Release List Reviews Shop Join News DVD Giveaways Video Games Advertise
DVD Reviews | Theatrical Reviews | Price Search Buy Stuff Here
DVD Talk
DVD Reviews DVD Talk Headlines HD Reviews


Add to My Yahoo! - RSS 2.0 - RSS 2.0 - DVD Talk Podcast RSS -


Go Back   DVD Talk Forum > General Discussions > Other Talk > Religion, Politics and World Events

Religion, Politics and World Events They make great dinner conversation, don't you think? plus Political Film

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-12-17, 05:14 PM   #3526
DVD Talk Legend
 
stingermck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: NC
Posts: 12,668
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....


__________________
"We wouldn't have to "regress" so much if it wasn't for that weird period in comics history when EVERYTHING in comics had to be awful and bleak. Characters died, became killers, were crippled and had lots of pouches and belts on their costumes, and we, this generation of creators, represent the undoing of that." - Ethan Van Sciver.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 05:16 PM   #3527
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Rosemount, MN
Posts: 24,808
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

^ Just came here to post that. The President of the United States can't bring himself to denounce neo-Nazis who just killed an American.

I can only assume his supporters are loving his response.
__________________
Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow. - Men in Black

Last edited by Draven; 08-12-17 at 05:28 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 05:21 PM   #3528
DVD Talk Hero
 
Josh-da-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The Bible Belt
Posts: 26,793
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Fucking revolting.

And unsurprising.
__________________
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."

-- Lucius Annaeus Seneca
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 05:37 PM   #3529
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Cellar Door's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,588
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Reporters really need to keep hammering Trump and also his spokespeople with that question: Will you denounce white nationalists/supremacists who support you?
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 05:42 PM   #3530
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Rex Power Colt-Robot Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,019
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

TBF Trump did denounce the KKK and Duke back last march

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politi...kkk/index.html
__________________
I was a fan of the Bengals through the 90's. I've looked the devil in the eye and laughed.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 05:54 PM   #3531
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Formerly known as Groucho AND Bandoman/Death Moans, Iowa
Posts: 15,351
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rex Power Colt-Robot Man View Post
TBF Trump did denounce the KKK and Duke back last march

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politi...kkk/index.html
Awesome. And today?
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 05:56 PM   #3532
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,863
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

So I wasn't really caught up with what's going on with this "Unite The Right" Rally.

By the name, I thought it was going to be alt-righters and conservatives talking about free speech, complaining about antifas, "white privilege"/"POC can't be racist", language, safe spaces, 2nd amendment rights, etc.

Then I looked this up for ease.

So they're not even trying to make it look like it's just about free speech, or the constitution, or gun rights.
They're protesting the removal of statue honoring Confederate general Robert Lee.

Apparently the statue was erected in the first place to memorialize "The Lost Cause." Here's a Slate article about it and the history of the statue.

This is crazy.
Richard Spencer, the guy who said "Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory" and was defending audience members' Nazi salutes, leads a torch lit protest, I'm assuming to evoke Nazi and KKK torch marches, because they don't want the statue of a traitor to the United States removed.

I was watching a YouTube video interview of Spencer, by a young, bi-racial millennial who criticizes some liberal view points. I watched a few of her early videos and thought she made some good points, and then I saw her softball interview with Spencer and I was like, WTF? She goes in on liberals/progressives who she believes have prejudiced/racist arguments/beliefs, but then plays nice with Richard Spencer.
Then you have/had people like that dude that got fired from Breitbart helped popularize and embolden these groups.

Useful idiots and enablers.

Last edited by brayzie; 08-12-17 at 06:01 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 05:57 PM   #3533
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 9,266
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Has the identity and motivation of the driver been confirmed/revealed?
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:06 PM   #3534
DVD Talk Legend
 
grundle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 12,656
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artman View Post
Has the identity and motivation of the driver been confirmed/revealed?
No.

Some people have traced the license plate to a certain person, but that person may not have been the driver. The car could have been stolen. The license plate could have been stolen. The car may have been sold to a new owner.

Hopefully, the media will report the name of the actual driver who was arrested.

Even then, some people have speculated that the driver was scared and trying to get away, and did not deliberately hurt anyone.

And there were multiple cars, where one car hit another, and may have pushed that car into the crowd.

Lots of speculation, but not much in the way of actual facts.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:09 PM   #3535
DVD Talk Legend
 
grundle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 12,656
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler View Post

Yes, the picture hurts.

But the picture also shows who the real hero is.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:10 PM   #3536
DVD Talk Legend
 
grundle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 12,656
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by slop101 View Post
I'm pretty sure that if the Nazis of the 1930s and 1940s had met the KKK people from the same time period, they probably would have been enemies, not allies.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:12 PM   #3537
Time Lord
 
Supermallet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Termite Terrace
Posts: 52,879
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by grundle View Post
I'm pretty sure that if the Nazis of the 1930s and 1940s had met the KKK people from the same time period, they probably would have been enemies, not allies.
Uh, what? And also, what difference does that make to what's going on right now?
__________________
Never stop punching fascists.
Stop employing thugs and murderers: Abolish police, abolish the military.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:15 PM   #3538
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Formerly known as Groucho AND Bandoman/Death Moans, Iowa
Posts: 15,351
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by grundle View Post
Yes, the picture hurts.

But the picture also shows who the real hero is.
The picture also shows who the real villains are.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:28 PM   #3539
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,863
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermallet View Post
Uh, what? And also, what difference does that make to what's going on right now?
I think he's just trying to point out that, even though they're both racist, they shouldn't be marching side by side now, because back then it was the US vs Nazi Germany. The KKK back then probably had allegiance to the US.

Now though, you see white supremacists cheering on Putin and Russia.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:43 PM   #3540
DVD Talk Legend
 
grundle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 12,656
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

The driver who was arrested has been identified as

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...otest-violence

"... a skinny white guy with a straggly beard..."
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:44 PM   #3541
DVD Talk Legend
 
DaveyJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 17,160
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....



__________________
PSN: DaveyJoeG|Steam: DaveyJoe

Updated! My 2016 October Horror Movie Challenge compilation video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2zMlgp-OTM&t
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:44 PM   #3542
DVD Talk Legend
 
grundle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 12,656
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Supermallet View Post
Uh, what? And also, what difference does that make to what's going on right now?
It's just that their protest is historically inaccurate.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:49 PM   #3543
DVD Talk Legend
 
grundle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 12,656
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveyJoe View Post
In this picture, what I see is a bunch of people standing in the street blocking traffic.

I've said before that people should do their protesting on the sidewalk, not in the street.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:55 PM   #3544
Moderator
 
Groucho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 69,490
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rex Power Colt-Robot Man View Post
TBF Trump did denounce the KKK and Duke back last march

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politi...kkk/index.html
Actions speak louder than words, and he chose to surround himself with known white nationalists and racists in the White House. That, plus his comments today, make it clear where his allegiances are.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:57 PM   #3545
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Rosemount, MN
Posts: 24,808
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by grundle View Post
In this picture, what I see is a bunch of people standing in the street blocking traffic.

I've said before that people should do their protesting on the sidewalk, not in the street.
Have you watched the video? If people are protesting in the streets, is it acceptable to accelerate into them and kill them?
__________________
Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow. - Men in Black
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:58 PM   #3546
Time Lord
 
Supermallet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Termite Terrace
Posts: 52,879
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by grundle View Post
It's just that their protest is historically inaccurate.
Okay, how is that at all relevant?

Quote:
Originally Posted by grundle View Post
In this picture, what I see is a bunch of people standing in the street blocking traffic.

I've said before that people should do their protesting on the sidewalk, not in the street.
Are you seriously blaming protestors for being run over by a car? Why not the person who chose to run over innocent people with his car?
__________________
Never stop punching fascists.
Stop employing thugs and murderers: Abolish police, abolish the military.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 06:58 PM   #3547
DVD Talk Legend
 
cungar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 17,444
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

This thread today has really made me glad I utilize the block feature on this forum.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 07:03 PM   #3548
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
PatD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,399
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

This might sound stupid: but, is this riot still going on or did it finally disperse and we're all talking about the aftermath?
__________________
STREAMING: All the fun of paying the fiddler and then dancing to the tune of HIS choice.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 07:03 PM   #3549
DVD Talk Legend
 
Bacon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: on somone's ignore list
Posts: 20,452
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by grundle View Post
In this picture, what I see is a bunch of people standing in the street blocking traffic.

I've said before that people should do their protesting on the sidewalk, not in the street.
Are you blind?
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-17, 07:09 PM   #3550
DVD Talk Legend
 
grundle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 12,656
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven View Post
Have you watched the video? If people are protesting in the streets, is it acceptable to accelerate into them and kill them?
Yes, I watched both videos in post 3483.

No, it is not acceptable for a driver to accelerate into and kill people who are protesting in the street.

But I still suggest that people do their protesting on the sidewalk instead of in the street.
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:15 PM.


Copyright 2011 DVDTalk.com All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0