Release List Reviews Shop Join News DVD Giveaways Video Games Advertise
DVD Reviews | Theatrical Reviews | Price Search Buy Stuff Here
DVD Talk
DVD Reviews DVD Talk Headlines HD Reviews


Add to My Yahoo! - RSS 2.0 - RSS 2.0 - DVD Talk Podcast RSS -


Go Back   DVD Talk Forum > General Discussions > Other Talk > Religion, Politics and World Events

Religion, Politics and World Events They make great dinner conversation, don't you think? plus Political Film

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-03-16, 06:42 PM   #2501
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,419
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven View Post
Cops should shoot them less often too.
They would, if potential criminals were not posing a threat to them, and obeying orders.

But it seems like law enforcement has heard the message.

Side effect:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...r-fbi-increase
Quote:
Murders up 10.8% in biggest percentage increase since 1971, FBI data shows Rising violence in 2015 driven by increase in murders of black men and gun crime.
...
At least 900 more black men were killed in 2015 than in 2014, according to FBI data.
...
The FBI director, James Comey, has repeatedly drawn a connection between increasing violence and “a change in how the police are doing their work” due to the continuing nationwide protests over police killings of black citizens.

“In today’s YouTube world, are officers reluctant to get out of their cars and do the work that controls violent crime?” he asked in 2015, describing “a chill wind that has blown through law enforcement over the last year”.

In May, he suggested the increasing violence could be related to “marginal pullbacks by lots and lots of police officers”, and said that police leaders across the country had seen a change in how their officers do their jobs.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-16, 06:48 PM   #2502
DVD Talk Hero
 
DVD Polizei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 49,654
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven View Post
Cops should shoot them less often too.
That's like saying Blacks should commit less crime.

You and I know that's not the issue in BOTH cases.

It's about responsibility and making sure everyone receives a proper legal process rather than using the media to fuel violence, regardless of what side of the fence you're on.
__________________
Blu-ray Titles: ~1,050 | HD DVD Titles: ~323

"I don't sell airplane parts. I've never sold airplane parts."
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 07:11 AM   #2503
DVD Talk Hero
 
inri222's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 36,306
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

What a wonderful world it is...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ichelle-obama/

‘Poor Gorilla’: Teacher’s aide fired for racist Facebook posts about Michelle Obama

__________________
The reason there will be no change is because the people who stand to lose from change have all the power. And the people who stand to gain from change have none of the power.

- Machiavelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 08:14 AM   #2504
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 11,470
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

And she's teaching peoples children. She's the disgrace.

And is it just me but the irony in a teacher complaining about someone else's vacations?
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 09:33 AM   #2505
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
joeblow69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Palm Springs
Posts: 6,122
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Well that hairdo is horrifying. Is that photoshopped?
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 09:40 AM   #2506
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 11,480
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

"How's she going to pay for her vacations?" Yeah, ex-Presidents and their wives seldom have any form of income.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 01:27 PM   #2507
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
hdnmickey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 9,237
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

An example of how some players sit/kneel and others take action.

http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-sea...seattle-police
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 01:34 PM   #2508
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
EddieMoney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Paradise, USA
Posts: 9,439
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

How would anyone in a position such as this woman think she would not be fired for making such a post?

Or was it intentional? Hmmm...
__________________
"Go... go watch that inane new Kevin James comedy and drool into your Walmart mac and cheese." - TGM
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 01:36 PM   #2509
DVD Talk Hero
 
inri222's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 36,306
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by hdnmickey View Post
An example of how some players sit/kneel and others take action.

http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-sea...seattle-police
You mean like this from a month ago :

49ers to donate $1 million to charities that focus on racial issues cited by Colin Kaepernick

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la...nap-story.html

Disclaimer : I'm not from San Francisco or a football fan.
__________________
The reason there will be no change is because the people who stand to lose from change have all the power. And the people who stand to gain from change have none of the power.

- Machiavelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 02:07 PM   #2510
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Giantrobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: South Bay
Posts: 53,661
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by inri222 View Post
You mean like this from a month ago :

49ers to donate $1 million to charities that focus on racial issues cited by Colin Kaepernick

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la...nap-story.html

Disclaimer : I'm not from San Francisco or a football fan.
Yeah inri222 he doesn't get that the initial kneeling was a catalyst for other's ACTIONS and more awareness of the issue.
But we'll just pretend he's making a point....
__________________
XBOX Gamertag: Giantrobo
On my 4th 360 as of 3.26.10
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 02:15 PM   #2511
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
hdnmickey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 9,237
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by inri222 View Post
You mean like this from a month ago :

49ers to donate $1 million to charities that focus on racial issues cited by Colin Kaepernick

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la...nap-story.html

Disclaimer : I'm not from San Francisco or a football fan.
Yes, that too. Cool.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 05:06 PM   #2512
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,419
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by inri222 View Post
What a wonderful world it is...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ichelle-obama/

‘Poor Gorilla’: Teacher’s aide fired for racist Facebook posts about Michelle Obama


Does this mean that blacks who call Trump an Orangutan get fired too?
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 05:23 PM   #2513
DVD Talk Legend
 
Why So Blu?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 23,744
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by wearetheborg View Post
Does this mean that blacks who call Trump an Orangutan get fired too?
Can you stop being so fucking obtuse? I know it's hard but give a try. Is that what they teach you in STEM?

Nevermind that calling black folks "gorillas" has always been linked to racism.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 05:23 PM   #2514
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
joeblow69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Palm Springs
Posts: 6,122
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by wearetheborg View Post
Does this mean that blacks who call Trump an Orangutan get fired too?
If that is a serious question, please explain the racial undertones of calling Trump an orangutan.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 05:47 PM   #2515
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,419
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblow69 View Post
If that is a serious question, please explain the racial undertones of calling Trump an orangutan.
1.
A person is being compared to an animal based on physical similarity.

If you can't to this to one someone from one race, you should not be able to do this to people from other races either.

2.
There has been a recent trend of comparing presidents and presidential candidates to primates. Anyone remember Bush-monkey morphs?
Is it possible the post in question was in the same vein?


What I'm getting at is that there is a difference between
saying "John/Jane has property X" and "The race to which John/Jane belong has property X".


Not that I condone the post of this woman.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-16, 06:23 PM   #2516
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
joeblow69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Palm Springs
Posts: 6,122
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Oh, so it wasn't a serious question. Carry on.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-16, 05:57 AM   #2517
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
 
mspmms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Indianapolis,IN
Posts: 4,943
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by inri222 View Post
You mean like this from a month ago :

49ers to donate $1 million to charities that focus on racial issues cited by Colin Kaepernick

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la...nap-story.html

Disclaimer : I'm not from San Francisco or a football fan.
I think it is great that the 49ers are doing this but it may be too late for many viewers

#BoycottNFL online campaigns and fan outrage aimed at the National Anthem protests in the NFL have taken a toll in terms of viewership
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-16, 11:54 AM   #2518
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Giantrobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: South Bay
Posts: 53,661
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by mspmms View Post
I think it is great that the 49ers are doing this but it may be too late for many viewers

#BoycottNFL online campaigns and fan outrage aimed at the National Anthem protests in the NFL have taken a toll in terms of viewership
GOOD.


But then again, it's an election year and Trump is sucking up the air on TV and that may be the real reason ratings are shit. At least that what some Sports Talk Hosts think.
__________________
XBOX Gamertag: Giantrobo
On my 4th 360 as of 3.26.10
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-16, 02:59 AM   #2519
DVD Talk Legend
 
creekdipper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,227
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Timber View Post
And is it just me but the irony in a teacher complaining about someone else's vacations?
Not disagreeing with your other points, Timber, but if you're referring to "summer vacation," it's worth noting that teachers don't get paid for that time off.

(Unless they have deferred payments to spread their salary out over 12 months, but the overall salary remains the same regardless).

That's why many teachers take summer jobs in order to make ends meet. Of course, those who don't have to do so do get a lot of unpaid days off, but so do people whose jobs only require them to be on duty four days a week or who have seasonal jobs.

Just FYI since a lot of people still think that teachers get paid for months when kids aren't in school. That's only true of administrators who work during summer months, summer school teachers, etc.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-16, 10:11 AM   #2520
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 11,470
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

They get paid a salary. They choose how that salary is broken down so to say they don't get paid for those 2 months is not correct IMO. So yes they can choose to get a second job over the summer but it's additional money on top of their salary. Their benefits still extend through those summer months, it's not like they get "laid off" for 2 months every year.

You can't compare a teacher to a seasonal job. People that work seasonal jobs are unemployed when they are off season. They can not get pay differed into the time when they are not working.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-16, 12:30 PM   #2521
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Giantrobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: South Bay
Posts: 53,661
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Exactly...

__________________
XBOX Gamertag: Giantrobo
On my 4th 360 as of 3.26.10
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-16, 06:35 PM   #2522
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,419
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Giantrobo View Post
Exactly...

Lives didn't matter back then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...0.2C000_deaths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persia...e_of_1917-1918
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines
http://www.oddee.com/item_90608.aspx

BLM/ALM exist in the relative security and peace of the modern western world. A campaign for the perceived right to be aggressive to law enforcement without fear of a beat down.
An alien concept, still, for billions living in Asia/Middle East/Africa.

Last edited by wearetheborg; 10-06-16 at 06:48 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-16, 07:13 PM   #2523
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 11,480
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Also, none of the people who say "All Lives Matter" were alive back then.

There's never been a problem that was solved by a T-shirt slogan. When are people going to stop trying?
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-16, 07:14 PM   #2524
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,419
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/02/teenag...-fire-6166614/

Quote:
An 18-year-old man killed a 91-year-old Second World War veteran by beating him, then dousing him with gasoline and setting him on fire.
Imagine the shitstorm had the races been reversed.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-16, 07:15 PM   #2525
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 11,480
Re: We are a nation of cowards for not discussing race issues....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Giantrobo View Post


But then again, it's an election year and Trump is sucking up the air on TV and that may be the real reason ratings are shit. At least that what some Sports Talk Hosts think.
If viewership of the NFL is down, I doubt the reason is the election. Are people flipping the channel and preferring to watch 3 hours of election coverage instead of a football game?
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:15 PM.


Copyright 2011 DVDTalk.com All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0