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Old 11-16-04, 01:04 PM   #1
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Vlad wins the AL MVP

Gary Sheffield was the runner up.
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Old 11-16-04, 01:10 PM   #2
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Re: Vlad wins the AL MVP

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Gary Sheffield was the runner up.
That is pretty pathetic.
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Old 11-16-04, 01:35 PM   #3
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I guess Manny and Papi split the Boston vote.
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Old 11-16-04, 01:41 PM   #4
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Do they have a list for the entire top ten or everyone who recieved votes yet? ESPN only showed the top five and said Ivan Rodriguez was in 10th place.

Edit: 31 different people were voted for.
1. Vlad
2. Gary Sheffield
3. Manny Ramirez
4. David Ortiz
5. Miguel Tejada
6. Johan Santana
7. Ichiro Suzuki
8. Michael Young
9. Mariano Rivera
10. Ivan Rodriguez

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Old 11-16-04, 01:53 PM   #5
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Awesome! Vlad derserved it.
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Old 11-16-04, 02:28 PM   #6
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Do they have a list for the entire top ten or everyone who recieved votes yet? ESPN only showed the top five and said Ivan Rodriguez was in 10th place.

Edit: 31 different people were voted for.
1. Vlad
2. Gary Sheffield
3. Manny Ramirez
4. David Ortiz
5. Miguel Tejada
6. Johan Santana
7. Ichiro Suzuki
8. Michael Young
9. Mariano Rivera
10. Ivan Rodriguez

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Old 11-16-04, 02:36 PM   #7
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Vlad had a monster season but this is still a joke. Everything I saw on tv said that Manny deserved it, Manny was gonna get it...then this.

I cant get greedy though
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Old 11-16-04, 02:41 PM   #8
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Mark Kotsay got the same number of votes as Pay-Rod?
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Old 11-16-04, 03:09 PM   #9
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Hideki Matsui did much more for the Yankees this season than Jeter and A-Rod.

And who was the voter that didn't think Ortiz was even good enough to be placed tenth on his ballot?

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Old 11-16-04, 03:15 PM   #10
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Hedeki Matsui did much more for the Yankees this season than Jeter and A-Rod.
Most DEFINITELY.
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Old 11-16-04, 03:18 PM   #11
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Mark Kotsay got the same number of votes as Pay-Rod?
Whoa, very cool
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Old 11-16-04, 03:21 PM   #12
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Ivan Rodriguez was in 10th place.
Go Tigers! Strangely enough his manager is probably the last Tiger to get that close.
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Old 11-16-04, 03:22 PM   #13
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Go Tigers! Strangely enough his manager is probably the last Tiger to get that close.
Cecil Fielder was a runner-up twice IIRC.
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Old 11-16-04, 03:54 PM   #14
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Jesus, this is pretty pathetic. Sure Vlad came on strong at the end of the season, but Manny should've been a lock for this.
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Old 11-16-04, 04:46 PM   #15
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Jesus, this is pretty pathetic. Sure Vlad came on strong at the end of the season, but Manny should've been a lock for this.
Oh give me a break. How in the world can you think this is pathetic? I have no problems with people that think Manny should have won, but in aboslutely no way could he even be considered a lock. Their numbers are similar, and Vlad is better defensively then Sheffield, Ramirez, or Ortiz (which is non existant). This isn't like the NL, where Bonds is noticably better then his competitors.

Vlad - .337 AVG, 39 HR, 126 RBI, 124 R, .989 OPS

Manny - .308, 43 HR, 130 RBI, 108 R, 1.009 OPS

Sheff - .290, 36 HR, 121 RBI, 117 R, .927 OPS

Ortiz - .301, 41 HR, 139 RBI, 94 R, .983 OPS

Numbers wise, all 4 men are pretty close. Manny and Ortiz undergo the same critique for me as the Cardinals players... i don't see multiple players on the same team being "most valuable." If you want to go intangibles, and say Manny or even Sheffield and Ortiz came up with a bunch of clutch hits, Vlad's September numbers are just as, if not more impressive. Arguments can be made, but pathetic? No way in hell.
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Old 11-16-04, 05:29 PM   #16
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calm down man. People will starting comparing you to me.

I think in the big 3 categories (HR, RBI, and OPS) he's ahead. That should've been a lock for him.
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Old 11-16-04, 05:57 PM   #17
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calm down man. People will starting comparing you to me.

I think in the big 3 categories (HR, RBI, and OPS) he's ahead. That should've been a lock for him.
Calm down from what? Not like i'm whining about a vocal minority that knows nothing about baseball I'm just curious how anyone can think Manny was a lock over the other players, or can think that Vlad somehow didn't deserve it. The numbers seem too close to me to be considered a lock. And taking a page from the Bonds argument, Manny had a better lineup around him. There's more to it then just those 3 categories, i mean Beltre topped Bonds in two of them
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Old 11-16-04, 06:19 PM   #18
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calm down man. People will starting comparing you to me.

I think in the big 3 categories (HR, RBI, and OPS) he's ahead. That should've been a lock for him.
Yeah, but he's barely ahead in the big three. And the defense or baserunner don't play in Ramirez's favor. Kinda sad that he lost to Sheffield too though.
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Old 11-16-04, 06:25 PM   #19
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Happy for Vlad,enjoyed watching him play up here for years with the Expos and happy to see him get the recognition as one of the games best players
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Old 11-16-04, 06:25 PM   #20
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Hideki Matsui did much more for the Yankees this season than Jeter and A-Rod.

And who was the voter that didn't think Ortiz was even good enough to be placed tenth on his ballot?
Well that's simply not true, A-Rod and Jeter did plenty. Matsui was good, but IFs and IFs who can steal bases are generally more valuable than corner OFs. Matsui hit very well, but he didn't do "much more"
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Old 11-16-04, 06:31 PM   #21
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Vlad most definitely deserved it .
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Old 11-16-04, 06:31 PM   #22
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I can see why Vlad won, but Sheffield getting 2nd is ridiculous. And DH or not, leaving Ortiz off the ballot completely is a disgrace.
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Old 11-16-04, 06:59 PM   #23
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I can see why Vlad won, but Sheffield getting 2nd is ridiculous. And DH or not, leaving Ortiz off the ballot completely is a disgrace.
Ditto. Congrats to Vlad!
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Old 11-16-04, 07:01 PM   #24
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I can see why Vlad won, but Sheffield getting 2nd is ridiculous. And DH or not, leaving Ortiz off the ballot completely is a disgrace.
Exactly...Oh well, Manny and Ortiz have rings now and I bet Vlad would gladly trade his MVP for the one that Manny has. And Bonds for that matter.
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Old 11-16-04, 08:34 PM   #25
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Vlad rules, he is just an awesome player to watch and an overall nice guy. to him, and to everyone that was on the ballot.

If Vlad didn't win, I might have gone with Ortiz. The guy is a beast, and a great clubhouse influence.
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