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Old 12-10-16, 12:26 PM   #76
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I do have to point out that no other government has meddled in more elections in other countries than the US. Just sayin'...
So? The U.S. has bombed other countries; that doesn't mean we should have just shrugged and sheepishly grinned after Pearl Harbor. This is not a moral argument about the right of a given nation-state to self determination. This is a practical argument. As a citizen of the U.S., I want U.S. interests safeguarded.
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Old 12-10-16, 12:37 PM   #77
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Old 12-10-16, 12:59 PM   #79
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I could've been...

Russian Hackers Had RNC Data But Didn't Release It

And if they still haven't released it, then that means that Trump and the Republicans are STILL under the influence of the Russians. The interference didn't end with the election.
Let that sink in...
Trump says they're wrong, and he supposedly knows more than the generals and intelligence directors. I'm sure many Trump supporters will claim that Russia didn't find anything worthwhile because the Republicans are squeaky clean. What other rationalizations will be used? I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Old 12-10-16, 01:00 PM   #80
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I Stand corrected, to clarify my "team" is not represented in government, at least not in any major way
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Old 12-10-16, 01:02 PM   #81
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Wow, this election is such a clusterfuck. Putin probably wakes up each morning and falls asleep each night with a huge shit-eating grin on his face as he contemplates his role.
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Old 12-10-16, 01:07 PM   #82
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"When you choose not to decide you still have made a choice." - Neil Peart
Another foreigner trying to influence U.S. elections!

At least they finally did manage to sway enough RHOF voters, much to Wenner's chagrin.




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Old 12-10-16, 01:26 PM   #83
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LOL, this is getting WEIRD
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Old 12-10-16, 04:25 PM   #85
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If anything, Hillary probably paid Russian hackers to infiltrate particular systems. I mean, why not. Worst case scenario, if you lose...you can blame the Russians and accuse Trump of doing it.

Speaking of, doesn't Podesta have previous and/or current ties to Russian energy companies (Joule Unlimited), was even on the board of directors, and owns a rather good chunk of stock (80,000 shares)?

I guess if the Obama Administration allowed Russia to use Podesta for their interests...why would it be a problem for other administrations?
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Old 12-10-16, 04:40 PM   #86
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If anything, Hillary probably paid Russian hackers to infiltrate particular systems. I mean, why not. Worst case scenario, if you lose...you can blame the Russians and accuse Trump of doing it.
If that were even a remote possibility, would you support an investigation to find out if it's true?
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Old 12-10-16, 05:18 PM   #87
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"When you choose not to decide you still have made a choice." - Neil Peart
I must confess he's not my go-to philosopher:

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Or a span of geological time
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Old 12-10-16, 06:08 PM   #88
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If that were even a remote possibility, would you support an investigation to find out if it's true?
Nope.

Why? Because this whole Russian hacking thing is nonsense, and if it was real, both parties were taking advantage of the situation. Hillary was busy hacking into her own files, spreading breadcrumbs the size of Texas Toast, so even Stephen Hawking would notice, and second, Trump was doing his thing by merely Tweeting his news-baiting entertainment cortex and stroking Putin's ego.

I keep on sayin'...Dems peeps needs to focus on the policies...not the person.
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Old 12-10-16, 06:11 PM   #89
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I'm sure many Trump supporters will claim that Russia didn't find anything worthwhile because the Republicans are squeaky clean. What other rationalizations will be used? I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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If anything, Hillary probably paid Russian hackers to infiltrate particular systems. I mean, why not. Worst case scenario, if you lose...you can blame the Russians and accuse Trump of doing it.
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If anything, Hillary probably paid Russian hackers to infiltrate particular systems. I mean, why not. Worst case scenario, if you lose...you can blame the Russians and accuse Trump of doing it.

Speaking of, doesn't Podesta have previous and/or current ties to Russian energy companies (Joule Unlimited), was even on the board of directors, and owns a rather good chunk of stock (80,000 shares)?

I guess if the Obama Administration allowed Russia to use Podesta for their interests...why would it be a problem for other administrations?
WTF? Hlllary knew she was going to lose so she was cahoots with the Russians to make it happen?

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Old 12-10-16, 06:33 PM   #92
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since someone had to post it...

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WTF? Hlllary knew she was going to lose so she was cahoots with the Russians to make it happen?

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If anything, Hillary probably paid Russian hackers to infiltrate particular systems. I mean, why not. Worst case scenario, if you lose...you can blame the Russians and accuse Trump of doing it.

Speaking of, doesn't Podesta have previous and/or current ties to Russian energy companies (Joule Unlimited), was even on the board of directors, and owns a rather good chunk of stock (80,000 shares)?

I guess if the Obama Administration allowed Russia to use Podesta for their interests...why would it be a problem for other administrations?
This ladies and gentlemen is where the idiocracy starts.
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Old 12-10-16, 08:08 PM   #95
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If anything, Hillary probably paid Russian hackers to infiltrate particular systems. I mean, why not. Worst case scenario, if you lose...you can blame the Russians and accuse Trump of doing it.

Speaking of, doesn't Podesta have previous and/or current ties to Russian energy companies (Joule Unlimited), was even on the board of directors, and owns a rather good chunk of stock (80,000 shares)?

I guess if the Obama Administration allowed Russia to use Podesta for their interests...why would it be a problem for other administrations?
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This ladies and gentlemen is where the idiocracy starts.
You're too funny. In fact, I had to buy PC Monitor Soda Guards just because of you.

So, I will just present the facts since people like you prey on the uninformed.

Therefore, I will at least provide those who are viewing this little back and forth, and they can look into this themselves.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/john-pod...ans-1477262565

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Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta has responded to the WikiLeaks publication of his private emails by suggesting they were stolen by the Russians to elect Donald Trump. What he doesn’t like to talk about is the business he’s done with a Kremlin-backed investment firm and the lengths he’s gone to avoid scrutiny of this relationship.
Podesta never had associations with a Russian energy company. Uhuh.

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“Clinton Cash” author Peter Schweizer and the Trump campaign have been urging the media to pay attention to Mr. Podesta’s Russian connection and perhaps they should. The story begins in 2011 when the solar energy startup Joule Unlimited announced that Mr. Podesta had been elected to its board of directors. In a company press release, Joule’s CEO at the time lauded Mr. Podesta’s “extensive experience within the US government and internationally as well.” No one claimed Mr. Podesta was a scientific expert, but the company’s founder expressed the hope that their new associate “can help Joule build the lasting relationships needed for long-term success.”
Ladies and Gents...this is what happens when you only read your favorite circle-jerk newz/article/opinion websites.

I suppose now we'll have Supermallet say, "But, but, but, but I wasn't talking about THAT minor little micro insignificant thingie. I was talking about something else..."

Uhuh.
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Old 12-10-16, 08:13 PM   #96
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LOL, this is getting WEIRD
Walsh is right.

If Trump and the GOP were colluding with Russia to influence the election that is fucking treason. That word gets thrown around a lot, but holy shit...
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You're too funny. In fact, I had to buy PC Monitor Soda Guards just because of you.

So, I will just present the facts since people like you prey on the uninformed.

Therefore, I will at least provide those who are viewing this little back and forth, and they can look into this themselves.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/john-pod...ans-1477262565



Podesta never had associations with a Russian energy company. Uhuh.



Ladies and Gents...this is what happens when you only read your favorite circle-jerk newz/article/opinion websites.

I suppose now we'll have Supermallet say, "But, but, but, but I wasn't talking about THAT minor little micro insignificant thingie. I was talking about something else..."

Uhuh.
Now you quote yourself?
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Old 12-10-16, 08:50 PM   #99
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The thing about this is – the doubt this will sew about the legitimacy of the presidency will linger and fester. You think the Gore/Bush SC thing was bad, at least that was internal. Add in the unprecedented popular vote margin and this... is not gonna go away.
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I'm predicting this thread will be the longest of next year in this forum. Thanks for starting it Polezei.
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