckily, Bush gets a lot of his yards through passing, so it should be much like this year.

Red Dog · 08-10-05, 05:58 PM

I was debating throwing a few bucks on Under 11 (reg season) Wins for them.

FantasticVSDoom · 08-10-05, 07:47 PM

I think they will lose one game this year...I think at ND will be an upset waiting to happen, but I think someone will sneak up on them and drop a loss on them. I think they still will probably win the National Championship besides that.

Y2K Falcon · 08-10-05, 09:06 PM

Is it some sort of BCS protest that caused you to not make this a poll?

twikoff · 08-10-05, 09:08 PM

nope.. I'm sick and not thinking straight (yea, too easy)
the last 4 or 5 threads that I meant to create a poll.. I forgot until it was too late

Josh H · 08-10-05, 09:44 PM

Too early to tell.

There certainly the favorite on paer, but still they lost a lot and there will be a lot of parity this season

WallyOPD · 08-11-05, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fujishig

Cal especially will be tough, and they've been the hardest game on the schedule for a few years now.

Cal's caught them early in the year the past couple seasons, USC will probably be rolling by the time they meet them this year. Plus didn't Cal lose almost all their defensive playmakers from last season?

Quake1028 · 08-11-05, 03:55 AM

No. Chance. In. Hell.

kenbuzz · 08-11-05, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by twikoff

no ncaa football team has ever accomplished a threepeat.. but USC is a strong favorite to do just that this year

What are you talking about? There is no "Championship" in Division one -- just popularity contests.

Jericho · 08-11-05, 08:04 AM

I don't acknowledge there 2003 title, so I guess not. But they can repeat

Jericho · 08-11-05, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kenbuzz

What are you talking about? There is no "Championship" in Division one -- just popularity contests.

Hey, tell that to Division-IAA teams!

fujishig · 08-11-05, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WallyOPD

Cal's caught them early in the year the past couple seasons, USC will probably be rolling by the time they meet them this year. Plus didn't Cal lose almost all their defensive playmakers from last season?

Plus they lost their QB and RB. And it is true that Carrol's record late in the season is amazing. But I just can't underestimate them...

Not to mention, in my scientific study (season mode of NCAA 2006), they were ranked #2 by the time I (being USC) played them... so statistically, at least, they have some talent.

Aphex Twin · 08-11-05, 03:32 PM

They're going to lose to UCLA THIS YEAR!

Trelach24 · 08-12-05, 04:00 AM

I sure hope so. I love watching dynasties.

Cusm · 08-12-05, 09:26 AM

First they have to repeat.

CRM114 · 08-12-05, 09:45 AM

Only if they get by Penn State.

clemente · 08-12-05, 05:51 PM

I hope not...but if there the most vunearable since they've been in a few years (since they lost Palmer, Fargas, and McCullough in the same season)

No Chow....a few games early last season were won solely by Chow's ability to use Reggie Bush. It's pretty certain that the two new young offensive coordinators are not his equal (but Bush and Leinart are more seasoned....tradeoff)
Loss of veteran defensive starters...Tatapu, Patterson and Cody has been stalwarts for a few seasons and they're playing on Sunday's now. I expect guys like Rucker and Sartz to step up as D-leaders and Carroll has always been good about getting those young guys in there so their not completely unaware of the speed of the game. However, they won't be anywhere near as good.
Punting...Tom Malone is back. Tom Malone for Heisman!

The schedule isn't killer and there aren't any super powerhouse this year (or at least their don't appear to be), so a 1 loss USC team still has a chance to play in Pasadena.

But I paid a lot of money for my USC degree, so maybe I'm just biased.

Dabaomb · 08-13-05, 01:06 AM

I think that they'll repeat. The Pac-10 is an easy division. Cal is definitely weaker with the loss of Aaron Rogers and J.J. Arringtong. Outside of that, they only play N.D. which is a very mediocre team.

They won't get challenged until the National Title game.

Quake1028 · 08-13-05, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dabaomb

I think that they'll repeat. The Pac-10 is an easy division. Cal is definitely weaker with the loss of Aaron Rogers and J.J. Arringtong. Outside of that, they only play N.D. which is a very mediocre team.

They won't get challenged until the National Title game.

I don't think you are giving nearly enough credit to their games AT Oregon and Arizona State. Neither of those games are going to be cakewalks.

kurupt · 08-13-05, 02:09 PM

With that schedule, both in and out of conference, they certainly have a good shot of at least reaching the title game. While I hate them and I'm sick of hearing about Lienart (come on, 3/4ths of his td passes were to recievers who didn't have a defender within 10 yards), they are in the Pac-10 and they will start out the season with the top ranking, which means much more than it should.

Canadian Bacon · 08-13-05, 03:22 PM

Geez with that conf scheule any team that doesn't win at least 7 conf games should be ashamed

Red Dog · 08-13-05, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Canadian Bacon

Geez with that conf scheule any team that doesn't win at least 7 conf games should be ashamed

How can they all win 7+?

Canadian Bacon · 08-13-05, 03:29 PM

any team as "good" as USC i what I meant

magicmanej · 08-13-05, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Quake1028

I don't think you are giving nearly enough credit to their games AT Oregon and Arizona State. Neither of those games are going to be cakewalks.

Agreed. Oregon is very tough at home b/c Autzen Stadium is a tough place to play. Just ask Michigan...I think Oregon got them a couple of years ago when they came in as the #3 team in the nation.

As much as it pains me to say it, U$C will probably run the table again. It'll probably depend on whether they get overconfident or lose their focus...and at some point in the season they'll probably have to squeak one out on the road. But in terms of sheer talent, they are loaded and should (on paper) beat every team they play. But that's why they play the games, right?

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08-10-05, 02:55 PM	#2
fujishig DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 1999 Posts: 13,825	Being an alum, I hope so, but I'm thinking they'll lose at least a game or two. Arkansas, though unranked, will be the first test, and they're on the road against two ranked teams and ND. Cal especially will be tough, and they've been the hardest game on the schedule for a few years now. Not to mention the UCLA game is a toss up no matter what the rankings are (last year, a bad call cost UCLA the game). I'm interested to see what happens to Leinart's stock if they don't repeat, or if Bush takes the spotlight away from him. Luckily, Bush gets a lot of his yards through passing, so it should be much like this year.

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08-10-05, 09:44 PM	#7
Josh H Retired Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 27,389	Too early to tell. There certainly the favorite on paer, but still they lost a lot and there will be a lot of parity this season

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clemente DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,169	I hope not...but if there the most vunearable since they've been in a few years (since they lost Palmer, Fargas, and McCullough in the same season) No Chow....a few games early last season were won solely by Chow's ability to use Reggie Bush. It's pretty certain that the two new young offensive coordinators are not his equal (but Bush and Leinart are more seasoned....tradeoff) Loss of veteran defensive starters...Tatapu, Patterson and Cody has been stalwarts for a few seasons and they're playing on Sunday's now. I expect guys like Rucker and Sartz to step up as D-leaders and Carroll has always been good about getting those young guys in there so their not completely unaware of the speed of the game. However, they won't be anywhere near as good. Punting...Tom Malone is back. Tom Malone for Heisman! The schedule isn't killer and there aren't any super powerhouse this year (or at least their don't appear to be), so a 1 loss USC team still has a chance to play in Pasadena. But I paid a lot of money for my USC degree, so maybe I'm just biased.

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Dabaomb DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 8,790	I think that they'll repeat. The Pac-10 is an easy division. Cal is definitely weaker with the loss of Aaron Rogers and J.J. Arringtong. Outside of that, they only play N.D. which is a very mediocre team. They won't get challenged until the National Title game. __________________ RIP DAD, you're with Jesus now!!! 3/26/42 - 6/4/05 DVDTalk Thread on My Father's Passing My DVD Profiler

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kurupt Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 936	With that schedule, both in and out of conference, they certainly have a good shot of at least reaching the title game. While I hate them and I'm sick of hearing about Lienart (come on, 3/4ths of his td passes were to recievers who didn't have a defender within 10 yards), they are in the Pac-10 and they will start out the season with the top ranking, which means much more than it should.

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Canadian Bacon DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North of the South Pole, South of the North Pole Posts: 18,322	Geez with that conf scheule any team that doesn't win at least 7 conf games should be ashamed

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Canadian Bacon DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North of the South Pole, South of the North Pole Posts: 18,322	any team as "good" as USC i what I meant