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Old 01-26-05, 06:01 PM   #1
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UPN to drop WWE Smackdown

The contract gives the WWE one more year, but UPN will not be renewing after that time.

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"It still makes us a decent amount of money," says Leslie Moonves, co-president and co-chief operating office for Viacom, which owns both CBS and UPN. "When you think about the powerhouses of CBS and NBC on Thursday night, it's great counter-programming. (But) it doesn't fit into the overall (programming) strategy."
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Old 01-26-05, 06:04 PM   #2
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Wow. Didnt see that coming.
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Old 01-26-05, 06:07 PM   #3
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Interesting. Wonder if that will be the end of the WWE on non-cable networks.
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Old 01-26-05, 06:17 PM   #4
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wow..RAW ready to move in Sept (or Oct? or was it August) when their contract is up, now Smackdown...maybe they'll both end up on USA..
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Old 01-26-05, 06:23 PM   #5
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could possibly be the end of the brand split, but I wouldn't count on it
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Old 01-26-05, 06:27 PM   #6
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Figures. I just got UPN in my area. I guess I get to enjoy Smackdown for a year.
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Old 01-26-05, 06:31 PM   #7
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"It still makes us a decent amount of money," says Leslie Moonves, co-president and co-chief operating office for Viacom, which owns both CBS and UPN. "When you think about the powerhouses of CBS and NBC on Thursday night, it's great counter-programming. (But) it doesn't fit into the overall (programming) strategy."
Isn't that almost exactly what USA Network said a few years ago when they dropped Raw: numbers are good but it's not what what we want at this time......?
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Old 01-26-05, 06:44 PM   #8
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Uh... what is UPN's overall programming strategy? I just don't get it, even with wrestling in a slump it's gotta be one of the higher rated shows on that network... and when their idea of original concepts for shows includes stuff like "the mullets," they must know who their core audience is...
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Old 01-26-05, 06:52 PM   #9
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Wrestling has been dying a painful death for awhile now, I wouldn't mind seeing the horrible WWE product put out of its misery once and for all.

Vince took over wrestling just to ruin it, I still don't get that.
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Old 01-26-05, 07:18 PM   #10
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wow..RAW ready to move in Sept (or Oct? or was it August) when their contract is up, now Smackdown...maybe they'll both end up on USA..
SpikeTV is dropping RAW? seems like the WWE is in a bad way right now. do they even have anywhere else to go? USA, MTV and Spike, where next, Bravo? I'm sure Vince could come up with some type of cross promotion with the WWE/Queer Eye.
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Old 01-26-05, 07:26 PM   #11
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There is no way Spike drops Raw.
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Old 01-26-05, 08:46 PM   #12
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Something bad happens to the WWE and it's *not* HHH's fault this time!
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Old 01-26-05, 09:16 PM   #13
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Wrestling has been dying a painful death for awhile now, I wouldn't mind seeing the horrible WWE product put out of its misery once and for all.

Vince took over wrestling just to ruin it, I still don't get that.
It was very big in the "Hulkamainia" days, then it died down for a while, then it came back bigger than ever. Now it's declining again, but I wouldn't count it out for good.
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Old 01-26-05, 09:17 PM   #14
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Wow its the top show for UPN and they think it doesnt fit...... yeah... maybe they need more Homeboys from Outer Space
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Old 01-26-05, 10:45 PM   #15
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Wrestling has been dying a painful death for awhile now, I wouldn't mind seeing the horrible WWE product put out of its misery once and for all.

Vince took over wrestling just to ruin it, I still don't get that.
I disagree, I just started watching it again, and I think it's more popular now then ever.
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Old 01-26-05, 11:10 PM   #16
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I disagree, I just started watching it again, and I think it's more popular now then ever.
not a chance. ratings and attendance figures continue to slide. in it's heyday in the late 90's, Raw and Nitro would combine for more than a 10 rating on Monday night, with Raw itself often reaching 7+ for the 11:00 overrun. Now, despite a monopoly on Monday night, Raw by itself considers a 4.5 a "good" week.
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Old 01-26-05, 11:13 PM   #17
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Smackdown has been quite awful. There's too much emphasis on the backstage schtick, making angles/feuds even less believable. The writing is horrendous. And it's also too cliched having a wrestling chew out an audience on the house mike and then get distracted when their rival appears on the jumbotron to issue a challenge. Every show is the same thing.

For me, wrestling was at its peak in the '80s, but I was more of an NWA fan (Four Horsemen, Nikita Koloff, Magnum T.A., etc.) since their style was far more believable than the cartoonish, family entertainment style of the WWF. Having the Horsemen jump Dusty ("Make it good!") Rhodes in the parking lot was more satisfying than Hulk Hogan cup his ears to hear the cheers after vanquishing an opponent.
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Old 01-26-05, 11:15 PM   #18
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Something bad happens to the WWE and it's *not* HHH's fault this time!
Isn't it? Even though he is a Raw brand self-imposed star, he does attend and has on occassion made "suggestions" to Smackdown writers meetings. I remember after a Smackdown PPV Trips was backstage filling in for Vince and giving final approval on the show's content.
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Old 01-26-05, 11:59 PM   #19
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I knew HHH was part of the writing team, but I wasn't aware that he had that much power backstage for Vince to let him handle a PPV.

Okay - then it's partly HHH's fault then! Damn - it really does all lead back to Paul...errr Hunter. He needs to be off of TV for awhile.
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Old 01-27-05, 04:20 AM   #20
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hmm... so will there be a chance that someone popular from wrestling's peak time will make an appearance?

ie- ultimate warrior?
(i wonder what happend to him anyway...)
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Old 01-27-05, 05:48 AM   #21
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According to wrestlingobserver.com, this story is false.
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Old 01-27-05, 06:01 AM   #22
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I knew HHH was part of the writing team, but I wasn't aware that he had that much power backstage for Vince to let him handle a PPV.
Well, he is family, being married to Stephanie and all.
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Old 01-27-05, 07:17 AM   #23
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Spike TV does not want to drop Raw... Vince is the one thinking about leaving the network, as he feels they don't do enough promotion
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Old 01-27-05, 08:08 AM   #24
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According to wrestlingobserver.com, this story is false.
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Old 01-27-05, 09:35 AM   #25
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Well, he is family, being married to Stephanie and all.
Recently on RAW, I saw a sign "HHH Fears Divorce".
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