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Old 03-02-17, 11:08 PM   #1
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Equal Rights Amendment = Genital Mutilation Free-For-All?

Yeah, I did a double-take too. Nevada is about to belatedly ratify the ERA, which at this point is just symbolic but some writer at the Las Vegas Review Journal (the local Las Vegas paper that just happens to be owned by the right-wing activist billionaire Sheldon Adelson) took it an opportunity to expound on all the Sodom and Gomorrah effects of allowing equal rights for men and women, and tactfully lays all the blame at the feet of the local Democrats :

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/co...tal-mutilation

Posted date February 28, 2017 - 4:54pmUpdated March 1, 2017 - 11:59am
Democrats support bill that would legalize female genital mutilation

By VICTOR JOECKS
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL

The Nevada Senate will soon consider a bill that would overturn Nevada’s ban on female genital mutilation, and Senate Democrats are tripping over themselves to vote for it.

Why would anyone support rolling back a ban on something Nevada law defines as sexual abuse?

That’s one of the questions supporters of Senate Joint Resolution 2, the “Equal Rights Amendment” to the U.S. Constitution, should answer before voting on it as early as Wednesday. SJR2 sponsor Sen. Pat Spearman, D-Las Vegas, didn’t respond to my request for comment.

Congress passed the ERA in 1972 as a constitutional amendment, needing the approval of 38 state legislatures within seven years. Even after Congress bypassed constitutional procedure to extend the deadline by three years, only 35 states approved it. Nevada wasn’t one of them.


The amendment is short, and the key part says, “Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.”

The soundbite of equal rights is appealing. The details of the Equal Rights Amendment are appalling.

Female genital mutilation, also called female circumcision, is currently a felony in Nevada. It involves “removing or infibulating the clitoris, vulva, labia major or labia minor for nonmedical purposes.” Male circumcision is legal, and in the United States, around 80 percent of males are circumcised.

If the ERA passes, female circumcision wouldn’t merely be legal — it’d be a right protected by the U.S. Constitution. That’d be atrocious, but the ERA doesn’t make exceptions for preventing sexual abuse.

Worried about rape culture? The ERA would force our country to have single-sex prisons. The ERA means male and female sports in high school and college would be sex-integrated, along with fraternities, sororities, the Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts. Forget the debate about transgender bathroom usage. Under the ERA, schools, businesses and churches could only offer single-sex public showers, locker rooms and bathrooms.

It would eliminate Social Security benefits for stay-at-home moms. Any military draft would have to include women, with some sent unwillingly to the front lines. It would require taxpayers to fund elective abortions. It would change Nevada’s nudity laws to allow topless women in public.

Fortunately, the deadline to ratify the ERA passed more than 30 years ago. Even Rep. Dina Titus, D-Nev., in her letter of support for SJR2, acknowledged that the bill is “symbolic at this point.”

Symbolic or not, any effort to remove a ban on female genital mutilation must be strongly opposed. Any claim by a politician after the fact that he or she didn’t understand all the implications of the ERA doesn’t fly.

A previous version of this column incorrectly identified the party affiliation and district location of Rep. Dina Titus.


Victor Joecks’ column appears in the Nevada section each Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Contact him at vjoecks@reviewjournal.com. Follow @victorjoecks on Twitter.


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Old 03-02-17, 11:32 PM   #2
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Pretty soon they'll be legalizing murder! Slippery Slope!
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Old 03-03-17, 06:24 AM   #3
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Pretty soon they'll be legalizing murder! Slippery Slope!
Can't happen. As we have been informed repeatedly in other threads, as soon as it is legalized, it no longer becomes "murder."

We have millions of legalized "killings" going on in this country, but let's be sure that we get the legal terms right.
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Old 03-03-17, 06:37 AM   #4
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Can't happen. As we have been informed repeatedly in other threads, as soon as it is legalized, it no longer becomes "murder."

We have millions of legalized "killings" going on in this country, but let's be sure that we get the legal terms right.
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Old 03-03-17, 07:15 AM   #5
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Re: Equal Rights Amendment = Genital Mutilation Free-For-All?

Is this a news story or an editorial? If it's news, I can't tell what the he'll is going on. Conjecture, hasty generalizations, burying the lead, and vague seemingly on purpose. I don't get wherected the headline matches the story.

If it's an editorial, wow, is that a click bait title with a verbal vomit body.

Seriously, what is that article even saying and how is it backing that point up?
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Old 03-03-17, 07:22 AM   #6
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Is this a news story or an editorial? If it's news, I can't tell what the he'll is going on. Conjecture, hasty generalizations, burying the lead, and vague seemingly on purpose. I don't get wherected the headline matches the story.
What the he'ck is wherected?
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Old 03-03-17, 11:03 AM   #7
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Any military draft would have to include women, with some sent unwillingly to the front lines.
That's true right now. The Supreme Court ruled in 1981 that women didn't have to be included in the selective service system because the military did not consider them capable of serving on the front lines.

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But the Obama administration changed the military's policy to allow women in combat, which invalidates the SCOTUS opinion. If anybody cared enough to bring a lawsuit today, the courts would almost certainly require women to register for the draft.
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Old 03-03-17, 09:02 PM   #8
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Just do away with the fucking selective service and draft altogether.

I am nobody's fucking stormtrooper.

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My dad was drafted in WWII. He broke his wrist as a kid and it wasn't set perfectly straight. This disqualified him for combat but they still took him. They made him an MP. He also was a guard at a POW camp in France.

I always thought there were several ratings ranging from 1-A (qualified for combat) to 4-F(won't take you at all).
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My dad was drafted in WWII. He broke his wrist as a kid and it wasn't set perfectly straight. This disqualified him for combat but they still took him. They made him an MP. He also was a guard at a POW camp in France.

I always thought there were several ratings ranging from 1-A (qualified for combat) to 4-F(won't take you at all).
The number of men who aren't qualified for combat but can perform other duties is a small fraction of the total. If women were drafted even though none of them were allowed in combat, that'd mean half the military couldn't fight.
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The number of men who aren't qualified for combat but can perform other duties is a small fraction of the total. If women were drafted even though none of them were allowed in combat, that'd mean half the military couldn't fight.
From what I can remember, about 15% of women are in the US military. The other 85% is men. These are active duty.

If women were drafted, but none of them were allowed in combat...you'd barely notice. At least on the front lines. Most of them are in the medical, supply, and administrative...and since those are not combat positions...you wouldn't notice the change.

So saying half the military couldn't fight if women were not allowed to fight...is conspicuously ridiculous.
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From what I can remember, about 15% of women are in the US military. The other 85% is men. These are active duty.

If women were drafted, but none of them were allowed in combat...you'd barely notice. At least on the front lines. Most of them are in the medical, supply, and administrative...and since those are not combat positions...you wouldn't notice the change.

So saying half the military couldn't fight if women were not allowed to fight...is conspicuously ridiculous.
That's not even close to what I'm saying.
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Well, I hope not, because I wrote the comment.
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So, let me know if I am interpreting this correctly:

Nevada wants to pass the Equal Rights Amendment.

Some person thinks that since male circumcision is legal, passing the ERA would automatically make female circumcision legal.

Seems like a bit of a stretch to me. Couldn't you make the same argument that male circumcision would be illegal with the ERA?

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