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Old 07-25-16, 11:16 AM   #126
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Japan does not have an islamic terrorism problem.
Maybe because they mind their own business. They do have a giant monster problem though.
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Old 07-25-16, 05:01 PM   #127
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Japan may not be so safe after all:

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Japan knife attack leaves 19 dead

The Kyodo news agency is reporting that 19 people are dead and dozens injured following a knife attack in Sagamihara, outside Tokyo.

A knife-wielding man attacked a facility for the disabled in the middle of the night and then turned himself in, police said.

Japanese media said staff called police at 2.30 a.m. local time with reports of a man armed with a knife on the grounds of
the Tsukui Yamayuri Garden facility.

The suspect is reportedly a former employee of the facility.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/japan-d...tack-1.3694642

Highly unlikely that this any kind of terrorist attack, but what the fuck is happening in the world? And killing disabled people in their sleep, that is so fucked up!
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Old 07-25-16, 05:35 PM   #128
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Old 07-25-16, 06:26 PM   #129
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Yes, I've read several stories regarding this phenomenon. So many young people over there just give up, or don't even bother trying to be involved in normal relationships, they're satisfied with their computers and cell phones. Many even give up on more than that, where they just have part time jobs or no jobs at all and live with their parents (adult children living with their parents isn't a stigma in Japan, it's very common, although it isn't supposed to be like what's happening over there now). Very disturbing trend, and it's becoming more widespread.
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Japan is becoming the technological dystopia that so many anime titles predicted.
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Yes, I've read several stories regarding this phenomenon. So many young people over there just give up, or don't even bother trying to be involved in normal relationships, they're satisfied with their computers and cell phones. Many even give up on more than that, where they just have part time jobs or no jobs at all and live with their parents (adult children living with their parents isn't a stigma in Japan, it's very common, although it isn't supposed to be like what's happening over there now). Very disturbing trend, and it's becoming more widespread.
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Japan may not be so safe after all:



http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/japan-d...tack-1.3694642

Highly unlikely that this any kind of terrorist attack, but what the fuck is happening in the world? And killing disabled people in their sleep, that is so fucked up!
It was apparently a disgruntled former employee that got fired and snapped.
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Old 07-25-16, 09:48 PM   #133
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It was apparently a disgruntled former employee that got fired and snapped.
Yeah, when I read "former employee", that's the first thing I thought of. Damn.
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Another day, another event .. this time at a church in Normandy, France. Priest was killed, one of the hostages is in critical condition. The two attackers were killed by police when they exited the church.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/26/europe...age/index.html
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In reports I've read it sounds like the priest was beheaded in his church.
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In reports I've read it sounds like the priest was beheaded in his church.
I've read that as well. ISIS has claimed responsibility.
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In reports I've read it sounds like the priest was beheaded in his church.
I read that they initially slit his throat (which God willing, he died soon after) and then proceeded to try and behead him, which they weren't able to finish. Horrific story...I have watched some of these videos...you can't unsee them... they are seared into my head.. the audio is almost the worst part. The gurgling and wheezing of a sliced open throat is so disgusting...
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Old 07-27-16, 10:33 AM   #138
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.I have watched some of these videos...you can't unsee them... they are seared into my head..
Jesus, why have you watched more than one then?? I feel that I can go through life without needing to see any of these videos, thank you very much.
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Old 08-06-16, 11:58 AM   #139
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14 people killed by terrorists and 15 more injured at a market in northeastern India.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/05/asia/attackers-kill-12-at-indian-market/index.html

Probably, we won't hear about it much since we don't care when brown people get killed by terrorists, and it doesn't fit the narrative. There's also a big difference between the perpetrators of this attack and the ones in Nice, Paris, and so on (this was not ISIS).
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14 people killed by terrorists and 15 more injured at a market in northeastern India.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/05/asia/a...ket/index.html

Probably, we won't hear about it much since we don't care when brown people get killed by terrorists, and it doesn't fit the narrative. There's also a big difference between the perpetrators of this attack and the ones in Nice, Paris, and so on (this was not ISIS).
Yes, this goes right up there as far as global terrorist concerns. Sure, they've only got 1500 members NOW, but surely that number will swell as Christians from around the world respond to the religious call-to-arms and travel from all corners of the world to fight with them.

Meanwhile, we have more good evidence to support the Obama administration's claim that ISIS is on the ropes:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isi...ldwide-n621866
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Meanwhile, in the last week:

American tourist stabbed to death in and others injured in a stabbing spree in London by Muslim teenager:
D.C. Transit cop arrested for supporting ISIS:

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A Washington, D.C., Metro Transit police officer who was a convert to Islam and once dressed up as Jihadi John for Halloween was charged on Wednesday with trying to provide material support to ISIS — the first time a law enforcement officer has been charged with an ISIS-related crime.

A baggage search by Customs and Border Protection on one of Young’s outbound trips revealed he had traveled with body armor, a Kevlar helmet, and “several other military-style items,” according to the criminal complaint.

Young is also alleged to have been in possession of a large cache of firearms, including numerous rifles and handguns at his home...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/03...ding-isis.html
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A MAN shouting “Allahu Akbar” has attacked and wounded two police officers with a machete in Belgium this afternoon.

A man approached the male and female officer outside a police station in the city of Charleroi, south of Brussels, and set upon them with the blade.

He was then shot and wounded by a third officer nearby and taken into custody alive, but according to Belgian French TV station RTBF he has since died of his injuries.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...rleroi-machete
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The point of my posting about the attack in India isn't to create some sort of equivalency between radical Christians and radical Muslims. Obviously, one is a bigger threat than the other.

However, there is nothing inherent in Christianity that led to that massacre. Nobody would think to condemn Christianity on the basis of the NDFB. Yet you consistently paint Islam as inherently and inexorably responsible for the crimes of ISIS and similar groups, to the point where you are now lumping the London stabbing into the "Islamic Terrorist" thread based solely on the fact that the perpetrator was Muslim -- notwithstanding the fact that authorities have said there is no evidence of radicalization or religious motivation.

And, BTW, NDFB only has around 1500 members, as you say, but 1500 radicals intent on causing mass casualties can do a lot of harm. A single radical intent on causing mass casualties can do a lot of harm!
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For me personally, when the terrorists are saying they are doing it in the name of Islam, shouting "God is great!" as they are carrying out the act - I take them at their word.
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For me personally, when the terrorists are saying they are doing it in the name of Islam, shouting "God is great!" as they are carrying out the act - I take them at their word.
"Allahu akbar" is an expression similar to "Thank God!" It is not said only when one is doing something in the name if Islam. I used to work with many Muslims who used that phrase often, and as far as I knew, they were not terrorists committing terrorist acts.
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The point of my posting about the attack in India isn't to create some sort of equivalency between radical Christians and radical Muslims. Obviously, one is a bigger threat than the other.

However, there is nothing inherent in Christianity that led to that massacre. Nobody would think to condemn Christianity on the basis of the NDFB. Yet you consistently paint Islam as inherently and inexorably responsible for the crimes of ISIS and similar groups...
And to me, this is just you grasping at straws and engaging in pretzel-twisting arguments to try to prop up your belief in cultural relativism. You might just as well have said, in 1939, "why are people singling out Nazi Germany for antisemitism? Look, here are example of antisemitism right here in America [and you would indeed be able to provide real examples]. Why don't people talk about how the American system of government encourages antisemitism? Why all the focus on Germany?"

And again, are you arguing that the NDFB is primarily a religious group? Is their membership limited to Christians? Is their stated goal to implement Christian law over the land? It's like saying the IRA is comparable to ISIS, because its members are Christian. It's nonsense.



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... to the point where you are now lumping the London stabbing into the "Islamic Terrorist" thread based solely on the fact that the perpetrator was Muslim -- notwithstanding the fact that authorities have said there is no evidence of radicalization or religious motivation.
Yes, like the authorities that handled all the reports of hundreds (thousands?) of girls being raped and trafficked by Muslim gangs in Rotherham? Like the authorities and media that did their best to cover up the hundreds of sexual assaults of German women on New Years? The authorities and political establishment are doing their best to cover up the Islamic nature of the crimes, because they know they're teetering on mass social unrest if this gets reported openly. So when something like this happens, before they even have time to investigate it, they say "we don't know exactly what happened, but the one thing we're sure of is that this wasn't terrorism and Islam is a religion of peace!" And well-meaning, naive folks like you, who so desperately want to believe it, don't look any further into it. Because when you do look into, you generally don't like what you find:

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"...Police raided his home in Tooting, south London, on Thursday after he was arrested on suspicion of murder.

Neighbours speaking to the Daily Mail said Bulhan’s family were Muslim, describing his mother as a “kind and friendly” woman who lived with her two sons.

Bulhan attended Graveney School in Tooting and recently completed his first year studying for a B-Tech in IT at South Thames College in Morden.

Former classmates told the Evening Standard he had been a “teacher’s pet” who was occasionally bullied.

A profile on a book rating website in Bulhan’s name shows an interest in Islamic theology, listing a biography of the Prophet Mohamed and a book of Quran verses and hadiths as recent reads..."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7172476.html
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Scotland Yard believe Zakaria Bulhan, 19, a Norwegian national of Somali origin who moved to the UK in 2002, was not ‘motivated by terrorism’ but its officers are trawling his possessions for extremist material.

But neighbour Parmjit Singh, a BBC radio DJ known as ‘DJ Precious’ on the Asian network, said he had known ‘impressionable’ Bulhan for seven years, adding: ‘His mental health problems are a scapegoat.’

The 36-year-old said: ‘They said he had mental health issues but that was not the boy I knew.

‘The news of his mental illness is completely new, we never heard that. Honestly, I think his mental health problems are a scapegoat.’

Asked what he thought motivated the attack, Parmjit said: ‘I think peer pressure, hanging around with gangs. He wasn’t working, he was hanging around with Somalian boys and I think they had possible links to serious ISIS people – not directly, but they see all this stuff and are inspired by it.

‘Why would he attack an American woman tourist in a random attack? I think boys have put pressure on him to go there and do something. He was very impressionable growing up’. …"
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Actually, Allahu Ackbar doesn't translate to "God is great," it translates to "God (Allah) is greater."
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Attack on Swiss train leaves 2 dead, 3 in critical condition. Authorities say there are no indications it's terrorism. They're not releasing the name of the attacker. We'll see.

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Man who stabbed passengers and set fire among the dead

The Associated Press Posted: Aug 14, 2016 6:52 AM ET Last Updated: Aug 14, 2016 11:38 AM ET


The man who attacked passengers on a crowded Swiss train with a knife and burning liquid died of his wounds Sunday, as did one of his victims, a 34-year-old woman, Swiss police said. Three others remain hospitalized with serious wounds.

Police are still searching for a motive but said there's no indication the suspect, identified only as a 27-year-old Swiss man from a neighboring region, had ties to extremist groups.

A 43-year-old woman, a 6-year-old girl and 17-year-old girl remained hospitalized Sunday with serious injuries, St. Gallen canton (state) police spokesman Hans-Peter Kruesi told The Associated Press. A 17-year-old youth and 50-year-old man wounded in the attack have been treated and released, he said.

Kruesi said all the victims lived in the St. Gallen canton.

Swiss police searched the suspect's home after the Saturday afternoon attack on the train as it neared the station in Salez, close to the Liechtenstein border. Kruesi would not comment on what evidence was seized at the home, but said "so far there are no indications this was a terrorist or politically motivated crime."

Police were not able to question the suspect before he died, Kruesi said, adding that the man had no criminal record and was not previously known to police.

According to a video of the attack evaluated by police, the assailant acted alone, attacking passengers on the train between Buchs and Sennwald with a knife and then burning liquid, which is now being analyzed by a police forensics team.

The train driver was being credited with quick thinking, continuing into the Salez station before stopping, a move that allowed police and rescue crews to get on board easier.

Five passengers on the train were wounded in the attack and a sixth person on the train platform, the 50-year-old man, was wounded as he pulled the burning suspect off the train, police said. The 50-year-old was treated for smoke inhalation and burns, Kruesi said.

The Swiss train attack again illustrates how difficult it is for authorities to protect the continent's labyrinthine transport system, particularly against individuals wielding unsophisticated weapons.

Last month in neighboring Germany, a 17-year-old refugee from Afghanistan used an ax and a knife to wound four tourists on a train, and stabbed a woman as he fled. The attacker was shot and killed by police. All his victims survived.

In May at a train station in the German state of Bavaria, a 27-year-old German man who had been in psychiatric care stabbed commuters, killing one and wounding three others before being apprehended by police.

Last year a heavily armed gunman opened fire on a high-speed Amsterdam to Paris train but was overpowered by two young American soldiers and their companion.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/swiss-t...tack-1.3720389
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Attack on Swiss train leaves 2 dead, 3 in critical condition. Authorities say there are no indications it's terrorism. They're not releasing the name of the attacker. We'll see.
Until we know better, why is this story in the Islamic Terrorist Attack thread?
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Because the name always turns out to be something wonky, like a comedian's exaggeration of a terrorist name, and the authorities say, "Not terrorism." Like at UCLA.
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Until we know better, why is this story in the Islamic Terrorist Attack thread?
Because lack of information is proof that Muslims did it!

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Because the name always turns out to be something wonky, like a comedian's exaggeration of a terrorist name, and the authorities say, "Not terrorism." Like at UCLA.
Please define your terms. What is a "wonky" name, and what is a "terrorist name"?

Sean Trinity O'Hara <-- totally not a terrorist name amirite?
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