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Old 03-03-17, 07:44 PM   #1
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Obama "Slush Fund" Scheme Is "Worse Than A Mafia Shakedown"

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The Obama administration funneled billions of dollars to activist organizations through a Department of Justice slush fund scheme, according to congressional investigators. "It’s clear partisan politics played a role in the illicit actions that were made," Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, told Fox News. "The DOJ is the last place this should have occurred." Findings spearheaded by the House Judiciary Committee point to a process shrouded in secrecy whereby monies were distributed to a labyrinth of nonprofit organizations involved with grass-roots activism.
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worse than a mafia shakedown, because at least if the mafia shakes you down for protection, your store doesn't burn down. This is a case where the liberals have played Robin Hood -- They've stolen from the government, taxpayers, and they've given to their pals. It is really outrageous.
Now it all makes sense. Distract from an upcoming scandal of amazing proportions and dollar amounts...and focus on unverified facts and accusations of Russian equivalency.

Now it all makes sense why key Democrats are so purposely distracted with the Trump Administration.
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Old 03-03-17, 08:15 PM   #2
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Re: Obama "Slush Fund" Scheme Is "Worse Than A Mafia Shakedown"

The article that you posted doesn't even adequately describe what happened or whether it is legal. Based on a different story that I just read at Fox News, this practice is apparently legal. Some Republicans supposedly want to end the practice, but others are probably singing a different tune given that the GOP is now in charge of the DOJ.

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When big banks are sued by the government for discrimination or mortgage abuse, they can settle the cases by donating to third-party non-victims. The settlements do not specify how these third-party groups could use the windfall.
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Both the Government Accountability Office and Congressional Research Service have concluded that the settlement agreements do not violate Congress’ power of the purse. But others disagree.
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While legislation sputtered last year, lawmakers have resurrected an effort to quash the practice with companion bills in the House and Senate.

“Democrats thought it was an attack on Obama,” said Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., speaking to Fox News. “This is not a Republican or Democrat issue, but one of good government. Actions settled by the federal government should go back to the federal government, back to the taxpayer.”
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Old 03-03-17, 09:12 PM   #3
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Yes, you've really blown the doors of this whole "giving money to charity" scandal.
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Old 03-03-17, 09:47 PM   #4
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...shrouded in secrecy whereby monies were distributed to a labyrinth of nonprofit organizations involved with grass-roots activism.
That makes it sound like they (the reporters) don't know where funds really went, and don't yet have proof of any sort. Which leaves it not much more substantiated than any given conspiracy theory.

How long has this been the process for the DOJ? Is it new under Obama (my guess is no)? Is there a verifiable paper trail? What's the spin on why this exists? Couldn't the offenders just pay the US government, in lieu of 'donating to charity'? Does it have something to do with not admitting guilt?

And it doesn't always appear to be "grass roots activism" groups. They also funnel funds to radical leftists groups like Fish and Game Departments.
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Old 03-03-17, 09:56 PM   #5
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I guess Polizei got tired of having his ass handed back to him in the alternative facts thread he had to start some bullshit thread to deflect. Sounds about right.

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I don't see it like that. It's always interesting to find out how these things work. The DOJ allowing for "donations" in lieu of "fines" is quite interesting.

I can look at it objectively and ask questions. It's good that it was brought to light. I'd like to read about where this started, why this exists, where the money goes.
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Old 03-04-17, 06:45 AM   #7
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I don't see it like that. It's always interesting to find out how these things work. The DOJ allowing for "donations" in lieu of "fines" is quite interesting.

I can look at it objectively and ask questions. It's good that it was brought to light. I'd like to read about where this started, why this exists, where the money goes.
It's interesting to imagine how all of the "speed trap hamlets" would behave if those fines didn't go straight to into their general fund. In a perfect world, no one responsible for the law should profit from enforcing it. Enforcement should be done solely for the good of society. Fines should only exist to punish (and fund clean up/repair from these specific activities), not fill coffers.
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I guess Polizei got tired of having his ass handed back to him in the alternative facts thread he had to start some bullshit thread to deflect. Sounds about right.

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I don't see it like that. It's always interesting to find out how these things work. The DOJ allowing for "donations" in lieu of "fines" is quite interesting.

I can look at it objectively and ask questions. It's good that it was brought to light. I'd like to read about where this started, why this exists, where the money goes.
It's interesting to see how those things work, but when the OP says "The Democrats are talking about Russia to distract from this bombshell!" And it's not a bombshell and it's not the reason people are talking about Russia, that's deflection.
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Charitable donations in lieu of fines is the business equivalent of community service, and it happens at all levels. One of Trump scandals during the election was that he was using his foundation to make such donations for judgments leveled against Mar-a-lago in Florida.

I love how on the right "grass-roots" organizations are a huge boogieman. I guess that's an offshoot of "community organizer" becoming a dirty word. People working to make their community better is just horrible.
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Charitable donations in lieu of fines is the business equivalent of community service, and it happens at all levels. One of Trump scandals during the election was that he was using his foundation to make such donations for judgments leveled against Mar-a-lago in Florida.
Right, paying his fines with other people's money. Realistically I'm sure they knew they were lining Trump's pockets with it, but hey, they got a writeoff!

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I love how on the right "grass-roots" organizations are a huge boogieman. I guess that's an offshoot of "community organizer" becoming a dirty word. People working to make their community better is just horrible.
That was the biggest load of bullshit. I remember Jon Stewart saying "Community organizers? Fuck you guys for trying to make lives better in your community!"
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The starting of this thread has the stink of desperation.
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The starting of this thread has the stink of desperation.
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