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Old 02-17-04, 11:33 AM   #1
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NBA Trade Rumors

After watching some ESPN, I heard about some trade rumors.

Think 'Zeke is done dealing in NY?

Think there will be an Iverson/Francis trade?

Any ideas or thoughts?
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Old 02-17-04, 11:50 AM   #2
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Here's a few rumors according to ESPN.com Insider

Dikembe Mutuombo (Knicks) -- Raptors, Wolves, Mavs, Grizzlies, Spurs
Rasheed Wallace (Hawks) -- Knicks, Pistons, Spurs
Juwan Howard (Magic) -- Celtics (with Pat Garrity and either Steven Hunter or Gordan Giricek for Chris Mills and Chris Mihm), Wolves (Michael Olowokandi), Sonics, Nuggets, Pistons
Dale Davis (Blazers) -- Bucks (Toni Kukoc), Raptors, Mavs
Antoine Walker (Mavs) -- Sonics (Ronald Murray), Warriors (Erick Dampier)
Antwan Jamison (Mavs) -- Cavaliers (for Zyrdunas Ilgauskas?)
Ronald Murray (Sonics) -- Mavs (for Walker?)
Eric Snow (Sixers) -- Magic
Shandon Anderson (Knicks) -- Blazers (Ruben Patterson?)
Corliss Williamson (Pistons) -- Bulls (Marcus Fizer and Kendall Gill), Celtics (Chris Mills and a 1st round draft pick)
Chucky Atkins (Pistons) -- Magic (Tyronn Lue and Gordan Giricek), Bulls
Gordan Giricek (Magic) -- Pistons (see above), Jazz (Carlos Arroyo or Jarron Collins), Bulls
Zyrdunas Ilgauskas, Cavs -- Mavericks (Jamison?)
Allen Iverson (76ers) -- ? (mentions a Iverson-Steve Francis swap offhand)
Vin Baker (Celtics, recently released) -- Knicks
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Old 02-17-04, 11:52 AM   #3
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I doubt there will be a Francis/Iverson trade. Big name for big name deals rarely get done mid-season. And although Isiah Thomas may be able to push Mutombo on someone (Dallas is pretty desperate)... I'm not sure who they could get in return.
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Old 02-17-04, 11:58 AM   #4
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I doubt there will be a Francis/Iverson trade. Big name for big name deals rarely get done mid-season. And although Isiah Thomas may be able to push Mutombo on someone (Dallas is pretty desperate)... I'm not sure who they could get in return.
I don't think so either, but it's possible. Would be wildly unpopular, but I think AI is gone, either by the trade deadline or next summer (which is more likely). Sixers need to blow the team up completely and start over.
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Old 02-17-04, 12:02 PM   #5
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I think the Mavs made a mistake in trading Van Exel, but Jamison has been playing great off the bench. I hope that the Mav's don't f-up the team any more.

I think the current Rocket's team is like Philly before they got Eric Snow. The Rockets deperately need a good PG like Snow and move Francis to the 2 guard spot
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Old 02-17-04, 12:40 PM   #6
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I just hope we get a point guard before a big.
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Old 02-17-04, 12:42 PM   #7
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My poor Bulls don't even warrant a mention

Jerome Williams to Philly for Aaron McKie looks highly possible. If Giricek is off the market, we may be stuck with Fizer til the offseason.
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Old 02-17-04, 12:58 PM   #8
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The Pistons were close to getting Wallace from Portland, now they are heavy into trying to get him from Atlanta.
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Old 02-17-04, 01:06 PM   #9
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Juwan Howard (Magic) -- Celtics (with Pat Garrity and either Steven Hunter or Gordan Giricek for Chris Mills and Chris Mihm), Wolves (Michael Olowokandi), Sonics, Nuggets, Pistons
Howard for Olowokandi is the rumor I've heard the most, given that Olowakandi comes back from his injury.

The Magic wanted to sign both in the offseason, but couldn't do it for cap reasons after the NBA refused to give them an injury exception for Hill.

They really don't need Howard, given that Gooden plays the same position and needs the minutes to improve since he's only a second year player.
 
Old 02-17-04, 01:58 PM   #10
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I've been informed from "a source" that Rashweed Wallace is now a Piston. No proof as of yet, though.

edit: no proof ever came. Source wasn't much of a source
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Old 02-17-04, 03:18 PM   #11
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Antwan Jamison (Mavs) -- Cavaliers (for Zyrdunas Ilgauskas?)
This wont happen for one main reason, the Gunds love Ilgauskas, Mr. Gund thinks of him like a son.
 
Old 02-17-04, 03:20 PM   #12
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I could see Antoine Walker going to Golden State, but not just for Dampier. Prolly for Dampier and Van Exel. I heard a rumor over the weekend involving just Walker & Van Exel.

Do the numbers work on those deals?
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Old 02-17-04, 03:27 PM   #13
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I'd love it if Van Exel went to Houston
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Old 02-17-04, 03:28 PM   #14
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Iverson and Yao would be brutal together. He'd either ballhog or they'd be the next Shaq-Kobe.

I guess either way, it'd be like Shaq-Kobe
 
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I'd love it if Van Exel went to Houston
I wouldn't. The last thing we need is another player who shoots too much.
 
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I could see Antoine Walker going to Golden State, but not just for Dampier. Prolly for Dampier and Van Exel. I heard a rumor over the weekend involving just Walker & Van Exel.

Do the numbers work on those deals?
Walker for Van Exel would work, but adding Dampier wouldn't.
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Old 02-17-04, 04:06 PM   #17
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Van Exel carried the Mavs through the playoffs last year. I think him and Francis would be a better back court than Francis/Mobley.
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Old 02-17-04, 05:22 PM   #18
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I would love to see the warriors get any decent talent for Van Exel. even walker
 
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Van Exel single-handedly beat the depleted Kings last year.
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Spurs are supposedly trying to package Malik Rose, who has been rumored to be uncoachable since Robert Horry joined the team and took his minutes, and Ron Mercer who doesn't fit into the Spurs offense to trade. Not sure who they think they could get though. Neither one is a probably worth a major contributor from another team.

Mutombo would be a perfect fit for the Spurs, but I doubt they have anything New York wants.
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Old 02-17-04, 10:11 PM   #21
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I can't see how Mutombo is going to last any longer in NY he's already been benched.

I doubt that the Mavs are going to make any trades by the deadline.

I think that Chicago is going to get rid of Jamal Crawford with how great Hinrich has been playing.
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Old 02-17-04, 10:59 PM   #22
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Who thinks Keith Van Horn might get traded again before the deadline is up? Poor guy, nobody wants him. Hopefully, the Warriors don't trade for him.
 
Old 02-17-04, 11:31 PM   #23
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I've been informed from "a source" that Rashweed Wallace is now a Piston. No proof as of yet, though.
I hope this ass gets bounced around the NBA like a soccer ball.
 
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Who thinks Keith Van Horn might get traded again before the deadline is up? Poor guy, nobody wants him. Hopefully, the Warriors don't trade for him.
i'm not sure can you do back to back trades with the same guy? I thought you had to hold them for a bit?
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Howard for Olowokandi is the rumor I've heard the most, given that Olowakandi comes back from his injury.
I don't buy it for a second. What do the Wolves gain from this trade? Look at their team as it will be when Hudson, Wally, and Kandi return. They're solid up and down the lineup, and deep into the bench. The center spot is the weakest, but going from Ervin Johnson to a healthy Kandi is certianly a step up.

If they send Kandi away, they're back to Johnson and Oliver Miller playing center, and what does Howard add? You've already got to find minutes for Cassell, Hudson, Spre, Wally, KG, and Trent. And their reserves like Hoiberg and Hassell have also been playing well. All adding Howard does is reduces minutes for everyone else. You weaken yourself a bunch at center and don't really strengthen yourself much at forward, where you're already VERY strong.

No ... I just don't see it. This trade does abolutly nothing positive for the Wolves, and it ain't great for the Magic either. Howard is the only guy down there who can be counted on to produce anything night-in, night-out, besides T-Mac. Kandi is more of a defensive presense. It would just further ensure that opposing defenses pay exclusive attention to him.
 
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