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Old 01-21-17, 11:51 AM   #26
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So why did millions of women vote for him.
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Old 01-21-17, 11:53 AM   #27
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Do you treat women with respect?
Absolutely. I've never once said anything remotely equivalent to what Trump has said, even while in a locker room.

Also I'm not the President.
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Old 01-21-17, 11:53 AM   #28
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So why did millions of women vote for him.
Because he had a (R) next to his name, and JESUS.
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Old 01-21-17, 11:53 AM   #29
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A lot of people simply refuse to cross party lines, regardless of common sense. Plus he's Pro-life which is apparently still a topic of interest.
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Old 01-21-17, 11:54 AM   #30
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I think all of us have said things we regret at some point in our lives.
No. But I think about what I'm going to say so much that I usually end up not saying anything at all. Maybe that's, like, a lesson for the kids 'n shit.
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Old 01-21-17, 11:55 AM   #31
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^ A lot of people simply refuse to cross party lines, regardless of common sense.
Now you people(!) are getting it! I figured if I repeat it enough times it'll make it true.
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Old 01-21-17, 11:55 AM   #32
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So why did millions of women vote for him.
I have no idea. But even if millions did, does that excuse what he says about women?

And let's be honest, more people voted against him. I know you don't think those people are real Americans but it's still the truth.
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Old 01-21-17, 11:55 AM   #33
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Because he had a (R) next to his name, and JESUS.
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^ A lot of people simply refuse to cross party lines, regardless of common sense. Plus he's Pro-life which apparently still a topic of interest.
Ahhh, so it's ok for you guys to criticize women and call them ignorant, stupid, uninformed, zealots...but not anyone else.

Yeah, I've gone down this debate path before...
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Old 01-21-17, 11:56 AM   #34
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What are you talking about? That was a gender neutral complaint

Some people just really do not like going against their own party, it happens. As somebody that doesn't belong to a party it's a little baffling. I know plenty of women that voted for him, though most were anti-Hillary more so than Pro-Trump. Some also just saw him as a better person to help the economy and went that way regardless of his actions.

Dudes our president, he's also a scumbag and someone that brags about sexually assaulting women, those titles can co-exist with one person. He isn't the first, won't be the last.

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Trump has said enough horrible things about women in PUBLIC that it is safe to say that he does not treat women with respect.
Exactly.
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Old 01-21-17, 12:06 PM   #36
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Ahhh, so it's ok for you guys to criticize women and call them ignorant, stupid, uninformed, zealots...but not anyone else.

Yeah, I've gone down this debate path before...
I'll ask again - do you think Trump respects women?
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Old 01-21-17, 12:16 PM   #37
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I think all of us have said things we regret at some point in our lives. And when it comes to talking in private with friends...I'm sure those things said, we would not want those things said to define us as human beings.
No, we don't. However, what we actually do as human beings defines us.
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Old 01-21-17, 12:18 PM   #38
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From the closed Trumpocalypse thread:

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2. I believe school unions have ruined education in the country. I believe the Federal Department of Education is largely responsible for the mess and is a completely unnecessary, wasteful and destructive entity. I believe poor kids who are forced to attend horrible public schools should have the option to attend charter schools. I believe this competition will force the public schools to get better. Trump's nominee, Betsy DeVos, agrees with me on these points. I think she's a great choice.
Unfortunately, the evidence from studies doesn't support your beliefs. There is little to no evidence that students perform better when they switch from regular public schools to charter schools or private schools. That's why "school choice" activists cherry pick individual "miracle" schools. And nowadays they talk less about performance in math and language arts and more about metrics that can be manipulated such as graduation and college-attendance rates.

Where's your evidence? Are your beliefs based on the evidence? If not, then why should public policy be made based on your beliefs instead of the evidence?
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Old 01-21-17, 12:25 PM   #39
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I'll ask again - do you think Trump respects women?
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So why did millions of women vote for him.
Unfortunately, we still have women in this country who don't think for themselves. They are subservient to their spouses and vote the same as them.
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Absolutely. I've never once said anything remotely equivalent to what Trump has said, even while in a locker room.
Most people don't. And regret? First chance he had to retract and apologize he just minimized his bragging of sexual assault with "it's just locker room talk". That's the behavior of a repeat offender, not somebody that said something they regret and are looking to change.
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Old 01-21-17, 12:27 PM   #42
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So why did millions of women vote for him.
Because they are married or related to the same folks that voted for Trump. Plus another Clinton in office was not alluring to them, even if it was a woman.
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Old 01-21-17, 12:28 PM   #43
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We also have millions of poor people who don't see themselves the same as the "other" poor people. It's mind numbing but true.
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Old 01-21-17, 12:28 PM   #44
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Charter schools are not regulated as public schools are, which is a huge problem. If you compare public v.s. charter schools, using students of similar socioeconomic status, the public schools usually kick their ass. Ghostbuster is correct in his above statement.

Devos quite simply has interest in shifting money from low income public schooling to private charter schools, thus widening the gap between the two.
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Old 01-21-17, 12:31 PM   #45
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The Women's March in Chicago has been turned into a rally because too many people showed up, and it's quite likely the Washington march will exceed the size of the first Tea Party rallies across the country combined.

If this goes beyond a one-day protest and into an organized opposition movement, Republicans are going to learn a harsh lesson in 2018.
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Women also aren't a hive mind (in response to why women voted for Trump).
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Old 01-21-17, 12:37 PM   #47
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Love seeing all of the attendees of the various Women's Marches protest the President around the world. Gives me hope that people will be willing to do what they can to fight him every step of the way, especially those he treats with such disrespect.
My wife and a bunch of her friends are at the one in New York City. They expect between 100,000 - 200,000.
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My wife, Mother-In-Law, and daughter just headed out for the Vegas protest.
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Guess which picture is from the Inauguration, and which from the Women's March.


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