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Old 10-09-16, 07:54 PM   #76
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Lol who the hell is clapping at the end of that?
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Old 10-09-16, 07:56 PM   #77
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I've got my popcorn and Mr. Pibb ready!
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Old 10-09-16, 07:57 PM   #78
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Calling these women liars is rather shameful and I find it interesting rape and sexual assault are ok with most Democrats and most Liberals...as long as it's the opposing party being accused.
I didn't call them liars. I called Donald Trump a con man. Which he is. Whether it's this, or purposely selling bank notes to his stockholders when he knows they'll never get paid.

Here is a heavy-handed brand new interview with one woman who says she was raped by Bill in 1978. Maybe this is old news. I'm too young to remember much of the Lewinsky stuff.

Edit: I assume her claims are real. I don't think this would ever go over today, with so much 'rape awareness' everywhere. I like to think there's been a big adjustment in what is and is not acceptable.



Of course, it's also acceptable to post this time when Donald Trump raped a 13 year old girl.



I assume that neither girls are lying.
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Old 10-09-16, 08:01 PM   #79
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Calling these women liars is rather shameful and I find it interesting rape and sexual assault are ok with most Democrats and most Liberals...as long as it's the opposing party being accused.
Was it shameful when Trump called them terrible and unattractive?

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Over the weekend, Donald Trump has called former President Bill Clinton an abuser of women and Hillary Clinton a bully who intimidated his victims.

But if you rewind to 1998, the Republican presidential nominee had a very different view of the 42nd president, defending him as the real "victim" in the wake of the fallout of the Monica Lewinsky scandal and blasting the accusers as "terrible" and "unattractive."

He also suggested that Clinton should have kept the scandal -- which he said "should have been nothing -- to himself."

Days after President Clinton admitted to having an inappropriate relationship with former White House intern Monica Lewinsky, Trump said Clinton was a “victim” and critiqued the physical appearances of various women with whom Clinton had been accused of having extramarital relations at different times.

“It’s like it's from hell, it's a terrible group of people,” Trump said in an interview with FOX News' Neil Cavuto on Aug. 19, 1998.

Asked by Cavuto if Clinton’s image as a “quasi-sex symbol” stood to somehow benefit from the alleged extramarital relations, Trump took issue with the characterization.

“I don't necessarily agree with his victims, his victims are terrible,” Trump said. “He is really a victim himself. But he put himself in that position.”

“The whole group, Paula Jones, Lewinsky, it's just a really unattractive group. I'm not just talking about physical," he said.

“Would it be any different if it were a supermodel crowd?” Cavuto then asked.

“I think at least it would be more pleasant to watch,” Trump replied.

Trump suggested that Clinton could have avoided the public relations fallout that followed his admission of "inappropriate" relations with Lewinsky had he stayed silent on the topic altogether, rather than initially denying the reports of an sexual relations only to later admit to a relationship.

“It's a shame, it's really a shame,” Trump said. “I've watched all my life politicians in New York, something gets brought up on them. I don't talk about my personal life. So what are you going to do? I don't talk about personal life.”

“They've taken nothing and made it a big monster,” Trump said in reference to the Lewinsky scandal. “I mean they've made Watergate out of really what should've been nothing.”

“I don't know if that's a good thing in terms of what Starr has done or a terrible thing, I think it's a terrible thing, actually,” Trump added, presumably referring to the former Whitewater independent counsel who expanded his investigation into the Lewinsky affair.

As far as his personal opinion of Clinton, Trump gave Clinton a strong rating.

“I think he's terrific. I think the guy's terrific. I just hate the way he tried to get out of this mess,” Trump said.

“In terms of myself, I love him as a president because business has been great, the economy's been booming. We have to give him credit,” he said.
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Is he going to sneak them into the audience?! (Jerry, Jerry!!) My God, what a disaster...
He did. Or not snuck them in.
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I've got my popcorn and Mr. Pibb ready!
Drinks and wings! It ain't exactly Sunday Night Football....
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Old 10-09-16, 08:03 PM   #82
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Last time I watched a reality show was the first episode of Jersey Shore.
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Old 10-09-16, 08:05 PM   #83
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Yup, pausing my annual Horror Challenge to watch what could also be a horror show here, popcorn at hand.

I don't even have a dog in this fight, being Canadian, but damn if this isn't riveting reality tv.
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Old 10-09-16, 08:06 PM   #84
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No handshakes from them this time to begin.
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Old 10-09-16, 08:10 PM   #85
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Ha! Probably not a good idea to state right off the bat you're shocked that you're a politician, Donald, and then go on to ignore the topic of the first question posed.

ANNNNNNDDDDD the SNIFF is back!!!
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Damn, Cooper went for the jugular.
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Holy shit.
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Bleh. Stop it with the hot mic tape. You look stupid bringing it up.
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Old 10-09-16, 08:12 PM   #89
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What a trainwreck. Trump rambled and rambled and rambled. What the fuck was that? I'm going to kill ISIS. WTF?
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Wowsa. Nice answer there Donald.
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Old 10-09-16, 08:13 PM   #91
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Wowsa. Nice answer there Donald.
The one where he went to ISIS or the one where he avoided the question with talking about bringing wealth to the US?
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Trump strategy: Spend 10 seconds on the answer, then recite talking points.
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Hillary has this in the bag.
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I'm going to kill ISIS.
That concept is so silly. In a nutshell, you bomb ISIS, and accept all of the civilian deaths that come with it, and you have 'the next ISIS' that's much larger. Obama has done an excellent job at passively suppressing ISIS, as to not escalate the problem.

Also: Shut up shut up shut up Clinton. Don't cut down Trump. You're making me like you less.
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Damn, they got him on check. Then he whines. Don't I get to answer?
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He is sniffing like crazy again
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Noooo. Shut up about the hot mic tape. WTF?
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I thought Clinton's response was great.
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Sniffffff

Here comes the Bill stuff.
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Damn, they got him on check. Then he whines. Don't I get to answer?
Does feel like everybody is stacking this deck against him, but kinda' saw that coming.

Waiting for him to break out his "Clinton abuse" card...

...oh, right when I was typing the above there it is!
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